Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread

[riverman]

Ha! Ridiculous! What the video demonstrates is not to point a gun at someone unless you have the will and the intent to use it.

It's ok, you can critique the teacher...it's just info..make a better one and post it. I've studied self defense and I sure don't know everything but education is part of the conversation. What exactly is your solution?

 

[riverman]

thats cute if you're being robbed by some idiot thug but a trained officer would not hold you at gun point that close. you would be in a green zone aka more than 1 move to contact. you would wait for back up to subdue. if an aggressive move is made toward you you have to fire.

No, actually you don't

 

[riverman]

Ha! Ridiculous! What the video demonstrates is not to point a gun at someone unless you have the will and the intent to use it.

Then cops would kill everyone they point a gun at, crooks and soldiers same? That is what I would call ridiculous

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Then cops would kill everyone they point a gun at, soldiers same? That is what I would call ridiculous

no, they wait for backup and subdue the assailant. no one should go cowboy holding a gun with 1 hand and handcuffing with the other. it's kind of like basketball, team work trumps melo chuck every time.

 

[MarAzul]

Yes.

http://www.katu.com/communities/northeastportland/Police-Man-s

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2014/07/18/11576174/

lhttp://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/04/flash_mob_theft_at_lloyd_cente.html

umm, I guess it is all a matter of perception.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

No, actually you don't

you're right you can still move backwards and maintain a safe distance. i should have said you have to be willing to fire. what a lot of people dont realize is most untrained people holding a gun are too scared to use it.

 

[riverman]

I always wondered why tranquilizer darts wouldn't be the most effective weapon to control threat...if you need to bring down a Bengali Tiger, you tranq it.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I always wondered why tranquilizer darts wouldn't be the most effective weapon to control threat...if you need to bring down a Bengali Tiger, you tranq it.

you still need a firearm to shoot the dart.

 

[MarAzul]

It's ok, you can critique the teacher...it's just info..make a better one and post it. I've studied self defense and I sure don't know everything but education is part of the conversation. What exactly is your solution?

Well you don't hold a gun on man that close while he is on his feet and free to move. If you are that dumb then the liberal view that you are likely to be the victim if you have a gun is true.
Of course, could hand the guy, a knife, or a club the same way. The dude is a victim looking for a confirmation.

 

[Hobbesarable]

http://www.katu.com/communities/northeastportland/Police-Man-s

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2014/07/18/11576174/

lhttp://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/04/flash_mob_theft_at_lloyd_cente.html

umm, I guess it is all a matter of perception.

I knew what that area was like 20 years ago. It has improved.

 

[riverman]

Well you don't hold a gun on man that close while he is on his feet and free to move. If you are that dumb then the liberal view that you are likely to be the victim if you have a gun is true.
Of course, could hand the guy, a knife, or a club the same way. The dude is a victim looking for a confirmation.

It's the bad guy that's holding the gun, the teachers shows how to take it away..lot of folks study these things for good and bad reasons. It's just one situation and chaos more often than not doesn't follow predictable patterns. My teacher could have disarmed that guy with a broomstick

 

[MarAzul]

I always wondered why tranquilizer darts wouldn't be the most effective weapon to control threat...if you need to bring down a Bengali Tiger, you tranq it.

Umm, don't do it unless you have a place to hide. The several seconds it takes for the drug to work is too long. I did it once on my bull at the ranch. Geez it pissed him off! But then he didn't have a gun.

 

[riverman]

I'm starting to think Martial arts should be a required course in public schools from K-12 as well as weaponry and safety

 

[MarAzul]

I knew what that area was like 20 years ago. It has improved.

I guess I don't care for the excitement. I took my kids there to ice skate 40+ years ago, didn't like the shit I got then. Never went back.
But I guess Sly likes it.

 

[Hobbesarable]

The shit you got?

Do you mind expanding on that?

 

[riverman]

It's always amazing to me how places I used to avoid when I was 21 have turned into Disneyland with Sushi bars

 

[MarAzul]

I'm starting to think Marshall arts should be a required course in public schools from K-12 as well as weaponry and safety

Not a bad idea. But you really can't practice the good stuff.

 

[e_blazer]

I always wondered why tranquilizer darts wouldn't be the most effective weapon to control threat...if you need to bring down a Bengali Tiger, you tranq it.

Phaser set to "stun", that's the answer.

 

[MarAzul]

The shit you got?

Do you mind expanding on that?

Naw! No entertainment value.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

The shit you got?

Do you mind expanding on that?

Before the covering and remodel of LLoyd Center they used to have a pagan lighting ceremony for the giant Christmas tree they had there.

True story.

 

[MarAzul]

My teacher could have disarmed that guy with a broomstick

Yeah, I believe you. Like I said, the guy was a victim, seeking his due. Or like we use to say, a Sad Sack.

 

[Hobbesarable]

Before the covering and remodel of LLoyd Center they used to have a pagan lighting ceremony for the giant Christmas tree they had there.

True story.

Sounds like my kind of place!

 

[MarAzul]

Before the covering and remodel of LLoyd Center they used to have a pagan lighting ceremony for the giant Christmas tree they had there.

True story.

I remember reading about that, I think. Kind a cool, I always liked Beltain.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I remember reading about that, I think. Kind a cool, I always liked Beltain.

I remember watching a wiccan ceremony in the dunes at Florence during the Summer Solstice.

 

[MARIS61]

Wow, pro gun websites having pro gun articles.

Here's an interesting fact, flat earth websites have articles about the earth being flat.

Shocking, I know.

And gun-control nuts fabricate facts and hide their heads in the sand.

How about the FBI facts?

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...icide_by_weapon_private_citizen_2008-2012.xls

 

[SlyPokerDog]

And gun-control nuts fabricate facts and hide their heads in the sand.

How about the FBI facts?

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...icide_by_weapon_private_citizen_2008-2012.xls

Should felons be allowed to have guns?

 

[MarAzul]

Should felons be allowed to have guns?

Probably, as soon as their voting right is restored. If the can vote, then give them back their other rights.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Probably, as soon as their voting right is restored. If the can vote, then give them back their other rights.

39 states allow felons to vote once they are off probation or parole.

 

[MarAzul]

Has anyone proposed a fix that would have stopped the whako that shot the Students at UCC? He passed all the back ground checks in place for the legally purchase arms he had.

Or do we just add more useless hurdles for the regular folks to clear?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Has anyone proposed a fix that would have stopped the whako that shot the Students at UCC? He passed all the back ground checks in place for the legally purchase arms he had.

Or do we just add more useless hurdles for the regular folks to clear?

A background check is a useless hurdle?