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crandc said:
The new prosecutor in Ukraine, put in place when the new government fired the corrupt one now conspiring with Giuliani. You can look it up.
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I can look up corruption in Ukraine? Is that like looking up stats for NBA games?
 
H.C. said:
and still lost to DONALD TRUMP.
But I already knew you didn't learn anything sir.
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Sort of lost to Trump. Hillary did win the most votes, though which made her the more popular candidate.
 
As I said, the new prosecutor who replaced the old corrupt prosecutor with whom Giuliani is now considering, conducted an extensive investigation of Burisma. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
 
crandc said:
As I said, the new prosecutor who replaced the old corrupt prosecutor with whom Giuliani is now considering, conducted an extensive investigation of Burisma. Deflect, deflect, deflect.
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Deflect what? You have access to the files and all that? Or you just think that because MSNBC says so?

Of course any time a police officer is found not guilty of something all of you will come in here and call bullshit.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Deflect what? You have access to the files and all that? Or you just think that because MSNBC says so?

Of course any time a police officer is found not guilty of something all of you will come in here and call bullshit.
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How about USA Today?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

or The New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment

How about the LA Times?

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-05/bidens-visits-to-ukraine-under-scrutiny

I'd offer the NY Times but many times it requires a subscription to read their articles.
 
Lanny said:
How about USA Today?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

or The New Yorker

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment

How about the LA Times?

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-05/bidens-visits-to-ukraine-under-scrutiny

I'd offer the NY Times but many times it requires a subscription to read their articles.
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Read all of those articles and find one shred of proof that anyone investigated the Bidens and Burisma. Just quote one paragraph.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Huffington Post
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I remember posts from years earlier. I can do this all day.
Lanny said:
Source that's won some journalism accolades.
"Awards
  • In 2012, The Huffington Post won the Pulitzer Prize in the category of national reporting for senior military correspondent David Wood's 10-part series about wounded veterans, Beyond the Battlefield.
  • The Huffington Post is 2010 People's Voice Winner in the 14th Webby Awards and is the Winner in Lead411's New York City Hot 125. The Huffington Post lost the 2010 Webby Award jury prize for Best Political Blog to Truthdig.
  • The Huffington Post received a Peabody Award in 2010 for "Trafficked: A Youth Radio Investigation."
  • The Huffington Post was named second among the 25 Best Blogs of 2009 by Time.
  • The Huffington Post won the 2006 and 2007 Webby Awards for Best Politics Blog.
  • The Huffington Post contributor Bennet Kelley was awarded the Los Angeles Press Club's 2007 Southern California Journalism Award for Online Commentary for political commentary published on the site.
  • The Huffington Post is ranked the most powerful blog in the world by The Observer.
  • The Huffington Post co-founder Arianna Huffington was named in 2009 as number 12 in Forbes' first ever list of the Most Influential Women In Media. The same year, she was ranked as number 42 in The Guardian's Top 100 in Media List.
  • In 2015, The Huffington Post was nominated for the Responsible Media of the Year award at the British Muslim Awards"
Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HuffPost

Now, compare that with Fox News which has zero accolades, ZERO
In fact, Fox News has a bevy of controversies.

Now, which one is light years ahead of the other in credibility?
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Ahh, how compelling...since I won't play your little game, you're now relegated to insulting me. ...again, very compelling.

And no, I won't cite a biblical passage to return the favor...but I will "pray for you".
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Read all of those articles and find one shred of proof that anyone investigated the Bidens and Burisma. Just quote one paragraph.
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Their national prosecutor said he cleared Hunter of anything illegal.
What Hunter did is practically a national pastime in that country for big companies. Something Hunter should have never done. Not illegal but shady for Burisma.
 
Lanny said:
Their national prosecutor said he cleared Hunter of anything illegal.
What Hunter did is practically a national pastime in that country for big companies. Something Hunter should have never done. Not illegal but shady for Burisma.
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Hell Lanny, if you think about it, the same type things go on here in the US.
 
