Have A Great Va-Caysh, Mr. Prez

[maxiep]

I think you meant to say "SlyPokerDog isn't the dumbest motherfucker in this joint."

And, no, I don't think the issues "people" have with President Obama's policies have anything to do with him being black. I think Shooter's issue with President Obama is that he is black. Shooter didn't say Obama has no sense of shame, he said "these people."


God this place sucks when there isn't Blazer basketball to talk about.

Sly, put his name in there. I was saying SlyPokerDog is the dumbest mutherfucker here, but you're right--that's an insult to his dumb whore of a mother.

Shooter's not a racist; he's shown it in years of posts. You should apologize to him.

 

[The Sebastian Express]

Yeah, apologize to Shooter. How dare you call him a racist, that is far more offensive than his problematic comments.

 

[maxiep]

Yeah, apologize to Shooter. How dare you call him a racist, that is far more offensive than his problematic comments.

It must be exhausting to hate someone so much just because you disagree with them.

 

[Nate4Prez]

Shooter's not a racist; he's shown it in years of posts. You should apologize to him.

I don't know. This post sure makes it look like he loves white people and hates black people:

Favorite: Walton
Least favorite: (tie) J.R. Rider and Rashweed Wallace

 

[STOMP]

Sen. McConnell's point is that he's not willing to make a real compromise, which has been borne out by negotiations with the Republicans.

geez here I was taking him at the face value of his straightforward words of ranking regaining the White House as more important then working towards good policy and solutions for American People. That he's repeated that same quote several times since would make it seem pretty clear thats exactly what he meant.

Obama wanted a clean bill for raising the debt ceiling for paying off debts already incurred by congress like every other President before him had. Denied this by Republican leadership who wanted to play a game of political chicken, he initiated several massive budget cut proposals with and without tax hikes involved. Those proposals were too focused on returning tax rates on the uber rich back to traditional levels and closing corporate tax loopholes (as the American public overwhelmingly favors) for Mitch and the boys to consider. Somehow you forgot to mention this in your summary or events. Unwilling to negotiate indeed.

Everyone is welcome to hold whatever opinion they choose, but I'll be sticking to mine thanks. Will Americans stick to theirs?

STOMP

 

[maxiep]

geez here I was taking him at the face value of his straightforward words of ranking regaining the White House as more important then working towards good policy and solutions for American People. That he's repeated that same quote several times since would make it seem pretty clear thats exactly what he meant.

Obama wanted a clean bill for raising the debt ceiling for paying off debts already incurred by congress like every other President before him had. Denied this by Republican leadership who wanted to play a game of political chicken, he initiated several massive budget cut proposals with and without tax hikes involved. Those proposals were too focused on returning tax rates on the uber rich back to traditional levels and closing corporate tax loopholes (as the American public overwhelmingly favors) for Mitch and the boys to consider. Somehow you forgot to mention this in your summary or events. Unwilling to negotiate indeed.

Everyone is welcome to hold whatever opinion they choose, but I'll be sticking to mine thanks. Will Americans stick to theirs?

STOMP

Are you saying that we're incapable of cutting our budget? What part of "We're out of money" don't you understand?

 

[STOMP]

Are you saying that we're incapable of cutting our budget? What part of "We're out of money" don't you understand?

good grief... nice reading comprehension

alright, off on a hike. Enjoy your Sunday!

STOMP

 

[Denny Crane]

Republicans basically need to get out of the way when Obama falls on his own sword like this. He should fire his PR people. I cannot fathom how they let the headlines go "Obama on 3 day bus tour about jobs" to "Obama to take lavish vacation" to "thousands line up for jobs" to "Obama to play golf" in the span of 3 days.

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[maxiep]

good grief... nice reading comprehension

alright, off on a hike. Enjoy your Sunday!

STOMP

My problem is I'm burdened by an understanding of economics; you've proven yourself to not have the same constraint.

Enjoy your hike!

