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Let's just get this clear:

Far more people preferred her to him. 3 million more. We have to listen to his uneducated gut takes and tweets for four years because of an antiquated, 17th century voting mechanism, not because more people wanted him, liked him, trusted him, or voted for him.

He's a historical accident, one we will come to really regret.
 
bodyman5000 and 1 said:
"Just gonna leave this here" is a passive aggressive accusation made by a holier than thou hypocrite type of POST

The article does prove how ridiculous these conversations really are. Nobody ever changes their mind anyway.
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No it's not unless you are in fear of Rasta's reading interests......Rasta is a cool guy, a bright guy and has every right to share his stuff with us here...you just called him a holier than thou hypocrite for posting a link? That's pretty passive aggressive
 
riverman said:
Wouldn't it just be a better conversation if you just read the article and commented on it? Too little of that in political threads. If you want to use contentious baiting whenever an opposing view is posted, you basically are proving the articles point Denny......look in the mirror? Rasta didn't write that article....we could all just cut and paste our reading preferences here but I use the library for that purpose....I thought it was interesting comparing political allegiance to religious affiliation. You're either going to hell or heaven....right....I don't buy that at all but firmly believe in your right to do just that.
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I did.

It's one of those "all trump supporters are ________" bullshit stories.

I found it to be PROJECTION.

My reply was spot on.
 
Stevenson said:
Let's just get this clear:

Far more people preferred her to him. 3 million more. We have to listen to his uneducated gut takes and tweets for four years because of an antiquated, 17th century voting mechanism, not because more people wanted him, liked him, trusted him, or voted for him.

He's a historical accident, one we will come to really regret.
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Have a tissue.

In the meantime, realize that where Trump went after states that were reliably democratic, he actually won those states.

The popular vote bullshit is just that. Trump didn't campaign in California. He might have won the state if he did (as he did in PA, MI, WI, OH, etc.). At least he would have wiped out Clinton's lopsided victory.

Trump won by 3M votes in all the states but Calfornia and NY.

Your criminal candidate knew the rules, had unlimited money, the best get out the vote machinery in history. And she was so terrible she lost badly. Thank goodness.

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"FOUR MORE....



WEEKS!"

The People really should be standing outside the White House chanting this.
 
riverman said:
No it's not unless you are in fear of Rasta's reading interests......Rasta is a cool guy, a bright guy and has every right to share his stuff with us here...you just called him a holier than thou hypocrite for posting a link? That's pretty passive aggressive
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This has to be the dumbest post I've ever read and I've read most of HCP's 30 something thousand posts.

He doesn't want a discussion and I've never been anything but regular aggressive in my entire life.
 
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bodyman5000 and 1 said:
This has to be the dumbest post I've ever read
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learn to read then Einstein...and you just called Rasta a complete moron.....I'm not PMing anybody for you....take him off ignore and PM him yourself...posting contentious judgements on the internet IS passive aggressive...calling my opinions the dumbest you've ever read is pretty telling....you might want to try talking with people instead of at them sometimes....
 
"Optimism doesn't wait on facts. It deals with prospects.
Pessimism is a waste of time."


I am pleased with our prospects.
 
An optimist may see a light where there is none,
but why must a pessimist always run to blow it out?
 
He might have won California? Riiiight. It is the bluest of blue states. He didn't go there for a reason.
 
Stevenson said:
He might have won California? Riiiight. It is the bluest of blue states. He didn't go there for a reason.
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He didn't go there because he didn't need to win the state.

Given the rules, it was a massive waste of money to advertise in really expensive markets, only to win by 350+ EVs instead of 310.

If it were about nothing but popular vote, he would have gone there.

Clinton may still have won by a million votes, since it's "bluest of blue".

The popular vote logic is clownish, and a reach by losers who can't accept that they lost fair and square.
 
Stevenson said:
He might have won California? Riiiight. It is the bluest of blue states. He didn't go there for a reason.
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Ya never know.....





Denny Crane said:
The popular vote logic is clownish, and a reach by losers who can't accept that they lost fair and square.
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Absolutely. And back when I was a registered Democrat, I actually was pissed Gore lost because of this. How naive of me back then.
 
I agree - the rules are the rules and Trump won by these rules. No one is denying that, but Mr. ad hominem, we "losers" also know that he is an anomaly and the majority of people didn't and don't want him. Deny it all you want. Rationalize and mock that all you want, you're good at that. But that's the fact, Jack.
 
Stevenson said:
But that's the fact, Jack
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No. It is far from fact. A majority of the people in enough states voted Trump to make him President.
In the other states many people wanted him also but they didn't vote because it wouldn't make a difference.
So the only Fact you actually know is, Trump won the election in enough states to make him President. Simple fact, no jack.
 
Stevenson said:
I agree - the rules are the rules and Trump won by these rules. No one is denying that, but Mr. ad hominem, we "losers" also know that he is an anomaly and the majority of people didn't and don't want him. Deny it all you want. Rationalize and mock that all you want, you're good at that. But that's the fact, Jack.
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Bill Clinton won twice without a majority. I don't think anyone felt he was somehow illegitimate because of that. That he would have lost without Perot siphoning a huge % of the vote from Clinton's opponents is what it is. Perot had every right to run.

I will mock those who are stunningly stupid about losing. Be it the moron Hollywood types who promised to leave, to the media that had so much invested in the criminal loser.

