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blue32 said:
There is no point in dialogue because the leftish do not have tolerance for any viewpoint other than their own, that is proven time and time again and is self evident from the riots, twitter, etc.
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How about you be the bigger man, then? I'm not even asking you to accept my point of view, I'm trying to understand yours.
You're coming across as kind of defensive, when clearly you don't need to be. You won! Help me out a little. I'm not rioting either, I'm asking questions. Is that bad?

blue32 said:
Just accept the defeat
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What have I said that indicates I haven't accepted the defeat? Clinton conceded, as she should, given the rules.

blue32 said:
lets judge the President when he takes office and starts doing stuff.
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Do you think that the way a candidate ran is totally irrelevant? So a candidate can say anything and promise anything and we can't judge him/her for that because nothing counts until he's president? But isn't that kind of dangerous? If the way a candidate runs is totally disconnected from the way they'll govern, how are we supposed to know who to vote for?

Besides, isn't picking an administration "doing stuff"?
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
So you're saying you're full of bullshit (aka yourself)?

(Sorry in advance - I only kid here.)
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yep....and now I'm qualified to lead the free world! I build things...decks, gazebos, raised beds, walls, fences....fabulous, terrific stuff, everybody loves it, your going to love it to....a little hairspray and a logo and I'm there!
 
riverman said:
yes, and that's what he said....he never returned her call....what I think is interesting is the possibility of a new party base with four years to prepare for the next chapter in DC
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If he's interested, now is the time. But the Greens have NO infrastructure.
 
blue32 said:
Thank you for your tears, I appreciate them. And no you did not offend me, you assume far to much in your moderator chair. troll on!



This.
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No tears on my part. All I asked was a simple question that you can't seem to answer.

And yes, I'm a troll and anything else you want to call me. That moderator chair gives you the right to say whatever you want to me.

Have fun!
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Do you think that the way a candidate ran is totally irrelevant? So a candidate can say anything and promise anything and we can't judge him/her for that because nothing counts until he's president? But isn't that kind of dangerous? If the way a candidate runs is totally disconnected from the way they'll govern, how are we supposed to know who to vote for?
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The campaign was ran fine IMO. There were a couple of situations where I thought he was overly aggressive on his rhetoric. Which obviously the media and most far left liberals decided to misconstrue as racist, bigotry, etc.

But until he starts to govern, I have nothing to judge him on yet.

His picks so far are fine. I don't see a problem with them. Except the fact that MSM is trying to plant division as usual in each and every choice he makes.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No tears on my part. All I asked was a simple question that you can't seem to answer.

And yes, I'm a troll and anything else you want to call me. That moderator chair gives you the right to say whatever you want to me.

Have fun!
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The article was okay and gave insight into some Trump supporters. I am sorry you think otherwise.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Greens have NO infrastructure
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I agree...same with Libertarians in my view....Bernie and Elizabeth Warren seem to hit the ground running...more people are leaning independent it seems like the Dems could blow it up and reinvent themselves as a more inclusive party.
 
riverman said:
yep....and now I'm qualified to lead the free world! I build things...decks, gazebos, raised beds, walls, fences....fabulous, terrific stuff, everybody loves it, your going to love it to....a little hairspray and a logo and I'm there!
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riverman's construction: if duct tape can hold it, I can build it.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
No tears on my part. All I asked was a simple question that you can't seem to answer.

And yes, I'm a troll and anything else you want to call me. That moderator chair gives you the right to say whatever you want to me.

Have fun!
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I'll start...finding a troll dog was harder than I thought!
troll dog.jpg
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
Trump is a businessman, and as most businessmen do, they hire people smarter than them to do all the work for them.
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I wish it were this simple. He's hired some questionable personalities to "do his work". I hope they focus on business, and not hate/fear mongering.
 
blue32 said:
The campaign was ran fine IMO. There were a couple of situations where I thought he was overly aggressive on his rhetoric. Which obviously the media and most far left liberals decided to misconstrue as racist, bigotry, etc.
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I'm curious what the ones were where he overstepped. Also, if you have the time, I'd like to know one instance that the "MSM" jumped all over that you think was fine, and how you think it was misrepresented.

blue32 said:
His picks so far are fine. I don't see a problem with them. Except the fact that MSM is trying to plant division as usual in each and every choice he makes.
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What is the division and why do you think the "MSM" is trying to plant it? Does this include Fox News?
 
