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Sounds like Vladimir Putin is voicing these concerns. :devilwink:

In 2007, top Clinton donors bailed on her for Obama. Many of them said the Clintons are "ethically challenged" or "play loose with the truth."

I think she's done because the democrats will find another candidate to throw their support behind.
 
2 million dead in Iraq, $3 trillion war debt, our rights to privacy and habeas corpus thrown down the drain, a giant tax cut for the rich, the biggest depression since the 1930s, then Democratic presidents are overwhelmingly elected (not just barely, as in 2000) and it's time for...teensy weensy little Clinton scandals to dominate the media, like Benghazi.

Thanks Obama!
 
In 2007, top Clinton donors bailed on her for Obama. Many of them said the Clintons are "ethically challenged" or "play loose with the truth."

I think she's done because the democrats will find another candidate to throw their support behind.
Sounds like every politician ever...
 
For the 1%.
Yes and no. Unemployment numbers are great and other indicators, but it is true that the top is doing loads better while the masses are inching forward. But, my point is saying this is that the recovery seems to be in full swing, and if that continues I think it will have a greater impact than the trumped up scandals we've seen so far.

I'm not a Hillary fan, but I think these types of scandals so early on will actually help her in the long run. There will be scandal fatigue because the republicans try and turn everything into some sort of issuegate. If none of the scandals rise real to importance than fatigue will settle in and there will be backlash against the republicans for pushing such innocuous themes. It will be great for pandering to the republican and anti-Hillary base, but won't do much positive for swinging other voters except over time make borderline republicans repulsed by the petty nature of their candidates and party.

I have no evidence to support my claim. This is just my opinion of how these scandals will be viewed over time.
 
Yes and no. Unemployment numbers are great and other indicators, but it is true that the top is doing loads better while the masses are inching forward. But, my point is saying this is that the recovery seems to be in full swing, and if that continues I think it will have a greater impact than the trumped up scandals we've seen so far.

I'm not a Hillary fan, but I think these types of scandals so early on will actually help her in the long run. There will be scandal fatigue because the republicans try and turn everything into some sort of issuegate. If none of the scandals rise real to importance than fatigue will settle in and there will be backlash against the republicans for pushing such innocuous themes. It will be great for pandering to the republican and anti-Hillary base, but won't do much positive for swinging other voters except over time make borderline republicans repulsed by the petty nature of their candidates and party.

I have no evidence to support my claim. This is just my opinion of how these scandals will be viewed over time.

Unemployment numbers aren't great. The workforce shrunk so much due to people unable to get a job and no longer trying, they're not counted.

Unemployment for minorities is ridiculously high.

Income growth is stagnant at best.

http://www.brookings.edu/research/p...me-growth-decline-economic-prosperity-shapiro
 
Thank God; any candidate everyone agrees so much on is usually much weaker than they appear.
 
But who's this Ben Ghazi guy?

He's the twin brother to Apathy.
But then, like Hillary says, "Who Cares?"


Really weird through, three people killed at Benghazi, including the only US Ambassador to be killed in decades
and the Secretary of State does not send one email to anyone about the issue? If she didn't get an email about the event, how the hell did she find out that it was the bogus video she blamed the whole thing on?

Geez, you would think she sent an email to someone to get it verified?

Nothing!

Oh I forgot, Who Cares! Apathy is in charge.
 
Ha! Funny when I think back on it. I was sort of glad Obama beat Hillary out in 2008. Now I know that he is the worst President to hold that office during my life time, but I am not sorry we
we did not get Hillary instead.

The bull shit story this woman told us about the video that cause the Benghazi event is disgusting. Only to be topped by her "Who Cares?" when being questioned about Benghazi.
Now she flagrantly uses private email accounts and declares they will remain private with a strait face.

Mind boggling that there is a countryman left that would vote for more of this shit from this disgusting woman.
 
Ha! Funny when I think back on it. I was sort of glad Obama beat Hillary out in 2008. Now I know that he is the worst President to hold that office during my life time, but I am not sorry we
we did not get Hillary instead.

The bull shit story this woman told us about the video that cause the Benghazi event is disgusting. Only to be topped by her "Who Cares?" when being questioned about Benghazi.
Now she flagrantly uses private email accounts and declares they will remain private with a strait face.

Mind boggling that there is a countryman left that would vote for more of this shit from this disgusting woman.

Thanks for illustrating my point that its hard to take anything seriously from the anti Hillary anti Obama boy who cried wolf camps. When you hate someone its easy to find justification to your beliefs, even if you are just making shit up.
 
making shit up

What do you think I made up? No emails from Madam Secretary during the whole Benghazi fiasco? Or she said she will keep every thing on her server private?
Or maybe the "Who Cares"?
I don't suppose it is impossible that she sent no emails to anyone during the Benghazi attack, hell, zero email matches zero help, and zero forethought on the matter.
Pretty much what one should expect from her. I can recall a Secretary of State having a couple of Destroyers standby to take out diplomats when and if the time came
in previous time. This lady did not have the whit to do a damn thing before or during the attack. Cooked up a tall tale quickly afterward though, about some figgin video.
 
I didn't know that you, too, get your political insights from Hollywood Reporter. We are brothers!
 
You get your news and "facts" from the movies.

I don't.
 
