Hey Nik

[Denny Crane]

Where did all the water on the earth come from?

I'm curious to see if you have a theory.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

WELL, IT CAME FROM GOD, DUH

 

[Denny Crane]

WELL, IT CAME FROM GOD, DUH

Maybe if you go back in time far enough

 

[3RA1N1AC]

dont mean to usurp niks glory in this thread, i am sure he will come furiously riding in on a fang wombed hell beast of a froth mouthed stallion to collect said glory, book it

but i had a conversation about water bottles the other day, and how if one is thrown away with the cap on it, which i am sure millions are daily, that that water is now removed from our earths supply for a looooong time until the plastic breaks down and the water is set free, something to think about hrmmmm

 

[Denny Crane]

The hydrogen in every drop of water was made in the big bang.

Water like all matter cannot be created or destroyed. So you may have a raindrop that fell on Jesus in that water bottle.

 

[Ed O]

but i had a conversation about water bottles the other day, and how if one is thrown away with the cap on it, which i am sure millions are daily, that that water is now removed from our earths supply for a looooong time until the plastic breaks down and the water is set free, something to think about hrmmmm

Unless it's punctured.

I am anything BUT a big environmentalist, but bottled water irks me. In our country--and especially in the places I've lived--water is perfectly acceptable right out of the tap, and I see people tooling around with bottled water. It bugs me.

Ed O.

 

[Denny Crane]

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[3RA1N1AC]

The hydrogen in every drop of water was made in the big bang.

Water like all matter cannot be created or destroyed. So you may have a raindrop that fell on Jesus in that water bottle.

right, trapped for eons in a plastic coffin, festering away with the bacteria from some infected tongue ring riddled with tainted semen and blue razz ring pops

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Unless it's punctured.

Ed O.

wait, so the water will stay in the bottle until it isnt in there anymore? do tell

 

[3RA1N1AC]

tap water is great i agree, bottled water corpeviloratisatanons have spent millions convincing everyone that it is bad for you

not to mention buying up water rights and sucking your tap water out of your rivers and streams and selling it back to you at 1000 times the cost of said tap water

 

[3RA1N1AC]

oh fuck i really AM usurping niks glory, get in here and claim what is rightfully yours!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Earth, Salt Water, Fresh Water

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Where did all the water on the earth come from?

rain


As to the taste of tap v. bottled water, it all depends. I like the taste of Portland tap water. But the Vancouver water is often flushed with some chemical that smells and tastes like chlorine. It gets in the clothes when washed... We pretty much have to use bottled water.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Bull Run water is soooooooo good.

 

[Natebishop3]

Aliens.

 

[barfo]

The hydrogen in every drop of water was made in the big bang.

Well... not really. You can make hydrogen out of spare electrons and protons from other stuff. I suppose you could claim that the proton and electron in a hydrogen atom were each made in the big bang, but I'm not sure that's true either.

Water like all matter cannot be created or destroyed.

But it can be changed into something that's not water. And you can create water from hydrogen and oxygen. And it can be destroyed (converted from matter to energy). Of course this is somewhat a matter of semantics (what is matter? what does it mean to be destroyed? what is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?)

So you may have a raindrop that fell on Jesus in that water bottle.

Or you may have a drop of barfo's urine in that water bottle.

barfo

 

[barfo]

rain


As to the taste of tap v. bottled water, it all depends. I like the taste of Portland tap water. But the Vancouver water is often flushed with some chemical that smells and tastes like chlorine. It gets in the clothes when washed... We pretty much have to use bottled water.

Portland's sewage is pumped to Vancouver. And now you know... the rest of the story.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Well... not really. You can make hydrogen out of spare electrons and protons from other stuff. I suppose you could claim that the proton and electron in a hydrogen atom were each made in the big bang, but I'm not sure that's true either.
barfo

Let me know when you've made even one hydrogen atom out of spare electrons and protons.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Reminds me of the old church joke:

Scientist walks up to God and said, "God, we've decided that we no longer need you. We're to the point that we can clone people and do many miraculous things, so why don't you just go on and get lost."

God listened very patiently and kindly to the man and after the scientist was done talking, God said, "Very well, how about this, let's say we have a man making contest." To which the scientist replied, "OK, great!"

