Gun Control, Mental healthcare, big brother... thread (4 Viewers)

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I don't believe felons, or illegals, or even people who are here legally should own guns. I'm interested in using mental illness as a factor for gun ownership but that needs to be carefully and narrowly defined. I think that is much more logical and reasonable than no background checks.
I've pretty much been that way for many years...what it comes down to most of all is I don't trust people to be rational, civil or logical most of the time and that's actually sad
 
Proving the absurdities of gun free zones.
I don't think gun free zones are absurd at all, and a rise in security guard contracts has really nothing to do with it from my perspective
 
hahaha holy shit, i forgot maris is afraid of dogs. Sly! you better be a good boy. Who's a good boy?

now if there were a dog in a movie theater, that would be truly horrifying,

Why is it nobody here can post about me without lying?

It seems nobody has the debating skills to engage in honest conversation supporting their viewpoints on important issues, so they take the predictable cop-out of mock and ridicule, exposing their tiny IQ's to the world.

I'm a dog lover. Have 2 dogs currently. Have always had at least one dog. Have never feared dogs. Have been attacked by dogs numerous times. Any fear or anger involved would be directed at the irresponsible dog owners. I picture you as probably someone who should not have a dog.
 
mental illness as a factor for gun ownership

I think you might be thinking of a competency vetting. I also think you need to earn the right to be armed through a responsible mentor. It might be your father but it could be someone else willing to take the responsibility for bringing you through the process. Right now, my daughter is rather pissed at me because I will not give her son one of my guns. I won't because I an not sure
he is ready to handle it. And so far he hasn't been willing to come pass the test. In my view, as a parent, to allow a young male to become armed when he is not mature and ready to be responsible, you have committed an atrocious act on society, criminal to be certain.
 
Why is it nobody here can post about me without lying?

It seems nobody has the debating skills to engage in honest conversation supporting their viewpoints on important issues, so they take the predictable cop-out of mock and ridicule, exposing their tiny IQ's to the world.

I'm a dog lover. Have 2 dogs currently. Have always had at least one dog. Have never feared dogs. Have been attacked by dogs numerous times. Any fear or anger involved would be directed at the irresponsible dog owners. I picture you as probably someone who should not have a dog.
I've never lied about you..wouldn't know how..disagreed, yeah sure, but lie? nah
 
It's the bad guy that's holding the gun, the teachers shows how to take it away..lot of folks study these things for good and bad reasons. It's just one situation and chaos more often than not doesn't follow predictable patterns. My teacher could have disarmed that guy with a broomstick

Your teacher would be dead.

And if he's any good, he'd teach you that.
 
I don't think gun free zones are absurd at all, and a rise in security guard contracts has really nothing to do with it from my perspective
Gun free zone means killing zone with a free pass for the wacko in my view. An I sure get it how you all feel good about making a place a "gun free zone" but dam, I wish you would get over
the feel good. The is no other good.
 
Your teacher would be dead.

And if he's any good, he'd teach you that.
That's quite a presumption there Maris...you seem to like defining others from a distance without a reference point I've noticed...I might learn something from you if you weren't busy dissecting my posts for the sake of argument. I doubt if you could teach him more about self defense than he could teach you but we'll never know...you might be the next Bruce Lee
 
Why is it nobody here can post about me without lying?

It seems nobody has the debating skills to engage in honest conversation supporting their viewpoints on important issues, so they take the predictable cop-out of mock and ridicule, exposing their tiny IQ's to the world.

I'm a dog lover. Have 2 dogs currently. Have always had at least one dog. Have never feared dogs. Have been attacked by dogs numerous times. Any fear or anger involved would be directed at the irresponsible dog owners. I picture you as probably someone who should not have a dog.

Maris, I love your posts.
 
Gun free zone mean killing zone with a free pass for the wacko in my view. An I sure get it how you all feel good about making a place a "gun free zone" but dam, I wish you would get over
the feel good. The is no other good.
Demilitarized zones are supposed to work as gun free zones in place like the border of Korea...there are always people who break the rules but they serve a purpose
 
Why is it nobody here can post about me without lying?

It seems nobody has the debating skills to engage in honest conversation supporting their viewpoints on important issues, so they take the predictable cop-out of mock and ridicule, exposing their tiny IQ's to the world.

