Guess he didn't mean it?

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When Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped and assaulted, then Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert said that child molesters should be sentenced to life in prison without parole as a deterrent.

He also voted for every article of impeachment against then-President Clinton for having, and trying to cover up, consensual if sleazy sex with an adult.

He opposes any rights for gays and transpeople because our rights "endanger" children.

As it has now been revealed he molested (at least) four boys, his attorneys are saying loss of status and public shame are enough punishment and he should face no jail time.

Guess he didn't really mean it, huh?
 
When Elizabeth Smart was kidnapped and assaulted, then Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert said that child molesters should be sentenced to life in prison without parole as a deterrent.

He also voted for every article of impeachment against then-President Clinton for having, and trying to cover up, consensual if sleazy sex with an adult.

He opposes any rights for gays and transpeople because our rights "endanger" children.

As it has now been revealed he molested (at least) four boys, his attorneys are saying loss of status and public shame are enough punishment and he should face no jail time.

Guess he didn't really mean it, huh?

Hillary is now taking media criticism, supposedly from the left, that Bill signed an anticrime bill in 1994 which made prison sentences much longer. What really happened is that Republicans started the longer sentences under Reagan, liberals as usual were afraid to oppose a Republican bandwagon, and then rich conservatives installed the most conservative and blackmailable yet electable Democrat of the day, Bill Clinton, who would follow conservatives on such issues without trying to lead them or get in their way. With no opponents, new draconian legislation kept being created long after 1994.

Who would lead them? A half-dozen reactionary Republicans including Dennis Hastert, Strom Thurmond, Robert Livingston, and Newt Gingrich. All had sex secrets. Now, conservative Hillary takes it from both ends on prison sentences...Bill had his little temporary secret, but Bill's opponents, who tried so hard to ruin him, had bigger and more lifelong secrets. It was those leaders, far more than 1994 follower Bill, who are responsible for the superlong prison sentences that have made millions of American men live out on the cold streets, tens of millions live in paranoia, wiped out the 60s rebellious spirit among black people, and turned this country so reactionary compared to Europe.

The media currently reports Bill's 1994 signature more than it does the hypocrisy of Dennis Hastert. They appear to be separate issues, but are actually closely-related as I just showed. If Black Lives Matters people aren't old enough to remember the connection, then older reporters should fill in the gaps in their articles, but they aren't doing it.
 
Do not understand the hate for Marzul
He is a good poster and some people here try and drive him away!
Hasert is a scumbag, Bill Clinton is a scumbag!
 
What is the leading source of homophobia in this country? Christian churches.

What is the primary refuge for pedophiles? Christian Ministries.

Who hates homosexuals worse than Christians? Moslems.

Who are the primary source of mass-murder and terrorism in the world? Moslems.

You do the math.
 
Do not understand the hate for Marzul
He is a good poster and some people here try and drive him away!
Hasert is a scumbag, Bill Clinton is a scumbag!

I don't think anyone hates MarAzul, he just gets called out on some of the things he posts.

Hell, I've been called out 3 or 4 times today on some of the things I post.
 
What is the leading source of homophobia in this country? Christian churches.

What is the primary refuge for pedophiles? Christian Ministries.

Who hates homosexuals worse than Christians? Moslems.

Who are the primary source of mass-murder and terrorism in the world? Moslems.

You do the math.

Christians have done their share of mass murder and terrorism too.
 
What is the leading source of homophobia in this country? Christian churches.

What is the primary refuge for pedophiles? Christian Ministries.

Who hates homosexuals worse than Christians? Moslems.

Who are the primary source of mass-murder and terrorism in the world? Moslems.

You do the math.



This is an arguement that I have never seen before. So, let me see if I get your point. Are you extrapolating that Muslims kill Christians because of pedophiles within the church?
 
This is an arguement that I have never seen before. So, let me see if I get your point. Are you extrapolating that Muslims kill Christians because of pedophiles within the church?

Makes as much sense as MarAzul's argument!
 
Christians have done their share of mass murder and terrorism too.

ok..I will bite. What do you have to back that up? Spanish inquisition? Medieval miss use of church power?



oh please tell me you are referring to the Crusades. I would love to enlighten you..
 
ok..I will bite. What do you have to back that up? Spanish inquisition? Medieval miss use of church power?



oh please tell me you are referring to the Crusades. I would love to enlighten you..

i know its absolutely unbelievable, but christians do horrible, horrible things all the time. Rwanda is 93% christian for example.
 
Christians have done their share of mass murder and terrorism too.

As have atheists. The universal constant is that a lot of people are evil scumbags and will make use of whatever "ism" they can to accomplish their selfish, inhumane objectives.
 
As to the initial post in this thread, Hastert is a hypocrite of the first order who's abuse of young boys robbed them of their childhood innocence and probably left scars that will last a lifetime. I hope he gets no mercy from the courts.
 
As to the initial post in this thread, Hastert is a hypocrite of the first order who's abuse of young boys robbed them of their childhood innocence and probably left scars that will last a lifetime. I hope he gets no mercy from the courts.
This.
 
ok..I will bite. What do you have to back that up? Spanish inquisition? Medieval miss use of church power?



oh please tell me you are referring to the Crusades. I would love to enlighten you..

:bwpopcorn:
 
ok..I will bite. What do you have to back that up? Spanish inquisition? Medieval miss use of church power?



oh please tell me you are referring to the Crusades. I would love to enlighten you..

Edit: I was wrong about Timothy McVey.

But take your pick here.
 
i know its absolutely unbelievable, but christians do horrible, horrible things all the time. Rwanda is 93% christian for example.
What God wants, God gets. God help us all.
 
Edit: I was wrong about Timothy McVey.

But take your pick here.

yeah..thats about what I expected, that is the go play for those that do not want to really examine history

tell ya what, this guy is an atheist, so this is not some religious zealot. I dare you to listen to a few of hit talks, each one is like a good collage lecture.





 
Makes as much sense as MarAzul's argument!

And what argument would that be? I just speculated that the pedophile may have some inside knowledge about changes in law that may harm children.
I make no argument, simply allow for the possibility.
 
Do not understand the hate for Marzul
He is a good poster and some people here try and drive him away!

Thanks for the support Aly. But not to worry, no one here has the stick to drive away MarAzul.
He will likely go when he wants.
 
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Here's someone who murdered for Christianity.

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