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-Denny Crane, too.

It just shouldn't be funded with taxpayer dollars. I'd donate.

Taxpayers don't pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood charges for those. There are plenty of things that should be defunded before Planned Parenthood. Republicans know that taxpayers don't pay for abortions. They simply want to defund Planned Parenthood because it helps poor black people.

Yes I said it...
 
Bullshit. No recount ever had Gore ahead in Florida. He didn't win, period.

The court ruled 7-2 that Gore was trying to steal the election. 5-4 that starting a proper recount was too late. That recount would have shown W won.

Wow... there was no such ruling that Gore was trying to steal the election... there should have been a recount and you know it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.
The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

In spite of the findings, no legal challenge to the Florida result is possible in the light of the US supreme court's 5-4 ruling in December to hand the state to Mr Bush. But the revelations will continue to cast a cloud, to put it mildly, over the democratic legitimacy of Mr Bush's election.

Some 56,000 so-called "overvotes" were examined in the Washington Post survey. All of these ballot papers were ruled to be invalid votes on November 7 because they contained two or more punched holes in the presidential section of the ballot. Twelve Florida counties used voting machines where voting was by punch cards in this way, and eight of them participated in the survey: Broward, Highlands, Hillsborough, Marion, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Pasco and Pinellas. None of the ballot papers in the survey formed part of any official count or recount.

The research shows that 45,608 of the 56,000 ballot papers (87% of the total) contained votes for Mr Gore, compared with 17,098 containing votes for Mr Bush (33%). In 1,367 cases, voters punched every hole except that for Mr Bush.

In cases where the voters cast invalid "overvotes" in the presidential election, but then cast valid votes in the US senate contest lower down on the same ballot, 70% voted Democrat, Mr Gore's party, and only 24% voted Republican.

The disproportion was especially dramatic in Palm Beach, whose butterfly ballot paper interleaved two lists of candidates in such a way as to show Mr Gore's name second on the ballot paper, but to require the voter to punch the third hole to record a vote for him.

Though no absolute conclusions can be drawn from the overvotes, the implication that many thousands more invalidated Floridians intended to vote for Mr Gore than for Mr Bush seems hard to resist. The survey also clearly implies that some of Florida's voting machines were inadequate and that many voters were confused by the procedure.

In the second survey, the Palm Beach Post examined 4,513 dimpled "undervotes" - so named because no hole was punched in the ballot paper - and which were excluded from the November and December manual recount process. In each case, the Palm Beach county canvassing board ruled that no vote had been cast on these ballots but Democratic or Republican observers disputed the ruling. The ballots in the survey had been set aside for a possible court-ordered review that never took place.

Of the disputed ballots, some 2,500 had dimples for Mr Gore, while 1,818 had similar marks for Mr Bush. If they had been counted, Mr Gore would have had a net gain of 682 votes. This would have been in addition to a separate net gain of 174 votes from Palm Beach which was disallowed by Florida's secretary of state.
 
Not to mention all of the disenfranchised black voters who were kicked off the rolls.
 
Bernie Sanders once entered a Bernie Sanders lookalike contest in Nevada. He came in second place. Hillary Clinton won.
 
I'm not surprised Jeb quit, but when he announced he was running I figured he would easily be a frontrunner. I would not have predicted that he would be out so early. Kind of surprising how poor of a candidate he was. He doesn't seem like a bad guy, but he was pretty exposed in the debates and during his campaign.

Edit: I guess the fact that I sort of feel bad for him, just shows how poor of a candidate he was. You don't want to feel as though your president is pathetic. He must have thought he would win on lineage alone.
 
(please clap)

barfo
 
"Planned Parenthood does wonderful things."

- Donald Trump

Trump thinks like I do. While I am disgusted by the thought of and abortion, I am also appalled by the idea of forcing a woman to bring forth children that she has no intention of raising and has no help to do it either. We do not need more feral children.
So Yes, I would have a clinic, as many as required in every urban area of the Nation. Jail the bastard selling parts, but we do not need to force more feral children into this world.
Perhaps the teaching of Jesus could change this state and make it possible to eliminate such despicable practices, but we are far from that place.
 
