Head Coach thread

[Natebishop3]

no. how about we do our due diligence on the interview and hire the right person in the first place?

People sometimes don't work out. Or they come up short.

Billups has never been a head coach.
Hammon has never been a head coach.
MDA has bounced around the league.

How could we possibly know with certainty if someone is a good fit just from interviews?

 

[Hoopguru]

Eh..... doubtful.

Here's the problem, I think Dame can carry this team to the 8th seed no matter who's coaching. So let's say Becky comes on but she's all the horrible awful things that Calvin Natt said she is. But the team has a winning record. No better than when Stotts was here, but it's a winning record. How does the team fire her? They'd have to wait at a minimum 2-3 years, probably more on the 3+ years side before they could fire her and not look horrible. There will definitely be politics in play if you hire her. It's sad but true.

And I like her. I think she's going to be a great head coach, but that doesn't assuage my fears that if it doesn't work out, we could be stuck with her for most of the rest of Dame's prime.

Nah, the Vulcans have the Nards to fire a women if they wish to. If she came was good at what she did and performed above average and she didnt get along with upper management, they'd fire her ass.

 

[illmatic99]

And really, if we flame out, Olshey is gone. At that point, it's easy for the new GM to want to bring in their own coach.

exactly. this is just overthinking and adding a completely unnecessary requirement of the hire. Neil and staff need to do their jobs and bring in the right person from the get-go. None of this David Griffin-SVG nonsense.

 

[Natebishop3]

Nobody today would say a coach's future results will be judged differently because of their race, or nationality, or sexual preference. It's a bigoted view that posters on this board are saying judgement would be different because she is a woman.

Oh come the fuck on... it's the reality of the world we live in. She would be the first woman head coach in the NBA. Guess what that means...... more eyes are going to be on her, judging her success. There are going to be a lot of people watching how the men work under her. Are you really saying that things would be 100% the same for her as if she was a man?

 

[illmatic99]

People sometimes don't work out. Or they come up short.

Billups has never been a head coach.
Hammon has never been a head coach.
MDA has bounced around the league.

How could we possibly know with certainty if someone is a good fit just from interviews?

the interview process as Neil has laid out is multi-tiered. it involves multiple virtual and in-person interviews, background checks, insight around the league from external sources, as well as player input.

if they actually follow thru with this, it should not be difficult to see if what @calvin natt has said is true. it's actually quite difficult to hide if players tune out a coach during scouting sessions or if the person has a massive ego, etc, or even if they won't be a good basketball fit.

 

[Scalma]

I still think she replaces POP, and soon, maybe another year. If she wasn't interested in doing so, why would she still be there? Its possible, her, Pop and Org have a proposed succession plan in place.

she’s interviewing for multiple other jobs but is also pops successor? Doesn’t really add up. Actually makes it more likely that she’s not.

 

[Natebishop3]

exactly. this is just overthinking and adding a completely unnecessary requirement of the hire. Neil and staff need to do their jobs and bring in the right person from the get-go. None of this David Griffin-SVG nonsense.

Well sorry if I'm a little paranoid after I had to watch Stotts for 9 years of the same garbage iso offense and non-existent defense.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It’s an issue and we should’ve progressed past it as a society, but we haven’t, so pretending she’s gonna be treated the same is just naive. That doesn’t mean I agree with it, or that I don’t think she should get the job. But if she does, we should be prepared to be stuck with her past her expiration date if she fails. And after being stuck with Stotts long past his, I’m not sure I’m down for the extended cut.

Its simple, if Hammon is the best candidate for the Blazers coach she should be hired. If people treat her differently because shes a woman that is their fault and they should be called out on it. I don't see Neil or Jodi as having a problem treating a woman fairly. Maybe you lack that ability and believe others do as well.

 

[Natebishop3]

Let me restate my original opinion, since it seems to have been muddled with hyperbole from some posters.

I like Becky. I think she should 100% be considered for the job. I was actually really excited that we are considering her. I have been publicly talking about wanting her as coach FOR YEARS. As I said originally, I have a slight worry that if she were to not work out, it would be more difficult to fire her because of the optics than say Billups or MDA, and that scares me because we have a small window of Dame's prime left.

If you want to call me a bigot or a sexist because of those reasons, go right ahead.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

In fact I would venture to say a man with Hanmon's experience and reputation would probably have a head coach gig by now.

