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MadeFromDust said:
I just bought this G20 that I still need to break in though, 10mm is a BEAST.

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The Danish Sirius Sledge Patrol use this gun to fend off polar bears! I recommend you give this video a watch.
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I love the Glock guns. I wish my hands were bigger. They just feel so uncomfortable to me. And it really sucks because they are soooo reliable.
 
magnifier661 said:
I love the Glock guns. I wish my hands were bigger. They just feel so uncomfortable to me. And it really sucks because they are soooo reliable.
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G20 is the biggest Glock made, there are some smaller framed ones that I'm sure would fit your hands no problem like the G19 (9mm) or G23 (.40 cal, that I have). And they make even smaller one's than those like the G26 and G27. G42 is the smallest but it only shoots a .380
 
magnifier661 said:
I love the Glock guns. I wish my hands were bigger. They just feel so uncomfortable to me. And it really sucks because they are soooo reliable.
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The gen 4 has 6 extra back straps. Have you messed around with them at all to see if one fits your hands better?
 
Just got to play with a .45-70 lever action, a friends new rifle. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but that's a bad ass gun. It's a scouts gun that the guides on African Safari's often carry while the group hunts some specific game. The guide can take down anything with this caliber. A fairly short barrel so easy to Move about and the scope is a special scope set quite a distance forward on the rifle so that the guide always has a total view even when taking aim. The round makes a .308 look cute. Add another gun to my wish list.

Here is a pic that is very similar to the one I was playing with.
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Just got to play with a .45-70 lever action, a friends new rifle. Didn't get a chance to shoot it, but that's a bad ass gun. It's a scouts gun that the guides on African Safari's often carry while the group hunts some specific game. The guide can take down anything with this caliber. A fairly short barrel so easy to Move about and the scope is a special scope set quite a distance forward on the rifle so that the guide always has a total view even when taking aim. The round makes a .308 look cute. Add another gun to my wish list.

Here is a pic that is very similar to the one I was playing with.
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What on earth would you need a 45-70 for? A .270, .308 or .30-06 is more than capable of taking down anything on two or four legs in North America for half the cost, plus they are way easier to find ammo for.

Might as well just go up to the 50 BMG or 50-90 if you have the biggest equals best mentality

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If you are looking for a specific reason to own a .45-70 there really isn't a good one in our location. But it just felt fun to hold and I wanted to try it out. And it would look good hanging up in a cabin. It's far down my list because it fills no need, but eventually it would be a fun get. But a .30-06 comes well before for hunting.


Speaking of ammo, did you get 10mm Norma for you new gun or did you get a different load? I was reading that the original loads (Norma) are very hard to come by and that most 10mm loads are more akin to a .40. But I dont know much more than that.
 
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If you are looking for a specific reason to own a .45-70 there really isn't a good one in our location. But it just felt fun to hold and I wanted to try it out. And it would look good hanging up in a cabin. It's far down my list because it fills no need, but eventually it would be a fun get. But a .30-06 comes well before for hunting.


Speaking of ammo, did you get 10mm Norma for you new gun or did you get a different load? I was reading that the original loads (Norma) are very hard to come by and that most 10mm loads are more akin to a .40. But I dont know much more than that.
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I get that, guns are cool and fun but if you are just getting them to target shoot or "look cool" there are certain ammo types that are pretty expensive for that. I mean some of the higher end hunting rounds in 45-70 can run you around $100 for a box of 20. My AR-10 doubles as a target fun-gun and a hunting rifle so I like that versatility. My AR-15 is more strictly for fun and possibly home defense, and even though you can effectively take down a whitetail deer with it, I wouldn't. That's what the 10 is for. Maybe some smaller game if I ever got into that, but I doubt it. But hey if you have that kind of cash lying around then shoot, go for it. I'm not one to tell a gun enthusiast not to buy something, but all I'm saying is there are much cheaper platforms that will kill whatever you're trying to kill just as dead (if you're into hunting).

And all the 10mm I currently have are full powered rounds (I have about 150). I wouldn't buy a watered down load when I could just buy 40's instead. And I haven't had any trouble finding 10mm, but 25-30$ for a box of 50 is pretty spendy though. There's a place called Curt's discount gun supply on Mcloughlin that sells fully powered reloaded 10mm for only $19, and you can find some good deals online too.
 
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I save all my brass and I'm thinking about starting to reload my own ammo. A lot of people I know do it and most gun experts do it. It's a lot cheaper than buying factory ammo and probably pretty fun and educating too. Definitely something I'd like to at least know how to do.
 
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I've been to curts, great AR prices and knowledgable people.