When Trump says he will make America great again, I believe he will. I do not need to know how he will do it, because when we have an American President that does not apologize for us, has faith in our people, and has the attitude to put America first, we will do it.

Your faith in Trump rivals those in 2008 who thought Obama was going to magically cure all the world's ills.

barfo
 
Your faith in Trump rivals those in 2008 who thought Obama was going to magically cure all the world's ills.

barfo

Not at all. Obama had never accomplished anything except successfully conning the voters. I noticed but I think you did not.
 
Not at all. Obama had never accomplished anything except successfully conning the voters. I noticed but I think you did not.

Not actually true - but I understand your point. Building hotels and casinos is a lot more relevant to being president than being a US Senator.

It's the same reason Ben Carson is so highly qualified, for those who enjoy magical thinking.

barfo
 
Taxpayers don't pay for abortions. Planned Parenthood charges for those. There are plenty of things that should be defunded before Planned Parenthood. Republicans know that taxpayers don't pay for abortions. They simply want to defund Planned Parenthood because it helps poor black people.

Yes I said it...
Planned parenthood should not be funded with taxpayer dollars. Whether they perform abortions or not.
 
Wow... there was no such ruling that Gore was trying to steal the election... there should have been a recount and you know it.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/jan/29/uselections2000.usa

Al Gore, not George Bush, should be sitting in the White House today as the newly elected president of the United States, two new independent probes of the disputed Florida election contest have confirmed.
The first survey, conducted on behalf of the Washington Post, shows that Mr Gore had a nearly three-to-one majority among 56,000Florida voters whose November 7 ballot papers were discounted because they contained more than one punched hole.

The second and separate survey, conducted on behalf of the Palm Beach Post, shows that Mr Gore had a majority of 682 votes among the discounted "dimpled" ballots in Palm Beach county.

In each case, if the newly examined votes had been allowed to count in the November election, Mr Gore would have won Florida's 21 electoral college votes by a narrow majority and he, not Mr Bush, would be the president. Instead, Mr Bush officially carried Florida by 537 votes after recounts were stopped.

In spite of the findings, no legal challenge to the Florida result is possible in the light of the US supreme court's 5-4 ruling in December to hand the state to Mr Bush. But the revelations will continue to cast a cloud, to put it mildly, over the democratic legitimacy of Mr Bush's election.

Some 56,000 so-called "overvotes" were examined in the Washington Post survey. All of these ballot papers were ruled to be invalid votes on November 7 because they contained two or more punched holes in the presidential section of the ballot. Twelve Florida counties used voting machines where voting was by punch cards in this way, and eight of them participated in the survey: Broward, Highlands, Hillsborough, Marion, Miami-Dade, Palm Beach, Pasco and Pinellas. None of the ballot papers in the survey formed part of any official count or recount.

The research shows that 45,608 of the 56,000 ballot papers (87% of the total) contained votes for Mr Gore, compared with 17,098 containing votes for Mr Bush (33%). In 1,367 cases, voters punched every hole except that for Mr Bush.

In cases where the voters cast invalid "overvotes" in the presidential election, but then cast valid votes in the US senate contest lower down on the same ballot, 70% voted Democrat, Mr Gore's party, and only 24% voted Republican.

The disproportion was especially dramatic in Palm Beach, whose butterfly ballot paper interleaved two lists of candidates in such a way as to show Mr Gore's name second on the ballot paper, but to require the voter to punch the third hole to record a vote for him.

Though no absolute conclusions can be drawn from the overvotes, the implication that many thousands more invalidated Floridians intended to vote for Mr Gore than for Mr Bush seems hard to resist. The survey also clearly implies that some of Florida's voting machines were inadequate and that many voters were confused by the procedure.

In the second survey, the Palm Beach Post examined 4,513 dimpled "undervotes" - so named because no hole was punched in the ballot paper - and which were excluded from the November and December manual recount process. In each case, the Palm Beach county canvassing board ruled that no vote had been cast on these ballots but Democratic or Republican observers disputed the ruling. The ballots in the survey had been set aside for a possible court-ordered review that never took place.