She got hired by the NBA champions then won 3 playoff series in the next 7 years, the last one in 2017.

I'm all for her being a candidate and hired if she is the best; but there are dozens of long time NBA assistants with more accomplishments prior to being hired as a head coach.

 

[Natebishop3]

Your mindset would have the NBA as an all white male league.

Its simple, if Hammon is the best candidate for the Blazers coach she should be hired. If people treat her differently because shes a woman that is their fault and they should be called out on it. I don't see Neil or Jodi as having a problem treating a woman fairly. Maybe you lack that ability and believe others do as well.

I don't think you even know what we're talking about here. Nobody is saying anything about her being treated unfairly. If anything, we're talking about the opposite.

Let's say for the sake of argument that she comes in and all the rumors that Calvin Natt said are true. She's just an awful fit right away. Doesn't work well with the players. Doesn't work very hard. Just mails it in. I'm skeptical of this and I highly doubt this would ever be the case, but just for the sake of this argument let's say that this is what happens. The team knows she's not a good fit, but she's the first woman head coach and if they fire her after her first year they're going to get a lot of bad press. So they don't fire her because they don't want to be considered sexist or unfair. So we waste 2-3 years of Dame's remaining years on a coach that's not a good fit.

Now, to be fair, this could still happen with Billups. We might lose 2-3 years of Dame's prime on Billups too, but the front office is going to have no problem firing a guy that doesn't work out. It would barely make the news. It would run on ESPN for one day and be gone.

But just you watch, no matter where she goes, if she's the first woman head coach it will be national news. They will talk about it on shows like The View and she will be on the talk shows. There will be a lot of eyes on this team and on her. And whenever she is fired, whether it's after a long run on a team or a short run, people will talk about how she did. Her hiring and her firing will be national news.

 

[Hoopguru]

she’s interviewing for multiple other jobs but is also pops successor? Doesn’t really add up. Actually makes it more likely that she’s not.

she’s interviewing for multiple other jobs but is also pops successor? Doesn’t really add up. Actually makes it more likely that she’s not.

Sure she has an agent and just because she has an interview doesnt mean she's not in the Spurs plan? But I het what you're saying.

 

[Hoopguru]

Let me restate my original opinion, since it seems to have been muddled with hyperbole from some posters.

I like Becky. I think she should 100% be considered for the job. I was actually really excited that we are considering her. I have been publicly talking about wanting her as coach FOR YEARS. As I said originally, I have a slight worry that if she were to not work out, it would be more difficult to fire her because of the optics than say Billups or MDA, and that scares me because we have a small window of Dame's prime left.

If you want to call me a bigot or a sexist because of those reasons, go right ahead.

I get what you are saying totally. There is always risk in every decision in basketball.

 

[BigGameDamian]

Any interest?

 

[Haakzilla]

Any interest?

Zero.

 

[James lamphear]

the interview process as Neil has laid out is multi-tiered. it involves multiple virtual and in-person interviews, background checks, insight around the league from external sources, as well as player input.

if they actually follow thru with this, it should not be difficult to see if what @calvin natt has said is true. it's actually quite difficult to hide if players tune out a coach during scouting sessions or if the person has a massive ego, etc, or even if they won't be a good basketball fit.

If that all true what said and true what olshey have said why is she in last this long and become a top 3 finalized of our coaches job. To me someone selling woof tickets about her and she was a bad in San Antonio has the rumor been said I don't think she would having job with Pop.

 

[James lamphear]

I don't think you even know what we're talking about here. Nobody is saying anything about her being treated unfairly. If anything, we're talking about the opposite.

Let's say for the sake of argument that she comes in and all the rumors that Calvin Natt said are true. She's just an awful fit right away. Doesn't work well with the players. Doesn't work very hard. Just mails it in. I'm skeptical of this and I highly doubt this would ever be the case, but just for the sake of this argument let's say that this is what happens. The team knows she's not a good fit, but she's the first woman head coach and if they fire her after her first year they're going to get a lot of bad press. So they don't fire her because they don't want to be considered sexist or unfair. So we waste 2-3 years of Dame's remaining years on a coach that's not a good fit.

Now, to be fair, this could still happen with Billups. We might lose 2-3 years of Dame's prime on Billups too, but the front office is going to have no problem firing a guy that doesn't work out. It would barely make the news. It would run on ESPN for one day and be gone.

