Greg Oden suffers setback

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If this is Oden's 4th season ending knee injury, why is anyone talking about what he'll do after this season? These last two were not even sustained while he was playing basketball, the 2nd when he was simply jumping into the air, and no one knows where the 1st game from.
There is obviously something wrong with his body.

If he gets injured doing nothing, how do you expect him to survive a basketball season? Greg Oden is not "setback" he's done. Forget about him.
 
Sinobas said:
If this is Oden's 4th season ending knee injury, why is anyone talking about what he'll do after this season? These last two were not even sustained while he was playing basketball, the 2nd when he was simply jumping into the air, and no one knows where the 1st game from.
There is obviously something wrong with his body.

If he gets injured doing nothing, how do you expect him to survive a basketball season? Greg Oden is not "setback" he's done. Forget about him.
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That's how I've felt for a while now.
 
Denny Crane said:
If they have to rescind their QO, Oden becomes a UFA and he can sign with any team. At least that's what happened with Carlos Boozer in Cleveland. They had a handshake deal to have him re-sign for 6 years and he bolted.
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They don't have to rescind the QO; GO isn't eligible to sign it. From what I understand (assuming this part of the CBA remains unchanged), we get the benefit of having the right of first refusal next year. As I said before, this year is like a QO mulligan.
 
maxiep, can you point me to where you're seeing that from? Interesting tidbit, thanks.
 
RR7 said:
maxiep, can you point me to where you're seeing that from? Interesting tidbit, thanks.
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Don't give me credit; it's all Storyteller. Here's what he posted:

From the previous CBA, Article XI:



"A player who knows that he has a physical disability that would render him physically unable to perform the playing services required under a Player Contract the following Season may not validly accept a Qualifying Offer received under this Section 4 or Section 5 below, unless the ROFR Team consents after disclosure of such physical disability. Notwithstanding the immediately preceding sentence, a player who knows that he has a physical disability that would render him physically unable to perform the playing services required under a Player Contract the following Season remains subject to the ROFR Team’s Right of First Refusal."


So Oden might not be allowed to accept the Qualifying Offer but Portland would not have to give up their right of first refusal.
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thanks. I'm curious though, it sounds like that could also be written to where, you have the ROFR THIS season, or the season that player has the injury, but you ar enot required to offer the QO.
 
Maxiep, great find. It'll be very interesting to hear if we get confirmation from the team that Greg will be a RFA next offseason.
 
Ummm ... Just found out about all this stuff.

/nowords
 
I was away from my computer all afternoon, and I come back to this? And LaMarcus' heart problem?

Being a Portland Trail Blazers fan is just so fucking surreal. There is nothing else like it. Seriously, who needs drugs? Such a blessing.

Maybe we'll be like the Spurs. Our HOF center is injured. Get another HOFer in the draft. Our HOF center comes back healthy. Championships ensue. Management lauded as geniuses for the next decade. It could happen, right? Sure it could. Just not to us.

:cheers:
 
BBert said:
Maybe we'll be like the Spurs. Our HOF center is injured. Get another HOFer in the draft. Our HOF center comes back healthy. Championships ensue. Management lauded as geniuses for the next decade. It could happen, right? Sure it could. Just not to us.
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Sure it could. It's about to (roughly) happen to the Indianapolis Colts. Their first-ballot Hall of Fame quarterback goes on the shelf and they're going to be in position to draft what's considered the best quarterback prospect since Peyton Manning.

But yes, it doesn't happen to the Blazers. Shame. I thought in 2007 that the franchise had finally caught the break they'd been waiting for, for around three decades.
 
maxiep said:
They don't have to rescind the QO; GO isn't eligible to sign it. From what I understand (assuming this part of the CBA remains unchanged), we get the benefit of having the right of first refusal next year. As I said before, this year is like a QO mulligan.
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I hope you are right. Why are they being so secretive about Greg's "Setback"? Buchanon wouldn't comment on the Nature of Greg's injury, how it may have occurred, if it could be rehabbed, etc. He also wouldn't comment on the specifics of the restructured deal. What's to gain by being secretive about the whole thing?
 
On 'Talkin Ball', someone heard the setback is a gimpy non-weight bearing ligament. So, I guess that means surgery to replace it. I could see that sidelining him until the Summer. Like all his injuries....it doesn't close the book, but it's another domino falling.
 
Kaydow said:
I hope you are right. Why are they being so secretive about Greg's "Setback"? Buchanon wouldn't comment on the Nature of Greg's injury, how it may have occurred, if it could be rehabbed, etc. He also wouldn't comment on the specifics of the restructured deal. What's to gain by being secretive about the whole thing?
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He's possibly handcuffed by HIPAA.
 
Roy is 27. Aldridge is 26. Oden is 23. They should all still be developing, still be reaching their peak years.

Now Roy is gone. Oden may have played his last game as a Blazer. Aldridge’s heart has raised concern again.

If it wasn’t for bad luck, this team would have no luck at all.
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LINK -- Kerry Eggers​
 
Out of sight, out of mind...

Could do wonders for this fanbases' psyche.

Though, that depends on the roster moves they make.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Out of sight, out of mind...

Could do wonders for this fanbases' psyche.