I'm a dog lover. Have 2 dogs currently. Have always had at least one dog. Have never feared dogs. Have been attacked by dogs numerous times. Any fear or anger involved would be directed at the irresponsible dog owners. I picture you as probably someone who should not have a dog.
Having a discussion does not require a sparring partner but you seem to need that..tell me how you would improve our public safety and we'll have a conversation..tell me I'm an idiot and we'll just play ping pong
 
Demilitarized zones are supposed to work as gun free zones in place like the border of Korea...there are always people who break the rules but they serve a purpose

I dig the Korea zone, but not the schools.
 
In communist nations, if you weren't a communist, you were declared insane.

Slippery slope and all that.
 
My wife could have me declared insane...that would be..well....insane!
 
Why is it nobody here can post about me without lying?

It seems nobody has the debating skills to engage in honest conversation supporting their viewpoints on important issues, so they take the predictable cop-out of mock and ridicule, exposing their tiny IQ's to the world.

I'm a dog lover. Have 2 dogs currently. Have always had at least one dog. Have never feared dogs. Have been attacked by dogs numerous times. Any fear or anger involved would be directed at the irresponsible dog owners. I picture you as probably someone who should not have a dog.

:lol:

im not necessarily not posting for my own amusement, maybe you old folks dont understand irony
 
Sly, here is my test for guns.

are you white and male? Then you're ok. Are you white and female? "

 
nothing says freedom like armed guards in your kindergartners finger painting class.

Those kindergartners should be at the firing range anyway. How the hell will they learn to defend themselves finger painting?

barfo
 
i know when i go to a movie, i want somebody with an ak47 sitting behind me. just in case anybody starts texting.
 
Has anyone proposed a fix that would have stopped the whako that shot the Students at UCC? He passed all the back ground checks in place for the legally purchase arms he had.

Or do we just add more useless hurdles for the regular folks to clear?

A lot of behavior red flags for several years, but mostly only his family and neighbors and private school had contact with him, and strangers on 4chan goading him on at the end. It was one of them that suggested a school as a safer place to kill people.

The only contact with government was getting kicked out of boot camp after only a month, maybe that was the best chance at "diagnosing" his mental problems. Haven't heard why he washed out.

But most guys who enlist in the military do it because they have nothing else going for them as they strike out in the real world. No serious girlfriend, no plotted career course, a general feeling that they've been nurtured for 18 years only to be kicked to the curb without a guidebook or pocket change. They're perfectly sane, just socially adrift. For most, it's exactly what they need to get on track. Structure, purpose, camaraderie, training, confidence, pride.

I think it falls on family and friends, when they have influence. But there's nowhere for them to turn for help really. Our mental healthcare is expensive and ineffective. Nobody really has a clue how to "cure" crazy people. Would counseling have sent Hitler down a different path? Doubtful.

Crazy + anger = violence.

The mentally ill have always been discarded or shut away and lobotomized in the past.

But over the last 4 decades their numbers have multiplied beyond belief.

About 36,000 Americans commit suicide each year.

About 29,000 of those Americans commit suicide without using a firearm.

Now there's an issue to campaign for President on, preventing 36,000 suicides each year.


But here we are talking about guns again.
 
again, oregon allows suicides.

seems like you have chosen to reside inside the belly of the beast.
 
imo, suicide should be legal everywhere. if you want to go, it should be your right to do so. maybe put suicide booths on the corners to cut down on the mess.
 
suicides are a problem, but so is people thinking they can kill other people. And those people who feel that way shouldn't be around guns, nor should we as a country get such huge boners for guns.
 

Pioneer in education started with orphans and mentally ill patients
 
It's always amazing to me how places I used to avoid when I was 21 have turned into Disneyland with Sushi bars

I never used to avoid anyplace when I was 21, but now I avoid Disneyland and Sushi bars.

Sooner or later theme parks will become terrorist targets. I'm surprised they aren't already. Terrorists love killing children.
So I avoid them.

Sushi bars sell sushi, so I avoid those too.
 
I never used to avoid anyplace when I was 21, but now I avoid Disneyland and Sushi bars.

Sooner or later theme parks will become terrorist targets. I'm surprised they aren't already. Terrorists love killing children.
So I avoid them.

Sushi bars sell sushi, so I avoid those too.
Traveling, it's always best to know where not to go...trust me, I've tested my theory..Yachting off the coast of Somalia...not a great idea
 

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