Ya, I don't figure I'll be getting a .45-70 anytime soon cause it is a waste of money. I actually have 4 guns on my list that I'd like to pick up over the next few years. A ruger .22/45 for target and plinking, I already have a bunch of the ammo for my 10/22. I'd like a .30-06 for hunting, likely just a ruger American as a cheap meat gun. A 10mm or .44 mag as a backup gun when hiking in bear country. And then an AR at some point just to put away and have I case things go nazi or something.

Other guns I may want, but those are the four that are somewhat likely.
 
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I've been to curts, great AR prices and knowledgable people.

Ya, I don't figure I'll be getting a .45-70 anytime soon cause it is a waste of money. I actually have 4 guns on my list that I'd like to pick up over the next few years. A ruger .22/45 for target and plinking, I already have a bunch of the ammo for my 10/22. I'd like a .30-06 for hunting, likely just a ruger American as a cheap meat gun. A 10mm or .44 mag as a backup gun when hiking in bear country. And then an AR at some point just to put away and have I case things go nazi or something.

Other guns I may want, but those are the four that are somewhat likely.
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Sounds like a plan to me, guns are useful tools in a lot of different ways.
 
MadeFromDust said:
I save all my brass and I'm thinking about starting to reload my own ammo. A lot of people I know do it and most gun experts do it. It's a lot cheaper than buying factory ammo and probably pretty fun and educating too. Definitely something I'd like to at least know how to do.
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Its definitely something you want to do if you're shooting calibers that are less popular like 45-70,10mm etc. When I was handloading for my 340 Weatherby I figured $10-12 a 20 rd box versus $60-$90 a box for commercial ammo. And much of that cost was due to the Weatherby brass running at least a buck per case,other calibers are much cheaper. Just lately geared up to reload 357 sig and just off hand I'd guess $5 per 50 rds (or less) compared to $30-35 for factory. You may not save any money though because there's always some new expensive miracle doo dad you need for your reloading bench but you will shoot a lot more.
 
Tweak said:
Its definitely something you want to do if you're shooting calibers that are less popular like 45-70,10mm etc. When I was handloading for my 340 Weatherby I figured $10-12 a 20 rd box versus $60-$90 a box for commercial ammo. And much of that cost was due to the Weatherby brass running at least a buck per case,other calibers are much cheaper. Just lately geared up to reload 357 sig and just off hand I'd guess $5 per 50 rds (or less) compared to $30-35 for factory. You may not save any money though because there's always some new expensive miracle doo dad you need for your reloading bench but you will shoot a lot more.
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Nice post, Tweak! Rep'd!
 
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If you are looking for a specific reason to own a .45-70 there really isn't a good one in our location. But it just felt fun to hold and I wanted to try it out. And it would look good hanging up in a cabin. It's far down my list because it fills no need, but eventually it would be a fun get. But a .30-06 comes well before for hunting.


Speaking of ammo, did you get 10mm Norma for you new gun or did you get a different load? I was reading that the original loads (Norma) are very hard to come by and that most 10mm loads are more akin to a .40. But I dont know much more than that.
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When I was in my teens I hunted Elk with this gun.

Except mine had the octagon barre, 45-70 1886 Winchester. It had open Buckhorn sites for 100 yard and a raise up peep site in a slide you could set for 200 through 600. Loved that gun, I lost in a fire.l

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MarAzul said:
When I was in my teens I hunted Elk with this gun.

Except mine had the octagon barre, 45-70 1886 Winchester. It had open Buckhorn sites for 100 yard and a raise up peep site in a slide you could set for 200 through 600. Loved that gun, I lost in a fire.l

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Very nice. Hopefully I'll get to try one out sometime. By the way, do you have a boat gun? Some nickel plated shotgun or something? Just wondering what you will take on your new boat when she's ready?
 
Tweak said:
Its definitely something you want to do if you're shooting calibers that are less popular like 45-70,10mm etc. When I was handloading for my 340 Weatherby I figured $10-12 a 20 rd box versus $60-$90 a box for commercial ammo. And much of that cost was due to the Weatherby brass running at least a buck per case,other calibers are much cheaper. Just lately geared up to reload 357 sig and just off hand I'd guess $5 per 50 rds (or less) compared to $30-35 for factory. You may not save any money though because there's always some new expensive miracle doo dad you need for your reloading bench but you will shoot a lot more.
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Oh you can save a ton. I use to do it before I donated the gear to some younger family members. I found after several years of loading, I stopped on a regular basis and then loaded up a mass of ammo about every ten years. Still have 100s of rounds for each weapon I have, well about a 1000 for the .223. That's another thing, I found the .223 ammo sort of poor sold on the market, jammed the mini14 real regular. Loading your own
you can get all of it sized right and stop the jams.
 
