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But then, we could say everyone is alt right, eh?

yeah we could. but that would be fucking stupid, wouldnt it?

heres a simple qualifier. because this is quickly devolving into a silly semantics exercise. is bannon alt right?
 
Somewhere the "We must raise minimum wage to $15/hr" are wondering why aren't there any jobs.

well, we havent raised the minimum wage to $15. are you saying its their fault there isnt any jobs somehow? LOL!
 
yeah we could. but that would be fucking stupid, wouldnt it?

heres a simple qualifier. because this is quickly devolving into a silly semantics exercise. is bannon alt right?

All of the people you've mentioned are Patriots.
 
nonsense. theres a shitload of "obama is a muslim dictator" types that arent on stormfront. i mean, wtf are you even saying here.

im not talking about confessed, unabashed, white supremacists. you are.
They're not alt right. The white supremacists are.
 
yeah we could. but that would be fucking stupid, wouldnt it?

heres a simple qualifier. because this is quickly devolving into a silly semantics exercise. is bannon alt right?
No.
 
racist elements of the alt right? i thought the racists WERE the alt right?

lol
From the horse's mouth. Denouncing the racists.

His view is alt right is the anti GOP establishment right.

Beware the media smears.

I'm no fan of Trump or Bannon.

But like with Obama, I hope Trump has success that translates to better quality of life for everyone.
 
So I'm a little confused about something....

Is everyone on the Alt-Right a racist then? Because there is a HUGE difference between someone calling Obama a Muslim, and actively promoting your race as superior to others and dressing up as a Klan member.

Those who can't see the difference are morons. While I'm not personally of the belief that Obama is a Muslim from Kenya, I've spoken to many who believe that he is. They aren't racist; they're just a certain level of stupid. Most just question his place of birth, rather than just believe that he's a Muslim.

Mind you, that's just my experience. And having grown up around Conservative-minded Republicans, Veterans, and been a member of the largest firearms forum on the internet for over 12 years...I feel pretty confident with my certainty on this issue.
 
So I'm a little confused about something....

Is everyone on the Alt-Right a racist then? Because there is a HUGE difference between someone calling Obama a Muslim, and actively promoting your race as superior to others and dressing up as a Klan member.

Those who can't see the difference are morons. While I'm not personally of the belief that Obama is a Muslim from Kenya, I've spoken to many who believe that he is. They aren't racist; they're just a certain level of stupid. Most just question his place of birth, rather than just believe that he's a Muslim.

Mind you, that's just my experience. And having grown up around Conservative-minded Republicans, Veterans, and been a member of the largest firearms forum on the internet for over 12 years...I feel pretty confident with my certainty on this issue.

well hes black. that means hes obviously from africa. thats not racist though.
but no the alt right are not all black haters. or woman haters. or gay haters. some of them just hate jews. :cheers:
 
There's much more to America than an alt right and alt left.....it's like talking about 2 TV stations...racism exists...classism exits...on and on. I sense a lot of "why do you think I'm racist" insecurity reading posts.....we could easily just say the poor vs the ultra rich...which group is racist? Neither and both. It's so damned easy to draw a line in the sand and bitch than to maintain respect...until we respect discussions, it's a game of ping pong that never ends
 
"why do you think I'm racist"

I don't think so river my friend. I have never called some one a racist in this forum. I think denigrating people with pejorative labels is a tactic, not necessarily the result of careful study.
It is a tactic intended to discount a person. And in that sense a rather odd thing to do in a forum you join for the company of others.
 
https://reason.com/archives/2016/11/20/america-called-bullshit-on-saint-hillary

Ever since Donald Trump won the presidential election, all eyes, and wringing hands, have been on the white blob who voted for him. These "loud, illiterate and credulous people," as a sap at Salon brands them, think on an "emotional level." Bill Moyers warned that ours is a "dark age of unreason," in which "low information" folks are lining up behind "The Trump Emotion Machine." Andrew Sullivan said Trump supporters relate to him as a "cult leader fused with the idea of the nation."

What's funny about this is not simply that it's the biggest chattering-class hissy fit of the 21st century so far — and chattering-class hissy fits are always funny. It's that whatever you think of Trump (I'm not a fan) or his supporters (I think they're mostly normal, good people), the fact is they've got nothing on the Clinton cult when it comes to creepy, pious worship of a politician.

Clinton was described in the subhead of a piece for Lena Dunham's Lenny Letter. "Maybe [Clinton] is more than a president," gushed writer Virginia Heffernan. "Maybe she is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself," Nothing this nutty has been said by any of Trump's media fanboys.

"Hillary is Athena," Heffernan continued, adding that "Hillary did everything right in this campaign… She cannot be faulted, criticized, or analyzed for even one more second."

That's a key cry of the Cult of Hillary (as it is among followers of L. Ron Hubbard or devotees of Christ): our gal is beyond criticism, beyond the sober and technical analysis of mere humans. Michael Moore, in his movie Trumpland, looked out at his audience and, with voice breaking, said: "Maybe Hillary could be our Pope Francis."
 

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