Has your opinion of Hendo changed?

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No. Olshey described him as a rotation player when he was acquired, so I never got my hopes up. I expect him and Kaman to be traded by the deadline.
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I think Wesley Matthews is going to go 0-8 last night if he makes 12 million less than he is actually making. Do you think he would be playing better/worse on a smaller/larger contract?

You are not differentiating production from expectations.
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Nate is absolutely right on basing expectations based on payroll. Wes is expected to produce way more. The difference in expected production vs actual production is not even close.

Here is the thing. Does anyone think that Wes was going to become a BETTER player over the next 1-3 years if he would NOT have been injured? I don't. I think we were lucky to see his best years of production either way. He is a very limited, non athletic player in a league that is continually evolving into a more athletic game of running. Wes couldn't dribble the ball for shit for a guard, a main requirement in a guard's game. He is a player that needed to rely on others to get his post up shot. He did start to show signs of a decent post up game, but that's defendable when scouted properly. He is not a play maker but practically got paid like one. He is a great back up shooting guard in my opinion, who got thrust into the starting lineup when Roy went down and played well enough to keep the position ONLY because the Blazers ALSO lost Oden and found themselves with bigger holes to fill. I don't believe a team can win with Wes in a realistic starting lineup anymore than I believe a team can win with LMA as a #1. I loved Wes when he was here He gave us his all, there's no doubt about it... I just think we also saw the best of Wes.
 
Hendo is lowering my opinion of him every game. I understand missing shots but he's forcing offense instead of letting CJ set things up. He needs to play a secondary role as Mason does, wait until the defense overcommits to our PG then take advantage. He should not play as if he's the primary offensive option.

His defense hasn't been good either. If he's still injured then Stotts should make him prove he's back in practice first. Seriously thinking Pat could be a better option at this point.

He's definitely not helping his trade value either.
 
I'm definitely down to see pat get some run, but we have to keep things in perspective. Henderson literally just started playing with his teammates. It takes time. Plumlee wasn't looking so hot in preseason either. If Henderson is still struggling in a month, make the change.
 
Yes Henderson is playing like shit, yes I'd love to see someone else play. But at the same time it's nice that Stotts is letting him play rather than benching him for a rookie so soon. It is definitely a players coach type of move. Pat shouldn't be taking offense to a more seasoned player getting the benefit of the doubt, but if Stotts were to throw in the towel with Hendo so quick it might piss him off, which means this is a good chemistry move, and I'm sure if Hendo can't get his ish together he will understand someone else getting the nod.
 
I'm liking what I'm seeing with Frazier on the floor. I'd rather see Crabbe and Frazier out there rather than Henderson.
 
Yeah Frazier has been very effective to my surprise. Another idea is have him in there with CJ at SG in the second units. With Harkless and Davis in there defensively it could be a good mix.
 
Draco said:
Hendo is lowering my opinion of him every game. I understand missing shots but he's forcing offense instead of letting CJ set things up. He needs to play a secondary role as Mason does, wait until the defense overcommits to our PG then take advantage. He should not play as if he's the primary offensive option.

His defense hasn't been good either. If he's still injured then Stotts should make him prove he's back in practice first. Seriously thinking Pat could be a better option at this point.

He's definitely not helping his trade value either.
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Don't you have to assume that Henderson being aggressive is what Stotts is telling him to do?
 
This is like Afflalo all over again.

The guy was trying to play through a shoulder injury and people bashed the shit out of him. Now he's back to being a fairly decent rotation guy for the Knicks.

Hendo has played in six games all year, after sitting out training camp and the preseason. Give him some time.
 
Henderson looks OK for a dude recovering from surgery that hasn't had a lot of time to gel with the rest of the players. I think he can be a real 2nd unit threat in transition as the season progresses. If he think he's going to jack up fadeaway jumpers as his main offensive move, he's going to be tough to watch.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is like Afflalo all over again.

The guy was trying to play through a shoulder injury and people bashed the shit out of him. Now he's back to being a fairly decent rotation guy for the Knicks.

Hendo has played in six games all year, after sitting out training camp and the preseason. Give him some time.
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Its funny but I've also been thinking Hendo is having a very similar tenure here as Afflalo.

You see it as a positive I see it as a huge negative.
 