The majority of people didn't want the crooked loser, either.
 
Yes I to voted Trump!
I believe he has a chance to be a great president!
Hillary was a awful candidate! Totally corrupt! needs to at least be in front of a independent grand Jury!
Server outside the government system totally exposed America's secrets (can not over emphasis how damaging this probably was) and could have been, it is possible people died because they were exposed!

Corrupt media helped doom Clinton chances, as it came out how much they have helped change or manipulate the news,
Most things bad for Clinton or the country were covered up and not reported or slanted so far to the left.
Media talks up a side of this country that I and many people could not agree with.
Why is it wrong to want voter id so at least prove you are eligible to vote, the person that somehow manages to vote more than once is wrong but not likely to change elections! Millions of illegals should not be encourage (Obama & Clinton) to vote.
Immigration needed reform for years, most citizens want all incoming illegals to stop coming in to US.
Immigrants are part of this country!
Come thru the front door!
Should not be able to receive free benefits from government until been here for a couple years anyway.
America is a very tolerant nation but have been taken advantage of by free loaders. all races.
Close down the border, great big wall would be nice but the main thing would be to any means available to shut it down. Use the technology available to stop all crossing by people, drugs, guns, money.

This Country voted for a black pres, we are not racist, the media and Obama pushed a narrative to get Clinton elected and now their is more racism in this country than in many years, it is to bad Obama was bad for this country! To bad he could have made a real difference. ( We wanted to give him a chance.)
To bad he is a Muslin instead of a Christian. A whole lot of Muslims are great people in this country, but!!! their seems to be something wrong with some, maybe Sharia law. People that stand behind terrorist activities should not be allowed in our country.
The Snowflakes as they are called seem to lost the ability to talk with out all the isms, hard to have a conversation when they refuse to listen. All the protesting for the most part were from the Dem side and the media covered it up or blamed on Trump. Was any of the violent protest GOP?
OK, Trump good qualities buisness man that made a whole lot of money, may understand a way to get this country on the move again. Honestly the last 15 years or so it seems we have changed from a working group to people that want others to work and they live for free because we can afford it.
I think I can spend the money I make better than any Govt can.
Is Trump perfect?
No one is, of the Gop he won out over, none of them could have won over team Clinton. Bernie possibly had a chance but the Dems cheated and got caught, Bernie was cheated than paid a l0t of money to go away!
 
How hilarious that Crook blames the Truth for her loss. As if the Truth is the enemy.

I think most of the GOP 17 candidates may have beaten her.
 
Trump is not a real GOP, the way things in this country are a true GOP could not get elected, same as someone so far left has little chance to ever get elected.
We as Americans may need more parties to choose from and split the vote more ways, so far libertarians got some good ideas, Gary J. was the wrong candidate, Jill was lining her pockets, recount.
Will Trump screw it up maybe, he is 70 and works harder than any and all politicians out there. Give him a chance and in 4 years we will judge him also.

Alright I am all over the board but I passionately dislike Clinton and Obama and am optimistic that Trump will bring some respect to this country.

Sorry about all over the board

I respect people like MAGS to stand up for what he believes
 
Aly said:
Alright I am all over the board but I passionately dislike Clinton and Obama and am optimistic that Trump will bring some respect to this country.
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Do you mean "I respect you because I think you're crazy and you have nuclear weapons" or do you mean "I respect you because you have demonstrated calm intelligent leadership"? Because I can tell you that the vast majority of people all over the world think that Trump is a clown and that Americans are idiots for electing him. (Please, Americans who have recently traveled abroad, correct me if I'm wrong.) And the parts of the world who are happy to see Trump elected don't respect him either - they just think he'll let them do what they want to do.

Of all the things to be optimistic about under a Trump administration, I'd say that's one of the ones that has the very least possibility of happening.

(Well: if Trump doesn't actually start a war, then maybe there will be an uptick from the current record low opinion. Also it would help if someone took away his Twitter.)
 
Rastapopoulos said:
Trump was right about one thing: I'm already tired of all the "winning."
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All those jobs are going to be good paying ones and will help expand the middle class.

I get you want to root against jobs and expanding the middle class, but I think it's deplorable.
 
riverman said:
learn to read then Einstein...and you just called Rasta a complete moron.....I'm not PMing anybody for you....take him off ignore and PM him yourself...posting contentious judgements on the internet IS passive aggressive...calling my opinions the dumbest you've ever read is pretty telling....you might want to try talking with people instead of at them sometimes....
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Hahahah, just came back for this. THAT is passive aggressive, did it to make a point. I don't have anyone on ignore, you learn to read.

HE has everyone not in his Play-Doh circle on ignore, he'd have Denny on ignore too if he could. Tell me one reason to put Denny on ignore other than he disagrees with him. I dare you
 
Denny Crane said:
All those jobs are going to be good paying ones and will help expand the middle class.

I get you want to root against jobs and expanding the middle class, but I think it's deplorable.
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It's wonderful that you have such a clear vision of the future, and can tell (a) that this wouldn't have happened without Trump, (b) that he hasn't had to commit to anything that is not in our interests to get this assurance, and (c) that this really is a solid win for the US and won't undercut other businesses already employing people in the US (y'know, in good Capitalist fashion).

But all that aside - I was just saying that Trump was right! Jeez, some people are never happy.

(Now I'm deplorable am I required to get a cartoon frog in my profile pic? That seems to be the rule.)
 
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