Though, that depends on the roster moves they make.
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It goes beyond the fans' psyches. This team can't move forward as long as they use Oden and Roy as a built in excuse for failure. If the team only won 20 games, Nate would still be bullet-proof, because it wasn't *his* fault Roy and Oden missed so much time, etc.

Nobody said coming up with a "plan B" was going to be easy....but waiting to get started won't make it any easier. The team almost lost the fanbase once - they won't keep them with hoplessness and inertia. They need to show that they are making an honest effort to climb out of this pit.

Of course, that assumes Allen still cares about the team and/or keeping the team in Portland. :smiley-grom:
 
It is hard to not be glooming today. Everything seems like its ending for this team and since this undisclosed setback is GO my optimism is at an all time low. I'm trying to wait to hear more specifics before i'm jumping on the "GO is gonna miss the season again, goodbye the next 8 years while we slide threw mediocrity then try and rebuild when we realize were a one and done team."
 
"suffers" setback

G.O. didn't suffer anything, whatever is going on with his ligaments is what it is.

I think this fits more along the lines of not healing properly vs. getting injured again. I find some solace in this. And like you said, we haven't gotten any specifics yet.

But yea what a day, will live in Infamy! It's gotta be the super large lunar eclipse
 
Drttimmy said:
On 'Talkin Ball', someone heard the setback is a gimpy non-weight bearing ligament. So, I guess that means surgery to replace it. I could see that sidelining him until the Summer. Like all his injuries....it doesn't close the book, but it's another domino falling.
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If he needed surgery it would make no sense that the doctor who did the MRI cleared him for non-contact basketball practice...

This could be something like a grade 2 MCL sprain that Matt Forte just had. That is a tear in the ligament, but not quite a grade 3 (complete) tear.
 
Sinobas said:
If this is Oden's 4th season ending knee injury, why is anyone talking about what he'll do after this season? These last two were not even sustained while he was playing basketball, the 2nd when he was simply jumping into the air, and no one knows where the 1st game from.
There is obviously something wrong with his body.

If he gets injured doing nothing, how do you expect him to survive a basketball season? Greg Oden is not "setback" he's done. Forget about him.
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This. It's over. I wish he'd retire so that mentally, we could move on. I'm no longer worried about Oden "dominating" for another team. It's not gonna happen. Nothing personal, Greg, but it's time to walk away.
 
ant said:
And really, if he was returning to action in Feb, he's only missing 3-4 months. This isn't the train wreck folks want it to be.
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YES it IS. He hasn't played a game since 2009! In three weeks, it's 2012. We have waited and waited. Joel has recovered from two injuries, Elliott Williams has recovered from two knee surgeries, and then there was a lockout, giving Oden MORE time to rest, and after all that, he can't play til February and now he can't even play then??? Even IF he DOES play in Fall 2012, how good will he even be? His career averages are 9/7. Even though he was starting to look better, he still lacked the coordination to stay out of foul trouble. It would take him a year or TWO to get to a place where he can dominate this league and by THEN, chances are he'll be HURT again! This is a guy who needs MF surgery because he gets hurt getting off his couch! It. Is. Over. Cut him. Let Miami have him. It is not fair to us fans to keep him around and dangle false hopes in front our faces year after year. It's mean.
 
maxiep said:
According to Storyteller, that's the rule from the previous CBA. I don't doubt that part was transferred to the new one.

Like I said, I think it's not terrible news.
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When your number 1 pick center misses almost THREE straight seasons, it's terrible news. Period.
 
Zybot said:
I prefer today to Game 7, WCF 2000. So, no.
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I disagree. On that Sunday in June, we were in the fucking Western Conference Finals, having recovered from a 1-3 deficit and we were playing for a trip to the NBA Finals. Even though we lost, we were at least IN the big game. Nowadays, it's first round and out year after year, injuries, injuries, injuries. We're the only Western conference team to not win a playoff series in the last 10 years. I'd much rather watch us lose a big game than not even PLAYING in a big game.
 
The Sebastian Express said:
Yes, let's talk about Amar'e. How Amar'e came back too soon, put too much pressure and compensated with his other leg and played three games before being shut down again. A sound move.

You'll remember Greg had his microfracture surgery 13 months ago, so that requires another 5 months until it is 1.5 years. He was doing 5 on 5 less than a year after his first microfracture (hey, remember that, this wasn't his first), and his doctor for this one gave him an 18 month recovery schedule. Shockingly, November 2010 to December 2011 is not 18 months.

Additionally, let us recall two other items: Second microfracture was on his knee that was also still recovering from having its patella broken, and his doctors up until this point have said he is right on schedule.

So unless you want Greg to randomly develop mutant genes that allow him to go massively ahead of schedule to appease you, I don't know what you want. For people here to childishly suggest he went out last night in a drunken stupor and celebrated in LA (hey, he was in Colorado and then flew to Portland) without any evidence is irresponsible and defamatory.

Greg is a good kid who has done everything the organization has asked him, .
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How do you know?
 
When will we get an update regarding his set back
 
julius said:
When will we get an update regarding his set back
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You mean the setback to the setback? Or just the original setback? It is a non-weight bearing ligament and they are concerned about the stability of it. Pretty much his knee needs to gain strength back normally, over the course of the next ~1-4 months. You looking for more? Cause I don't think it's coming.
 
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