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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/21/us/politics/jeb-bush.html?_r=1

No single candidacy this year fell so monumentally short of its original expectations. It began with an aura of inevitability that masked deep problems, from Mr. Bush himself, a clunky candidate in a field of gifted performers, to the rightward drift of the Republican Partysince Mr. Bush’s time as a consensus conservative in Florida.
 
I still have not decided who I am going to vote for.
But I won’t lie, I am glad to see Cruz dropped to 3rd in S. Carolina. He has serious credibility issues.
 
I fix wrecked cars. If I wasn't allowed to fix them anymore, should my wife or brother fix one for you?

My brother is a medical lab tech of some sort and my wife was a hairdresser.

You pick one and your car gets fucked up, it's on you.
 
I would not have voted for Jeb. However, I believe he was the most qualified Republican candidate. Jeb did not lose. What cost him votes was being related to George H. & George W..

I don’t want another Bush in the White House, and I also do not want another Clinton in the White House.

At this point, I still do not see a good candidate to vote for, from either party.
 
I really didn't think Bush would drop out today. Shows what I know.

Very surprised that Kasich is Last Governor Standing.

Still a lot of fun to be had, but the field is getting narrower.

barfo
 
barfo said:
I really didn't think Bush would drop out today. Shows what I know.

Very surprised that Kasich is Last Governor Standing.

Still a lot of fun to be had, but the field is getting narrower.

barfo
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Trump is running out of candidates to insult.
 
If Rubio ends up the nominee, it's going to be fun hearing all the republicans who said Obama wasn't qualified to be president tell us how Rubio is unquestionably qualified to be president.

And, of course, all the democrats who said Obama was qualified, saying that Rubio is not qualified...

barfo
 
Is Trump preparing an exit strategy? There are clues that he may no longer believe he can win the Republican nomination.

Two clues have come in the last couple of days. The first clue that caught my attention was when he mentioned in an interview, “whoever becomes president”. That phrase is not Trump like. He always takes the positive aggressive stance, “when I become president”.

The second clue came yesterday when he mentioned in another interview that he would not be surprised if he lost the nomination. He reinforced my theory.

My predication:
As the number of Republican candidates dwindles, the number of Trump supporters will not increase. There is evidence he may have lost some of his support already. Maybe pissing off the Catholics and Mexicans was not a good idea.

As candidates quit the race, at some point their support will go to the remaining candidates. I believe most of that support will consolidate among the non-Trump candidates. Trump has his strong supporters, but, that number will not grow.

When the Republican race gets down to Trump and one other candidate, the remaining candidate will win, and it will not even be close. Trump realizes this, and is preparing a soft landing to save face.
 
Well, the choice is down to clown, creep, or empty suit.

I'm betting on empty suit.

barfo
 
JFizzleRaider said:
This election will come down to the Indys.

Theyll be torn between Clinton and trump.

Put bern, Rubio or cruz up, and those guys are all wayyyyy too far to their side.
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Yeah I think if it's Trump v Bern, Berns best case scenario is gonna be 251 electoral votes, worst case 206.

Rubio is more moderate so I think he'd actually stand a chance in a race against the Hilldog or Bern.

Cruz would get slaughtered against any and all candidates likely.
 
oldfisherman said:
do not see a good candidate to vote for
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Hell, I do! It is all fine now, anyone but Clinton.
Trump is my first choice.

I like his style. Years ago, John Wayne said to a side kick in some flick, Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness! No doubt it was intended to be a funny line. Funny until you see your American President apologize his ass off. Trump will not do this shit.

When he says he will get along fine with Putin, I believe him. I don't need to know exactly how, because I know I could, and I see Trump getting along just fine with Putin because I am sure it is possible and probable for a man that is confident.

When Trump says he will make America great again, I believe he will. I do not need to know how he will do it, because when we have an American President that does not apologize for us, has faith in our people, and has the attitude to put America first, we will do it. This is pretty much the way it worked under Ronald Reagan. Trump does not have the charisma of Reagan but he does have the attitude. A far better deal than we have had in years.
 
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/donald-trump-is-doomed-andor-invincible/


natesilver: Trump’s chances of winning the nomination are exactly 7.1459814514128405 percent. Just kidding. I’m somewhere in the high single digits.

micah: And on Sept. 1?

natesilver: Well, I put his chances at 2 percent in that “stages of doom” article, which lays out a procedure for how you’d calculate them. If he has cleared Stage 1, his chances would double, to 4 percent.

...

natesilver: Yeah. I’m more of a Trump skeptic than a Party Decides truther. Maybe the Republican establishment is partly but not entirely broken, and that results in a messy nomination process, but Trump still doesn’t win. About the only thing the Republican establishment agrees upon is that it doesn’t want to nominate Trump.