But just you watch, no matter where she goes, if she's the first woman head coach it will be national news. They will talk about it on shows like The View and she will be on the talk shows. There will be a lot of eyes on this team and on her. And whenever she is fired, whether it's after a long run on a team or a short run, people will talk about how she did. Her hiring and her firing will be national news.

Hiring might get us more National televise games too.

 

[Natebishop3]

Hiring might get us more National televise games too.

There's definitely going to be some positives if we hire Becky. I'm hoping the NBA will want her to succeed so we start getting some calls for once

 

[OneSport3]

Are the Boston and New Orleans openings more attractive than Portland? If so, the front office better speed up the process to get their top choices.

 

[James lamphear]

Well whoever they select there always going be people to judge the hire that's normal. If it's MDA then going question about the defense end and some will it's lateral move from Stotts. Billups get hire there going question his character from the past or he hasn't been head coach or Becky is hire there will be spot light from day one or there rumors on her work ethic. But doesn't matter who the coach if don't have the right personnel that fits what the coach wants to do. Some people think we had a roster should go far in the playoffs but I am one those people didn't think we would get by Denver and we didn't. Just because the makeup of the team and if course how they was coach especially on the defense side. My pick is still Becky because I think she has the fire in her belly and knowledge of the game to be successful and believe this organization and teams need that. But whoever they decide to the head coach I will support that coach.

 

[James lamphear]

There's definitely going to be some positives if we hire Becky. I'm hoping the NBA will want her to succeed so we start getting some calls for once

That be nice.

 

[LayneStaley]

Are the Boston and New Orleans openings more attractive than Portland? If so, the front office better speed up the process to get their top choices.

Yes both are, we are right above Washington and Orlando.

 

[James lamphear]

Are the Boston and New Orleans openings more attractive than Portland? If so, the front office better speed up the process to get their top choices.

It really going be what the candidate what's every team could entice certain invidiuals to heavy at certain teams. For us they chance to coach Dame plus the organization pretty solid. Boston you some young studs that leads that team and pelicans same you get chance coach Zion and Washington you got Beal and Westbrook and so on. So there going be competition the 3 we looking at because might think it will better fit somewhere else. Yes olshey better not sit in hands to long or he might not get who wants. I think longer it goes then it won't look good for Becky be hire due to they could hire her today if she the ones the other 2 are in the playoffs right now.

 

[Natebishop3]

If I'm Becky, I would pick New Orleans. It's a young team and they can grow with her. I also think the expectations to win immediately would be much much lower.

With all the rape allegations coming out again, I'm not sure if Billups would really want to return to Boston. I also think MDA would prefer Dame over Boston. When has MDA ever had success without a top tier guard?

 

[Hoopguru]

Any interest?

Thats Terry's next job. Back to having two gun slinging guards.

 

[RR7]

If I'm Becky, I would pick New Orleans. It's a young team and they can grow with her. I also think the expectations to win immediately would be much much lower.

With all the rape allegations coming out again, I'm not sure if Billups would really want to return to Boston. I also think MDA would prefer Dame over Boston. When has MDA ever had success without a top tier guard?

If that's her thinking, Orlando would be better choice. N.O. just fired a coach after one season with a lot of money left on his deal because he couldn't get them to the playoffs. It's not the winning expectations that we or Boston have, but far greater than Orlando

 

[Sheldon Shape]

All these people saying other jobs would be more tantalizing than Portland, but looking back, who offers more job security than the Blazers organization?

Look how long Stotts and McMillan had for all their mediocrity. Whoever gets hired next is likely to get 5+ years with this franchise.

 

[crandc]

Lol. Not going to even respond any more to this.

People say that when they have no reply. LOL!!!! I pwned you!!!!!

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

Oh it is for sure. Ingram, Zion, Adams, Bledsoe….That’s a better, younger, roster than what we got.

I could see Billups jumping at that.

All they need is a good scoring guard; like CJ!

 

[Mediocre Man]

no coach is going to take a job because of a fanbase.

dame's future here isn't set in stone. probably not going anywhere, but who knows for certain?

I'd rank the openings:

1. Pelicans
2a/2b. Boston/Portland
4. Orlando
5. Indiana
6. Washington

Orlando has no state income tax
Any coach coming in has to know Olshey could easily get fired quickly, making this job risky because a new GM will want their own coach