But God added, "Now, we're going to do this just like I did back in the old days with Adam."

The scientist said, "Sure, no problem" and bent down and grabbed himself a handful of dirt.

God just looked at him and said, "No, no, no. You go get your own dirt!"

 

[BrianFromWA]

 

[barfo]

Let me know when you've made even one hydrogen atom out of spare electrons and protons.

I'm not personally in the business of doing that, but if you are claiming it can't be done, you are way off base.

barfo

 

[MARIS61]

http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/20...er-come-from-Comet-Hartley-2-offers-new-clues

http://www.ktvu.com/technology/29397420/detail.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-science-comets-idUSTRE7944JI20111005

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Did_Earth_oceans_come_from_comets_999.html

http://news.discovery.com/space/comet-hartley-water-111005.html

 

[Denny Crane]

I am well aware of the theory the water was brought here by comets after the earth was formed.

I was hoping Nik might have a different theory.

Mine is that the water was here the whole time the earth was forming. There is geologic evidence of the oldest rocks being formed under water. That would indicate all the water was pretty much there very early on. So accumulation of oceans' worth of water in so short a time seems unlikely.

And it's pretty obvious that water is common (as ice mostly) throughout the solar system, so why not assume it was everywhere, like where the earth formed?

 

[MARIS61]

I am well aware of the theory the water was brought here by comets after the earth was formed.

I was hoping Nik might have a different theory.

Mine is that the water was here the whole time the earth was forming. There is geologic evidence of the oldest rocks being formed under water. That would indicate all the water was pretty much there very early on. So accumulation of oceans' worth of water in so short a time seems unlikely.

And it's pretty obvious that water is common (as ice mostly) throughout the solar system, so why not assume it was everywhere, like where the earth formed?

Water is extremely rare on planets, as far as our limited knowledge can inform us so far.

When you say "so short a time" I can't imagine what you are referring to.

And you know the adage about when you assume.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I am well aware of the theory the water was brought here by comets after the earth was formed.

I was hoping Nik might have a different theory.

Mine is that the water was here the whole time the earth was forming. There is geologic evidence of the oldest rocks being formed under water. That would indicate all the water was pretty much there very early on. So accumulation of oceans' worth of water in so short a time seems unlikely.

And it's pretty obvious that water is common (as ice mostly) throughout the solar system, so why not assume it was everywhere, like where the earth formed?

I love these crazy theories by the anti environmental protection right.

Water was always here, it will always be here, so we don't need to spend no fucking money on keeping it clean.

 

[Ed O]

Water is extremely rare on planets, as far as our limited knowledge can inform us so far.

Water ice is on Mars and water in various forms exists on Earth. I don't think that can be described as "extremely rare". Further, to buttress Denny's point, water ice exists on several moons in the solar system.

Ed O.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I guess I'm Johnny come lately to the show ... So Denny is this a serious question or am I missing a joke here? Because my answer probably isn't very impressive and really I don't know all that much about astrophysics.

Off hand I'd guess that you "burn" hydrogen in an oxygen rich environment and you'll get H2O, so where did all of the oxygen and hydrogen come from and why is the Earth covered with the byproduct of a these two elements' reaction? FuckifIknow



Millions of oxygen or H2O rich foreign bodies like comets and asteroids impacting the planet billions of years ago? Oxygen-rich space dust coalescing/reacting with clouds of hydrogen? More likely the Flying Spaghetti Monster wiggled his noodly appendage and drained out the holy colander over the face of the Earth.

 

[Denny Crane]

Water ice is on Mars and water in various forms exists on Earth. I don't think that can be described as "extremely rare". Further, to buttress Denny's point, water ice exists on several moons in the solar system.

Ed O.

They say the moon has as much water ice as the earth has water.

There are moons made almost entirely of water ice.

Comets contain water ice.

When you consider there is water or ice at just about any distance from the sun, it sure does seem to be everywhere.

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Portland's sewage is pumped to Vancouver. And now you know... the rest of the story.

barfo

If you're talking about the water we drink, I have to agree. If that's a personal remark, it's funny, but uncalled for.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

does camas (sp?) still smell like shit? i remember going there for some reason and holy fuck