There’s also this: “Mr. Trump spent more on hats and T-shirts — about $678,000 — than he did on field staff and offices in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina, where his expenses totaled just $353,363.”

:lol:
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/how-donald-trump-defeats-hillary-clinton-217868

The rest of Trump’s path to general-election victory, as laid out to POLITICO by pollsters, his campaign and his former advisers, looks like this: After winning the nomination on the first ballot, Trump unifies the party he has fractured behind him and reinvents himself as a pragmatic businessman and family man at the Republican National Convention. News of small-scale terror plots on American soil, foiled or successful, keep voters in a state of anxiety. Trump minimizes his losses with Hispanics by running Spanish-language ads highlighting his support for a strong military and take-charge entrepreneurial attitude, especially in the Miami and Orlando media markets. He draws the starkest possible outsider-insider contrast with Hillary Clinton and successfully tars her with her husband’s sexual history.

If he does all that, holds Mitt Romney’s states, and drives extraordinary levels of working-class white voter turnout in the suburbs and exurbs of Ohio and Virginia, as well as in the Florida panhandle and Jacksonville, he can flip those three Obama states and rack up 266 electoral votes. Winning any one of Iowa, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Nevada or New Mexico would put him over the top and make Donald John Trump the 45th president of the United States.

(Of course this assumes Hillary wins most of the states Obama won. Start with the states W won, and the story is much different)
 
Denny Crane said:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/how-donald-trump-defeats-hillary-clinton-217868

Trump minimizes his losses with Hispanics by running Spanish-language ads highlighting his support for a strong military
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If Trump tries to sell the Mexicans on a stronger military to get some of their votes, he is making a huge mistake. Mexicans are a very peace loving people. Mexico has one of the longest runs of peace in the world.

The last war Mexico fought ended in 1917, almost 100 years ago. The last war Mexico participated in was WWII. They sent a few troops to the Pacific, however, the number was so small, I can not find it. The only mention is Mexican airplanes in the Philippines. Their missions included reconnaissance, air support, airmail and mapmaking, but no mention of actual combat..

All of the combat wars in the entire history of Mexico were either fought over the boundaries of their country with the USA, or, for their independence, first from Spain, and then from France.
 
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I'm shocked at how Hispanics here oppose amnesty. Trump's ugly stance on immigration might have unexpected appeal.
 
I still think Trump is a master marketer, selling the GOP right what it wants to hear. His views not long ago were so different. But, that said, I have to admit he is a gifted orator and a natural politician, for good and ill.
 
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and successfully tars her with her husband’s sexual history.
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In the 1990s, every time Republicans ratcheted up news coverage of that, Clinton's poll numbers jumped up. People want looser sexual rules and love him for that. Republicans never figured that out.
 
jlprk said:
In the 1990s, every time Republicans ratcheted up news coverage of that, Clinton's poll numbers jumped up. People want looser sexual rules and love him for that. Republicans never figured that out.
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And then the people elected W over Gore. Yes, W beat Gore no matter how much you protest you sore loserman.

Clinton Fatigue was what they called it.
 
MarAzul said:
Hell, I do! It is all fine now, anyone but Clinton.
Trump is my first choice.

I like his style. Years ago, John Wayne said to a side kick in some flick, Never apologize, it's a sign of weakness! No doubt it was intended to be a funny line. Funny until you see your American President apologize his ass off. Trump will not do this shit.

When he says he will get along fine with Putin, I believe him. I don't need to know exactly how, because I know I could, and I see Trump getting along just fine with Putin because I am sure it is possible and probable for a man that is confident.

When Trump says he will make America great again, I believe he will. I do not need to know how he will do it, because when we have an American President that does not apologize for us, has faith in our people, and has the attitude to put America first, we will do it. This is pretty much the way it worked under Ronald Reagan. Trump does not have the charisma of Reagan but he does have the attitude. A far better deal than we have had in years.
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"Planned Parenthood does wonderful things."

- Donald Trump
 
Denny Crane said:
And then the people elected W over Gore. Yes, W beat Gore no matter how much you protest you sore loserman.

Clinton Fatigue was what they called it.
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That's just bullshit and you know it.

The SCOTUS elected Bush v Gore. Because that MF cheated in both elections he "won"....
 
dviss1 said:
That's just bullshit and you know it.

The SCOTUS elected Bush v Gore. Because that MF cheated in both elections he "won"....
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Bullshit. No recount ever had Gore ahead in Florida. He didn't win, period.

The court ruled 7-2 that Gore was trying to steal the election. 5-4 that starting a proper recount was too late. That recount would have shown W won.
 
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