BLAZINGGIANTS said:
That's just it, regarding his words. People overlooked his words because most of us have said worse, and have friends/family/colleagues that have said worse,
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See, people said this about the "grab them by the pussy" remark. I'm being 100% honest that I have never in living memory said anything like that. Am I a prissy do-gooder?

There's also something odd about comments like "murderers and rapists". I've seen people argue adamantly that it's a LIE that he said "Mexicans" are that, that he said "illegal immigrants". Well, literally he said "Mexico is sending" murderers and rapists.

It's just not true that illegal immigrants from Mexico commit crimes at any rate higher than others - unless, of course, you count their very existence in this country. So why did he say it? The obvious answer is that it was a "dog whistle" to people who think that about Mexicans. Are THEY racists? Or is he just clumsy with his words? There are an awful lot of actual racists who really think he speaks for them. It's funny that the people who AGREE about what Trump means are the media and the KKK. What are both of them getting wrong?
 
Rastapopoulos said:
See, people said this about the "grab them by the pussy" remark. I'm being 100% honest that I have never in living memory said anything like that. Am I a prissy do-gooder?

There's also something odd about comments like "murderers and rapists". I've seen people argue adamantly that it's a LIE that he said "Mexicans" are that, that he said "illegal immigrants". Well, literally he said "Mexico is sending" murderers and rapists.

It's just not true that illegal immigrants from Mexico commit crimes at any rate higher than others - unless, of course, you count their very existence in this country. So why did he say it? The obvious answer is that it was a "dog whistle" to people who think that about Mexicans. Are THEY racists? Or is he just clumsy with his words? There are an awful lot of actual racists who really think he speaks for them. It's funny that the people who AGREE about what Trump means are the media and the KKK. What are both of them getting wrong?
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I haven't said anything like "grab them by the pussy", but I can tell you I have said things that are as much, if not more, offensive. Maybe not even in the same realm or in regards to women, but still... I have heard people say worse. Of course, this comment was made in a conversation that he never expected to be leaked. An egomaniac with a ton of money, an elitist, a powerful man because he's made of money, showing his form of sexist braggadocio and bravado. This happens more than we're willing to admit. I'm not condoning it, but I can be honest I've said bad things. 50% of the people that reacted to it reacted to it because he wasn't their candidate. But I believe that 50% of the people that reacted have also said and thought worse.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
See, people said this about the "grab them by the pussy" remark. I'm being 100% honest that I have never in living memory said anything like that. Am I a prissy do-gooder?

There's also something odd about comments like "murderers and rapists". I've seen people argue adamantly that it's a LIE that he said "Mexicans" are that, that he said "illegal immigrants". Well, literally he said "Mexico is sending" murderers and rapists.

It's just not true that illegal immigrants from Mexico commit crimes at any rate higher than others - unless, of course, you count their very existence in this country. So why did he say it? The obvious answer is that it was a "dog whistle" to people who think that about Mexicans. Are THEY racists? Or is he just clumsy with his words? There are an awful lot of actual racists who really think he speaks for them. It's funny that the people who AGREE about what Trump means are the media and the KKK. What are both of them getting wrong?
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Words are like bullets
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Please serve a little more and give some examples.
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Well a couple quick ones.

Decide to kick Assad out of Syria.

Or establish a no-fly zone in Syria like Clinton suggested, and start a new conflict with Russia.

I would not be happy.

Then he could even piss me off.

Such as allow everyone in the Muslim world entry to the US for reasons of humanitarian compassion.

Decide the US should hang a welcome sign on the Nations boarders with directions to sign up for benefits.

Raising Corporate taxes as Hillary said she would do might signal the end.
 