Several depending on where I am going. But much of the time I will probably take the Mossberg 500 12ga pump with the slug barrel and the .357 carbine.
It is kind of a sweat little piece with an eleven round magazine.

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Fonzthecpt1 said:
I read that post as if the dude said it, and it was pretty amazing.
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If that was the dude he would have mentioned the rug that tied in the reloading bench with the rest of the room.
 
Tweak said:
Its definitely something you want to do if you're shooting calibers that are less popular like 45-70,10mm etc. When I was handloading for my 340 Weatherby I figured $10-12 a 20 rd box versus $60-$90 a box for commercial ammo. And much of that cost was due to the Weatherby brass running at least a buck per case,other calibers are much cheaper. Just lately geared up to reload 357 sig and just off hand I'd guess $5 per 50 rds (or less) compared to $30-35 for factory. You may not save any money though because there's always some new expensive miracle doo dad you need for your reloading bench but you will shoot a lot more.
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Awesome, thanks for the info and tips!
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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That is so cool. Damn, one more thing I want.
Fonzthecpt1 said:
Okay I don't even care about this shit and think that was really cool...they are probably stupid expensive though.
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Ok Fonz, you seem to always be around the gun discussions. My guess is you are young and your beliefs on this subject are more conflicted than you let on. Have you shot guns at a range? If you want to give it a try, there may be people here who would shoot with you. I will, but I only had a few guns, nothing really exciting. But I have a 9mm and a .40 if you want try those.
 
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That is so cool. Damn, one more thing I want.

Ok Fonz, you seem to always be around the gun discussions. My guess is you are young and your beliefs on this subject are more conflicted than you let on. Have you shot guns at a range? If you want to give it a try, there may be people here who would shoot with you. I will, but I only had a few guns, nothing really exciting. But I have a 9mm and a .40 if you want try those.
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I've shot a shotgun ,and I'm not against shooting or owning guns, I just don't do it myself. These 007 style shelves make me wish I did though! They would be pretty cool for hiding things other than guns...the only thing is they look fairly easy to remove. If some one recognizes it for what it is then I think it would be easy to steal the entire unit and break into it safely at home.

I have a lot of family who are into gun shooting and ownership.

Again I have no problem with them, it's just not one of my primary interests/hobbies.

Edit: I wonder how those shelves rank as far as childproofing. Everyone I know who locks their guns up uses those big heavy duty gun safes that you keep in your basement/garage and open by turning the wheel.
 
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Fonzthecpt1 said:
I've shot a shotgun ,and I'm not against shooting or owning guns, I just don't do it myself. These 007 style shelves make me wish I did though! They would be pretty cool for hiding things other than guns...the only thing is they look fairly easy to remove. If some one recognizes it for what it is then I think it would be easy to steal the entire unit and break into it safely at home.

I have a lot of family who are into gun shooting and ownership.

Again I have no problem with them, it's just not one of my primary interests/hobbies.

Edit: I wonder how those shelves rank as far as childproofing. Everyone I know who locks their guns up uses those big heavy duty gun safes that you keep in your basement/garage and open by turning the wheel.
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Fair enough.

I'm sure I would have found them at some point if I were a kid in a house with those shelves. Maybe not immediately, but weird things catch the eye of kids. I personally got into woodworking when I wad 14, and there is no way I wouldn't have looked at the joints of those shelves. Then you knock, hollow, thoughts, it's thicker than it should be, and voila, a kid figured it out.
 
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http://tacticalwalls.com/product-category/bundles/

Not too expensive actually. Not cheap, but affordable. Shorter shelf with invert (ready to use) is $295 and longer one is one is $395.
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I have no idea how much gun safes cost so I'll have to take your word on their cost and it's comparison to alternatives.

Imagine how cool it would be if you were designing a house and had things like these built in. I've always loved houses that have book case hidden doors and secret rooms/passageways, these would fit right in!
 
Fonzthecpt1 said:
I have no idea how much gun safes cost so I'll have to take your word on their cost and it's comparison to alternatives.

Imagine how cool it would be if you were designing a house and had things like these built in. I've always loved houses that have book case hidden doors and secret rooms/passageways, these would fit right in!
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I have a friend who is in the process converting a tiny closet-hidden ladder that leads to his attic into what will look like a water heater that is on rails so a quick latch and the facade of the tank will slide upward into the attic leaving the stairs exposed. Basically trying to make the attic totally hidden. I asked why, he said "cause I had a old tank and a torch."
 
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