 

[STOMP]

My problem is I'm burdened by an understanding of economics; you've proven yourself to not have the same constraint.

Enjoy your hike!

I did! Big Basin from the ocean to the ranger station and then the bike ride back down was fantastic.

I've more then enough exposure to economics to know that I'm not buying what you're selling, thanks. Unfortunately you've often struggled to respectfully disagree and once again this is the case.

But do enjoy your Monday!

STOMP

 

[Denny Crane]

Speaking of economics...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...achs_hits_obama_theres_never_been_a_plan.html

Economist Jeffrey Sachs slammed President Obama on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Friday.

"We're almost three years into this administration, and there's never been a plan. And that's what everybody feels. And the president didn't lead. He waited. The quintessential image, sadly, of an administration that I supported and hoped for much better, is the president waiting by the phone to hear what Congress calls to tell him. It doesn't work in this country that way. It's not a matter that it's August. It's a matter that it's August 2011. So we've been drifting for a very long time. And we've been drifting down. And we had a short-term plan that failed. A short-term stimulus that was supposed to get the economy back on track, but it failed. And now we have nothing behind it. And we have no agreements, and we have no leadership. And, frankly, I do think it's pretty odd the president's on vacation right now. Normally I wouldn't care about such things, but the world markets are in deep crisis. It's no joke. This isn't just an up-and-down little blip. This is a very serious situation."

 

[maxiep]

Speaking of economics...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...achs_hits_obama_theres_never_been_a_plan.html

Economist Jeffrey Sachs slammed President Obama on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Friday.

"We're almost three years into this administration, and there's never been a plan. And that's what everybody feels. And the president didn't lead. He waited. The quintessential image, sadly, of an administration that I supported and hoped for much better, is the president waiting by the phone to hear what Congress calls to tell him. It doesn't work in this country that way. It's not a matter that it's August. It's a matter that it's August 2011. So we've been drifting for a very long time. And we've been drifting down. And we had a short-term plan that failed. A short-term stimulus that was supposed to get the economy back on track, but it failed. And now we have nothing behind it. And we have no agreements, and we have no leadership. And, frankly, I do think it's pretty odd the president's on vacation right now. Normally I wouldn't care about such things, but the world markets are in deep crisis. It's no joke. This isn't just an up-and-down little blip. This is a very serious situation."

I read that and was amazed. Sachs is a dyed-in-the-wool saltwater economist. He's not only brilliant, but highly influential. If you've lost him, you have real problems.

 

[maxiep]

I did! Big Basin from the ocean to the ranger station and then the bike ride back down was fantastic.

I've more then enough exposure to economics to know that I'm not buying what you're selling, thanks. Unfortunately you've often struggled to respectfully disagree and once again this is the case.

But do enjoy your Monday!

STOMP

I advocate people doing their own research. I'd invite you to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/General-Theory-Employment-Interest-Money/dp/1573921394

Then look at the circumstances required to pursue these advocated policies and tell me whether or not its possible given our abdication of fiscal discipline during good times.

 

[Denny Crane]

I can empirically prove Keynes is bound to fail. He assumes there is a multiplier on govt. spending that is > 1, but it really is < 1. When you realize you have to tax 10 people $10K each to pay a govt. worker $100K, the multiplier cannot be anything but a fraction.

The discussion really should be that since govt. spending is so inefficient, the money better be spent on things only the govt. can do somewhat more efficiently than the private sector.

 

[barfo]

I can empirically prove Keynes is bound to fail. He assumes there is a multiplier on govt. spending that is > 1, but it really is < 1. When you realize you have to tax 10 people $10K each to pay a govt. worker $100K, the multiplier cannot be anything but a fraction.

I'm not an economist, but I think it might be just a *wee* bit more complicated than that.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm not an economist, but I think it might be just a *wee* bit more complicated than that.

barfo

No matter how you slice and dice it, if the govt. takes in $1, it pays some % of that for middlemen to decide how to spend what's left. It cannot possibly by a multiplier of 1 or greater.