What do you think I made up? No emails from Madam Secretary during the whole Benghazi fiasco? Or she said she will keep every thing on her server private?
Or maybe the "Who Cares"?
I don't suppose it is impossible that she sent no emails to anyone during the Benghazi attack, hell, zero email matches zero help, and zero forethought on the matter.
Pretty much what one should expect from her. I can recall a Secretary of State having a couple of Destroyers standby to take out diplomats when and if the time came
in previous time. This lady did not have the whit to do a damn thing before or during the attack. Cooked up a tall tale quickly afterward though, about some figgin video.

I heard she is a muslim, you should check her birth certificate.
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-crisis-hollywood-democrats-see-780450

Hillary in Crisis: Hollywood Democrats See Elizabeth Warren as Plan B
I would be excited to if Warren ran. I don't know quite enough yet, so there would be a big learning phase before I committed my vote to her, but I have loved what limited things I have seen from her so far. I have zero enthuthiasm for Clinton, but would have great hope as I listened to what Warren proposed.
 
Hold your nose and vote for someone you don't want to win.

What an awful state "democracy" is in.
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-crisis-hollywood-democrats-see-780450

Hillary in Crisis: Hollywood Democrats See Elizabeth Warren as Plan B
BARF!

"Warren falsely claimed Native American heritage when applying to teach at both the University of Pennsylvania Law School and Harvard Law School, and Harvard later cited her presence on staff as evidence of its faculty’s diversity. Warren claimed that she knew about her family’s alleged Indian heritage because a relative told her that her “papaw” had “high cheekbones, like all of the Indians do."
 
I'll vote for Hillary on sheer principle of pissing Denny off!

*paid for by the committee to promote hair pulling and trolling...
 
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hillary-crisis-hollywood-democrats-see-780450

Hillary in Crisis: Hollywood Democrats See Elizabeth Warren as Plan B

Don't rule out Bernie Sanders as a D or I, or even a Sanders/Warren ticket.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/are-dem...ough-to-support-bernie-sanders-for-president/

Where he stands on the issues
Sanders would need to be an effective leader to implement his ambitious, left-leaning agenda. For instance, President Obama hasn't been able to enact comprehensive tax reforms, but Sanders says it's necessary to help pay for infrastructure.

"We are losing about $100 billion every single year because corporations and wealthy people are stashing their money in the Cayman Islands and elsewhere," he said Monday. "Real tax reform can generate a significant sum of money which should be used for infrastructure and education."

Jobs and the economy

To address the issue that Americans are most concerned with -- jobs and the economy -- Sanders recently introduced a bill, along with Sen. Barbara Mikulski, D-Maryland, to spend $1 trillion on infrastructure.

"We need a major federal jobs program to put millions of Americans back to work," Sanders said at Brookings. "The fastest way to do that is to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, our roads, bridges, water systems, wastewater plants, airports, railroads and schools... A $1 trillion investment in infrastructure could support 13 million decent-paying jobs and make our country more efficient, productive and safer."

The senator has also said the minimum wage should be raised over a period of years to at least $15 an hour, and he has called for federal legislation to ensure overtime pay and equal pay for men and women.

Education

While President Obama has proposed making two years of community college free, Sanders said Monday, "We have got to go further."

"What we have got to learn is that in countries like Germany, Scandinavia, many parts of the world, people who are competing against us, they are smart enough to understand that the future of their countries depends on the education their young people get," he said. We have got to learn that lesson. Free public education does not have to end at high school."

Health care

Sanders has commended the "modest success" of the Affordable Care Act, but he is an strident supporter of single-payer health care systems, or what's known in the U.S. as "Medicare for all."

"We have got to grapple," he said, "with the fact that we remain the only country, major country, without a national health care program."

Social Security

While lawmakers often talk about ways to curtail spending on this large government program, Sanders wants to expand Social Security benefits.

"In my view, at a time when senior poverty is increasing, when we have millions of seniors -- and I meet them in Vermont all the time -- people are trying to get by on $12,000, $14,000 a year," he said. "We should not be about cutting Social Security benefits, we should be about expanding those benefits."

To pay for that expansion, he proposes lifting the income cap on Social Security taxes.

Foreign policy

With respect to defeating ISIS, Sanders said Monday that he doesn't want to see "endless war" in the Middle East. "And, having said that, you know, I don't have any magical solution, but I think at the heart of it has got to be regional activity on the countries who are most impacted by ISIS," he said, referencing Saudi Arabia's large defense budget.

"But, you know, I think it's fair to say I do not disagree with the air attacks that the United States is coordinating," he said. "What I just don't want to see is a ground presence and never ending war."
 
I don't want any of what he or Warren are selling.
 
I heard she is a muslim, you should check her birth certificate.
How did you learn to stick your head up your ass and ignore the deceit designed for you to cover for incompetence?
 
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I would be excited to if Warren ran. I don't know quite enough yet, so there would be a big learning phase before I committed my vote to her, but I have loved what limited things I have seen from her so far. I have zero enthuthiasm for Clinton, but would have great hope as I listened to what Warren proposed.

Nice to hear you don't go for Hillary, but why don't you tell us exactly why you like Warren. What exactly is she selling that you like? The minority heart string tug was pretty ridiculous,
being a Cherokee with high check bones and all. Doesn't that set off an alarm of some kind?
 

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