Draco said:
Its funny but I've also been thinking Hendo is having a very similar tenure here as Afflalo.

You see it as a positive I see it as a huge negative.
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I don't see it as a positive. I see it as a "meh." I don't think he has a future here. I think he's getting PT because Neil wants to package him and Kaman.


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I think dame and CJ are Neils vision for the future in the backcourt, and honestly there aren't many SG's that CJ is giving up size to anymore. I'd like to see the team pickup a bigger PG to come off the bench.
 
Schilly said:
I think dame and CJ are Neils vision for the future in the backcourt, and honestly there aren't many SG's that CJ is giving up size to anymore. I'd like to see the team pickup a bigger PG to come off the bench.
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love to get delon Wright from Toronto at 6'5.5, he's getting no playin time behind Lawson and another guy whose name I forgot
 
There's a 6'8 dude who plays for Charlotte that could play some point.... I think his name is pronounced Bate-um.
 
Schilly said:
I think dame and CJ are Neils vision for the future in the backcourt, and honestly there aren't many SG's that CJ is giving up size to anymore. I'd like to see the team pickup a bigger PG to come off the bench.
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Natebishop3 said:
There's a 6'8 dude who plays for Charlotte that could play some point.... I think his name is pronounced Bate-um.
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We've got PLumlee!!!! Come on now...
 
Blazinaway said:
love to get delon Wright from Toronto at 6'5.5, he's getting no playin time behind Lawson and another guy whose name I forgot
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Cory Joseph who was the backup last year on the Spurs. Played real good when Parker and Patty were injured.
 
Natebishop3 said:
There's a 6'8 dude who plays for Charlotte that could play some point.... I think his name is pronounced Bate-um.
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Wouldn't shock me if we make an offer in free agency. Him and Dame seemed close.

But I expect Hornets give him the max which is $25mil more than we can offer.
 
The longer Neil waits to deal him the more he lowers his trade value.

He's been Afflalo bad.
 
Natebishop3 said:
There's a 6'8 dude who plays for Charlotte that could play some point.... I think his name is pronounced Bate-um.
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Think Batum could be pretty good as a full time SG. If Harkless improves or we draft a SF and with Aminu here that could be his role. He was solid defensively on guards but struggled with big SF. Sucks now MKG is out we might've seen a lot of it this year. Maybe similar to Aldridge next to Rolo; Batum could look much better.

Very unlikely it actually works with contract demand and other factors to where he actually comes back and signs here but it's interesting to think about.
 
Hendo has somehow even lowered my expectations further. Aaron Afflalo was vastly superior last year as a Blazer. Hendo makes so many poor decisions with the ball, when to shoot, and where to be on the court. The ball stops moving when he is in the game. He wouldn't give the ball to Dame or CJ when they were open. He was jacking up contested double teamed fade away long 2 pointers early in the shot clock last night.

Why is he playing?
What does he have to do for his minutes to decrease?
Besides Mr Cupcake; has there been a worse veteran addition to the Blazers in the last decade?
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
The longer Neil waits to deal him the more he lowers his trade value.

He's been Afflalo bad.
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yep, it's like watching reruns of a really bad show. he so far is last years AA which makes me need AA cause of the driking his play caues me
 
I've been disappointed in him, but I'm getting more disappointed in Aminu actually. Horrific shooting, and doing a lot of stuff on offense he shouldn't do (or more importantly, asked to do).
 
julius said:
I've been disappointed in him, but I'm getting more disappointed in Aminu actually. Horrific shooting, and doing a lot of stuff on offense he shouldn't do (or more importantly, asked to do).
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Last night he had what 6 shots? He always provides stellar defense. Think he has been trying to expand his game offensively and struggled to get a balance of when to shoot, when to push, and when to defer. His turnovers and misses were trying to make something happen which I'd much rather see than taking a terrible Kobe style shot. I'm glad to give him time to figure it out because he provides an elite skill in the meantime.

Hendo was supposed to be a polished vet, doesn't come close to being the defender, is only signed for a few more months; so his struggles are far worse.
 
Henderson is so bad you have to wonder if he is intentionally tanking his trade value just out of spite.

Felton, Crawchuck, Wallace, Camby, AA, and now Henderson. (not to mention LMA and Oden) What makes players hate this franchise so much???
 
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