Lanny said:
Their national prosecutor said he cleared Hunter of anything illegal.
What Hunter did is practically a national pastime in that country for big companies. Something Hunter should have never done. Not illegal but shady for Burisma.
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Exactly. Thank you
 
Umm, no, I'm not...but you're welcome to spin again.

Don't know what your problem is with me and frankly don't care, but again, I won't play your game just for your entertainment.
 
yankeesince59 said:
Hell Lanny, if you think about it, the same type things go on here in the US.
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I'm sure it does but not to the extent that Ukraine does it.

I do remember Boeing hiring a retired General to help them get military contracts. We lost a huge one and they fired the General whom they considered feckless.

Speaking of Boeing, I remember when I was tasked with organizing files of producibility reports, one for each manager. We were contractually obligated to do producibility and to document it with these reports. Producibility is simply working on improving the cost of production, the schedule or the quality of the product. So I kept getting the run around from this one manager who simply wasn't going to do anything to justify our receipt of Air Force funds for doing producibility studies and documenting it. I would go into his office day after day seeking something to keep us from an Air Force lawsuit. Finally, he throws me out of his office. I reported this to my boss and he reported it to his boss and the next higher boss but they refused to do anything. It was very soon after that that I left the military side of the house and moved upt to Everett to build Jumbo jets. Fuck that shit. I should have become a whistle blower. I'm not sure if they had a whistle blower law at that time. It was somewhere around 1987.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
Maybe you will read this.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/598804/

Yankee is going to bring this up like I didn't just link this opinion piece for him
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Like I said, it was shady but legal. You wave lots of money at people and they often can't resist.
Again, Hunter never should have fallen into that tar pit but no laws were broken and certainly no laws were even remotely broken when Joe Biden lobbied for the removal of that thoroughly corrupt national prosecutor, Shokin.
 
Lanny said:
I'm sure it does but not to the extent that Ukraine does it.

I do remember Boeing hiring a retired General to help them get military contracts. We lost a huge one and they fired the General whom they considered feckless.

Speaking of Boeing, I remember when I was tasked with organizing files of producibility reports, one for each manager. We were contractually obligated to do producibility and to document it with these reports. Producibility is simply working on improving the cost of production, the schedule or the quality of the product. So I kept getting the run around from this one manager who simply wasn't going to do anything to justify our receipt of Air Force funds for doing producibility studies and documenting it. I would go into his office day after day seeking something to keep us from an Air Force lawsuit. Finally, he throws me out of his office. I reported this to my boss and he reported it to his boss and the next higher boss but they refused to do anything. It was very soon after that that I left the military side of the house and moved upt to Everett to build Jumbo jets. Fuck that shit. I should have become a whistle blower. I'm not sure if they had a whistle blower law at that time. It was somewhere around 1987.
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Yup, speaking of Boeing, did you see where their Starliner was just launched but failed

Needless to say, it has not been one of Boeing's better years.
 
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yankeesince59 said:
Yup, speaking of Boeing, did you see where their Starliner was just launched but failed?
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No
Boeing bought out McDonnell-Douglas after I left the company. Now, I've heard that some of the McDonnell-Douglas brass has a different take on quality that the old Boeing airplane hierarchy and they lobbied for a quicker solution to Boeing's 737 Max balance problem. Now this imbalance was solved by software that adjusted for an unnatural pitch up in flight. The pitch was caused by the lengthening of a 737 to make it a 737 Max which necessitated the relocating of the engines a little farther back. This pitch was corrected by The software was rushed through. Boeing engineers would never have allowed anything that wasn't as safe as possible. Remember, it was the DC 10 that had those fatal crashes.
I've worked on the factory floor providing direction to the various workmen. I guess I've worked on just about every part of the 747 and 757 and was involved at the upper management level on the producibility of the 747, 757 and the 747 which wasn't in production yet but they wanted to get ready. I can tell you for a fact that they used to build the safest planes in the world.

Oh, how the mighty have fallen.

I wish with all my might that they could get back to being the excellent company that they were.
 
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