Hillary is presumptive democratic nominee (2 Viewers)

[Denny Crane]

Most people who call themselves atheists just don't believe in a god, they don't definitively believe there is no god, or no possibility of a god. Raising kids with no religion is not forcing a belief down their throat because it's simply a lack of belief, which is the rational default view on the matter.

This.

 

[barfo]

I am really having a hard time with this election. With anything in life, I try to look at the broad picture. Some of you will scoff at that notion because of some of my posts, but it's true.

I am definitely socially liberal, and definitely everything else conservative. To me, Hillary would destroy this country financially. Our military would suffer, the handouts would increase, Obamacare would continue...you know, yuck. On the other hand, Trump would do more damage to peace within the people of the US than Obama did. His foreign policy scares the shit out of me and I think he is too hell bent on overturning everything Obama did just to spite him.

Looks like another write in vote for Gary Johnson. While I don't agree 100% with him, his views mostly reflect mine. I will be there to help him get his 15%

You won't have to write him in, Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states, as I understand it.

All you have to do is go into the voting booth, find your Johnson, and pull it.

barfo

 

[Mediocre Man]

You won't have to write him in, Johnson will be on the ballot in all 50 states, as I understand it.

All you have to do is go into the voting booth, find your Johnson, and pull it.

barfo

With the amount of times that's happened in my lifetime, he should win by a land slide.

 

[Denny Crane]

Speaking of Johnson...

When he's included in the polls, he takes 5.1% from Hiliar and 3% from Trump.

 

[barfo]

“At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA Today Network, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.”

barfo

 

[MarAzul]

So Obama endorses Hillary. Does than mean he signals the FBI to back off?

 

[Shaboid]

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Thats agnostic

Agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive terms. Agnostic refers to knowledge, atheist refers to (lack of) belief. So you can be both agnostic and religious or agnostic and atheist. Most atheists are also agnostic. You may disagree with me, but from my experience in real life and on the internet that is absolutely what the majority of self proclaimed atheists believe.

 

[Denny Crane]

If I saw a voice coming from a burning bush, I would first think it was some sort of trick. Only after all avenues of legitimate explanations exhausted would I consider something supernatural or paranormal. Even then, I'd assume there's a better answer that I just can't figure out. It would take a significant deliberate act that only a god could do to make me believe. After all, the bar is set high.

That's the extent of my agnosticism. I am quite confident there is no such thing.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

If I saw a voice coming from a burning bush, I would first think it was some sort of trick. Only after all avenues of legitimate explanations exhausted would I consider something supernatural or paranormal. Even then, I'd assume there's a better answer that I just can't figure out. It would take a significant deliberate act that only a god could do to make me believe. After all, the bar is set high.

That's the extent of my agnosticism. I am quite confident there is no such thing.

Saul was like that. He killed christians he hated them so much and after getting knocked off his horse and temporarily blinded he went on to be the greatest preacher in history and pen a major portion of the new testament. When faced with crucifiction he begged to be crucified upsidedown because he was not worthy to die the same way as jesus. He must have hit his head hard.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Agnostic and atheist are not mutually exclusive terms. Agnostic refers to knowledge, atheist refers to (lack of) belief. So you can be both agnostic and religious or agnostic and atheist. Most atheists are also agnostic. You may disagree with me, but from my experience in real life and on the internet that is absolutely what the majority of self proclaimed atheists believe.

Athiest is a belief that there is no god while agnostic is more of a cop out for im too lazy to do any research so i just say i dont believe anything.

 

[Denny Crane]

Saul was like that. He killed christians he hated them so much and after getting knocked off his horse and temporarily blinded he went on to be the greatest preacher in history and pen a major portion of the new testament. When faced with crucifiction he begged to be crucified upsidedown because he was not worthy to die the same way as jesus. He must have hit his head hard.

He must have hit his head hard, or maybe he had syphillus in the brain. Plenty of reasonable explanations.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

He must have hit his head hard, or maybe he had syphillus in the brain. Plenty of reasonable explanations.

That's what makes me lol about "athiests" any explination but God! You sound just like a religious nut case. It's like when certain posters stererype christians then get upset that their race or sexual prefence is stereotyped. Irony, i love it.

 

[Denny Crane]

That's what makes me lol about "athiests" any explination but God! You sound just like a religious nut case. It's like when certain posters stererype christians then get upset that their race or sexual prefence is stereotyped. Irony, i love it.

Any explanation but god has been working more and more. I know I don't feel anything missing in my life for not believing. Not at all.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

He must have hit his head hard, or maybe he had syphillus in the brain. Plenty of reasonable explanations.

I got tired of debating it a while ago really. They always come down to a stalemate. Pride/ego vs. Gospel

Bible Christianity knows nothing of "religion" for all religions teach a means of "self-redemption" and I'll bet you believe either: 1.) you need no redemption or 2.) if you admit you have need you will earn it through the balance of the accounting of your moral "good" works against your bad deeds "later"...
Biblical Christianity in contrast points the fallen sinner to his only means of redemption The Person of The Lord Jesus Christ and His Gospel.
Repent of you errant beliefs or You will perish eternally in the pride of your ignorance, and denial of your condition
Isaiah 1:18King James Version (KJV)
18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

I love this verse. Let us reason. Something an athiest never wants to do because the goal is never to investigate, but to stroke the ego and get a "win"

 

[Denny Crane]

I love to sin. I do it whenever I can

Twice on Sundays!

 

[rasheedfan2005]

Any explanation but god has been working more and more. I know I don't feel anything missing in my life for not believing. Not at all.

I actually hope you are right, but have been convinced otherwise.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I love to sin. I do it whenever I can

Twice on Sundays!

Same, but probably far more.

 

[Denny Crane]

I'm fine with you being religious. If it keeps you from shooting up the liquor store, more power to you.

Unless you take it to heart to harm others, using some twisted and out of context excerpt.

 

[e_blazer]

I love to sin. I do it whenever I can

Twice on Sundays!

I'd point out that this is a totally nonsensical statement for an avowed atheist.

Just sayin'.

 

[MarAzul]

the goal is never to investigate, but to stroke the ego and get a "win"

Nice catch sheedfan!

 

[Denny Crane]

I'd point out that this is a totally nonsensical statement for an avowed atheist.

Just sayin'.

I used the word "sin" for your benefit. I do it deliberately and have no shame about it.

 

[MarAzul]

I used the word "sin" for your benefit. I do it deliberately and have no shame about it.

You sin without remorse? What sort of moral depravity do you prefer?

 

[e_blazer]

I used the word "sin" for your benefit. I do it deliberately and have no shame about it.

Well, thank you. Nice of you to think of me when formulating your response.

 

[barfo]

You sin without remorse? What sort of moral depravity do you prefer?

This sort, obviously.

barfo

 

[crandc]

I am constantly astonished at the illogic of using the Bible to prove that the Bible is true.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I'm fine with you being religious. If it keeps you from shooting up the liquor store, more power to you.

Unless you take it to heart to harm others, using some twisted and out of context excerpt.

Im not religious, quite the contrary.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

I am constantly astonished at the illogic of using the Bible to prove that the Bible is true.

What is truth?

 

[Denny Crane]

You sin without remorse? What sort of moral depravity do you prefer?

I don't believe in any god. Isn't that a sin?

 

[Denny Crane]

I am constantly astonished at the illogic of using the Bible to prove that the Bible is true.

If religious believers accepted reason, there wouldn't be any religious believers