MarAzul said:
Good job. I do see the evolution of Sly here.
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Sly is a great dude for an untrained canine with a Denny Crane dog collar and uncontrollable bladder....he's never bitten me once and I've been in the same elevator with him twice
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Why are you sorry?
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Give it up already Sly. You have had no input on this other than to chastise an article I didn't even write. If you don't like the article move on, other people may find it insightful (or not). Basically your snark was really not warranted and all it did was detract from the thread.

Rastapopoulos said:
I'm curious what the ones were where he overstepped. Also, if you have the time, I'd like to know one instance that the "MSM" jumped all over that you think was fine, and how you think it was misrepresented.
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I feel his initial stance on banning all Muslims into the country was at first campaign suicide because of the politically correct society that we live in today. I would have rather he done something like he did towards the end where he pruned it down to banning/vetting them from terrorist areas.

Also, I believe that his comments on Mexican illegal immigrants (where most people saw racism) could have been more eloquently worded. We all knew he was referring to (context of the entire talk) Mexican illegal immigrants when he was making the "not sending the best" claims, but most MSM outlets decided to say he was racist. See this Liberal Puerto Rican Professor's take on it:
http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/the...ump_im_a_sanders_supporter_and_value_honesty/

All in all, aside from those two small campaign "fuck-ups" (if you will), he ran a pretty damn good campaign sticking to policies that I agree with.
 
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blue32 said:
Give it up already Sly. You have had no input on this other than to chastise an article I didn't even write. If you don't like the article move on, other people may find it insightful (or not). Basically your snark was really not warranted and all it did was detract from the thread.
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Hahahahahahahaha!

I accept your surrender.

All I did was ask you how that article fit what OP was asking and you absolutely lose your shit.

Thanks for playing.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Hahahahahahahaha!

I accept your surrender.

All I did was ask you how that article fit what OP was asking and you absolutely lose your shit.

Thanks for playing.
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I think your mistaken. I am not losing my shit. The article fit fine, it was a good insight into questions he wanted to know.
But continue to think whatever, I'll give you a gold star and a trophy.
 
Types of trump voters:

"haha stupid poor people are going lose their welfare, it makes me happy when stupid poor people are sad."

"my factory got sent overseas and this guy is saying that he will bring it back."

"BLM is as bad as isis!"

"Hillary was going to take my guns away."

"God hates fags."

"Hillary for prison, Benghazi."

"I don't have a retirement account and I'm old, this sucks."

"He will repeal Obamacare, I was paying a lot for it, I'm sure I will be able to afford insurance now."

"There's a war on Christmas."

"They took our jerbs!"

"He's going to lower my taxes."

"Muslims are evil. We should kill terrorists families."

Did I miss any?
 
blue32 said:
I think your mistaken. I am not losing my shit. The article fit fine, it was a good insight into questions he wanted to know.
But continue to think whatever, I'll give you a gold star and a trophy.
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Thanks, I appreciate that.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Types of trump voters:

"haha stupid poor people are going lose their welfare, it makes me happy when stupid poor people are sad."

"my factory got sent overseas and this guy is saying that he will bring it back."

"BLM is as bad as isis!"

"Hillary was going to take my guns away."

"God hates fags."

"Hillary for prison, Benghazi."

"I don't have a retirement account and I'm old, this sucks."

"He will repeal Obamacare, I was paying a lot for it, I'm sure I will be able to afford insurance now."

"There's a war on Christmas."

"They took our jerbs!"

"He's going to lower my taxes."

"Muslims are evil. We should kill terrorists families."

Did I miss any?
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SlyPokerDog is a snarky cunt.
 
3RA1N1AC said:
Types of trump voters:

"haha stupid poor people are going lose their welfare, it makes me happy when stupid poor people are sad."

"my factory got sent overseas and this guy is saying that he will bring it back."

"BLM is as bad as isis!"

"Hillary was going to take my guns away."

"God hates fags."

"Hillary for prison, Benghazi."

"I don't have a retirement account and I'm old, this sucks."

"He will repeal Obamacare, I was paying a lot for it, I'm sure I will be able to afford insurance now."

"There's a war on Christmas."

"They took our jerbs!"

"He's going to lower my taxes."

"Muslims are evil. We should kill terrorists families."

Did I miss any?
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Sounds like your typical Presidential election actually. But you missed the point of the OP.
 
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