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Thank you Al and Dump. The sky isn't falling. Everyone else just relax. Three weeks or a month at this point in the season isn't catastrophic in the position they are in. Talbot has shown himself to be a more than capable starter. Count me in the 'not worried' camp. If they go 2-10 for the rest of the month then yeah it may be worry time. Until March 1st....
 
I have faith Talbot will be just fine but you still need somebody half way decent to back him up.
 
Yeah I'm really not worried about the situation at all, Talbot needs to step up and prove to the league he's a starter, it will be beneficial to him and to the team
 
To me the issue with Cam is rebound control. He is very loose with those rebounds sometimes. That is what makes Hank so great, he has ridiculous rebound control. Very rarely, SC winning goal not withstanding, does Hank leave big rebounds. Cam very often leaves pucks in bad areas off rebounds. That is something I will watch closely with Cam.
 
Right, not sure what your point is though. This is the hand we are dealt at the moment, so Cam is the topic, and to improve I think he needs to work on rebound control (we saw it on the 1st goal today).

And BTW...Cam said he only signed through next season because he wants to be a starter somewhere the following season, well working on rebound control will go a long way in deciding if he can be a starter someday.
 
Every goalie has a weakness or two. Hank has been bad at handling the puck for years and never really fixed it. His high glove side was also an issue for some time.
 
Other than Klein the dmen just arent pulling their weight enough against the better teams.
 
I think Staal has been good. Mcd and G have been bad. Moore is Moore. He is serviceable but not sure if this guy will ever progress. Boyle has been alright.
 
Would you stop with the D sc. It is crazy now bro. Staal, McD, Girardi...on and on. You complain about these guys not stop. The D is fine. The D is not an issue. This team ranks near the top of the league in goals allowed per game every single season.

It isn't the D's fault Cam let in the 3rd goal. The D held Boston to 2 goals. The D is fine. There are not many teams in the NHL with a better D.

I have not been the biggest Staal fan, but he has been really good this season...really good. Girardi has been his usual solid self. McDonagh has not played up to his level, I agree there. He is a -5 in his last 11 games, and clearly needs to step up his game. But even with that being the case the D overall is very good. How many D's in the NHL are better 1-6 than the Rangers...not many.

The D is not an issue. Depth upfront is a clear issue. Either the top 5 or 6 guys score or we do not score. That simply will not cut it in the payoffs. There is your issue my friend.

You want to tell me against bigger physical teams they get pounded sometimes, yeah they do I agree. But the D isn't an issue overall. They do need to play better against bigger teams, but I don't see the D as this big issue. The forward depth is a way bigger issue. And with our top 4 signed long term, this is your D for better or worse.
 
And of course every goalie has some weaker areas, but we are talking about Cam and his ability to be our guy for 12-15 games or more. We are talking about Cam and his ability to be a # 1 like he wants to be after next season. And for that to happen, he must get better with rebound control, and we saw it on the 1st goal today.
 
McDonagh definately needs to be alot better, while Staal and G are what they are at this stage, while Boyle needs to start shooting more. They need one more physical guy with a hard shot.
 
Staal and Girardi are good solid dmen. Not going to be flashy, but get the job done. Very solid as 2 and 3 dmen. Klein has played more like a # 3 guy, but is the # 4 guy for us, which makes our D good and deep. And Boyle playss more like a # 4, but is the # 5 for us. Again good and deep D. Moore/Hunwick are very good for 6th dmen.

With that said, McDonagh is the key of course. If/when he gets back to playing like a # 1 stud, our D will be excellent again. That's the key, because 2-5 (Girardi, Staal, Klein, Boyle) have been very solid.
 
Lots of speculation in that article. Nothing suggests he had a dissection of the artery.
 
I am concerned and I was from the start. BUT there is nothing we can do about it. Just hope 2 weeks from now when he gets checked again things are good and he can play. If not we are done obviously. All we can do is wait, but I am concerned. When I read and hear things like hope to be back by the end of the season, that doesn't sound good.
 
It's up in the air but is what it is. For the time being dwelling on it does no good. He will be reevaluated in a couple of weeks or so and it will go from there.
 
All we can do is wait...agreed Mess. No point in going round and round about it.
 
Talbot simply isn't going to cut it. This team cannot afford weak goals every game he starts.
 
Funny...we posted at the same time. Soft goals every single game. Look at the save % the past few games...not good enough.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Funny...we posted at the same time. Soft goals every single game. Look at the save % the past few games...not good enough.
Click to expand...

The bottom line is they're limiting shots and tough shots on him. The goals he's allowing are garbage.
 
Why did Lundqvist say in his press conference, "I am hoping to be back before the playoffs begin?". Doesn't that mean he is out for 2 months total? I know they said at least two weeks but it sounds like it is going to be way more than that. In Feb we are fine, but in March there are some tough games.
 
It's impossible to really know. We're not doctors nor do we have information on exactly what the damage was. He will be reevaluated in a couple of weeks and hopefully they can give a time table on when he could return.
 
I doubt he had any type of dissection as some articles speculated. That actually killed a cricket player from Australia late last year.
 
I think at this point Hank's injury is sounding pretty serious and anyone thinking he'll be back in a month is in fantasyland. What to do? Unless I missed someone the scrubs that are available aren't going to be appreciatively better than cam to justify moving assets for that we will need for another top 9 forward. So I think when all is said and done we roll the dice with Cam with a sprinkling of the kid for a game or 2 until hank gets back. If hank doesn't return which sounds also possible now I don't see us progressing far in the playoffs this year. And by the way as others have said despite cam being shaky it would be helpful if he didn't have to worry about his 2 star defenseman McD and Magoo constantly being a threat to score on him as the opposition. Staal and klein have been so much better than those 2 this season that I'm surprised AV hasn't switched them up for a bit till McD gets his head out of his ass and remembers he was supposed to be a top 5 D-man this year.
 
Talbots biggest issue from what I've seen is his timing on long shots and losing track of the puck when there's a guy in front. You simply can't play that position with a oh well I can't see attitude regardless of where a shot comes from. Watch the veteran goalies constantly fighting to keep the puck in sight.
 
I agree Mess...he struggles tracking pucks for sure.

As for Hank, it is simple to me. If he is not back for the playoffs we are going no where...period. So I won't even waste time debating it. I do agree unlikely he is back early to mid March. I said last week if he is back by the end of March that gives him 6 games to get ready for the playoffs, we have 6 games in April. I was shooting for 10 games, so for that he'd need to be back by March 26th. That is my hope/focus for Hank.
 
Has anyone brought up the fact how the Ranger management
has treated this "severe" injury? Truly one of the strangest diagnosis
from a sport franchise...................and to make it even more
ridiculous...........it is to the franchise goaltender. How bizarre.
 
So if the Jets are going into a semi-rebuild, then maybe they're willing to deal...you guessed it.
 
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