Of the disputed ballots, some 2,500 had dimples for Mr Gore, while 1,818 had similar marks for Mr Bush. If they had been counted, Mr Gore would have had a net gain of 682 votes. This would have been in addition to a separate net gain of 174 votes from Palm Beach which was disallowed by Florida's secretary of state.

http://www.britannica.com/event/Bush-v-Gore

The following day, in a 7–2 ruling, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the Florida decision, holding that the various methods and standards of the recount process violated the equal protection clause of the U.S. Constitution.

(Gore tried to steal the election, SCOTUS got that. 7-2 means even the democratic appointees thought gore was trying to steal the election).
 
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Agreed, SCOTUS guck that. SCOTUS always guck that.

barfo

Nice, Einstein.

Still 7-2 Gore was trying to steal the election.

7-2 means at least two of your kind voted he was trying to steal it.
 
Not actually true - but I understand your point. Building hotels and casinos is a lot more relevant to being president than being a US Senator.

It's the same reason Ben Carson is so highly qualified, for those who enjoy magical thinking.

barfo

Pretty much ANY occupation is better preparation to be an EFFECTIVE President than being a politician of any kind is.

Being a Senator or a Representative should permanently disqualify one from ever running for President.

They are meant to be checks in the balance of power, not conspirators in the enslavement of the citizenry.
 
7-2 means at least two of your kind voted he was trying to steal it.

Cool that you think i'm of the same kind as at least two supreme court justices.

barfo
 
Another day, another yuge Trump win. "I love the poorly educated!"

barfo
 
With all of the millions of miscellaneous pieces of rock and debris orbiting around our sun, would it really upset some cosmic balance if a small asteroid were to strike Donald Trump at his next campaign event?
 
At least wait until he picks his vice president and becomes president.

So Ivanka takes over as President? Could be interesting, I guess.

barfo
 
Literally anything is possible with Trump, but I don't see why he'd pick Kasich. Or Cruz or Rubio or Hillary, for that matter.

I'm thinking maybe Mike Tyson.

barfo
 
Literally anything is possible with Trump, but I don't see why he'd pick Kasich. Or Cruz or Rubio or Hillary, for that matter.

I'm thinking maybe Mike Tyson.

barfo

I hoping for Palin.
 
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/nevada-may-show-trump-can-win-even-with-low-turnout/

Nate Silver expects low voter turnout in Nevada republican caucus.

https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/619673?unlock=CFWPGAMN5RVWOIM5&mref=homepage-free

Democratic turnout is noticeably down from its high-water mark in 2008, with significantly more GOP voters turning out in Iowa and New Hampshire. Republicans held a 15,700-vote turnout advantage in Iowa and a 33,000-vote edge in New Hampshire. Meanwhile, Nevada turnout was down 30 percent from the Obama-Clinton clash of eight years ago.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/politics/nevada-republican-caucus-results/

It was unclear exactly what the GOP turnout would be in Nevada, but anecdotal reports from caucus sites around the state suggested that it was much higher than officials had expected -- due in part to the supporters turning out for Trump.

That led to chaos, confusion and long lines at some caucus states early in the night. Some caucus sites ran out of ballots and several GOP operatives said that volunteers were not adequately trained on caucus rules, leading to reports of violations
 
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Lol nah. I read an article the other day suggesting kasich could be his choice for vice president.

And lets think about this. If trump is gone, would you enjoy Cruz more as president? Rubio? Hillary?

They all suck.
Kasich makes sense, he's pretty moderate. Under the radar guys would be Jon Huntsman or Scott Brown.
 
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Another day, another yuge Trump win. "I love the poorly educated!"

barfo


It's funny how people keep jumping on this, like it's some sort of slight, or insight into why he's being voted for, as if only 'poorly educated' people are pro-Trump. It was a true "Bushism" on his part, but he meant well. Reading from the Twitter comments it's pretty evident that the poorly educated are on both sides of the political fence.
 
It's funny how people keep jumping on this, like it's some sort of slight, or insight into why he's being voted for, as if only 'poorly educated' people are pro-Trump.

Or maybe it's just a funny thing he said. Not everything is a partisan attack.

barfo
 
He's reaching across the aisle to bring the poorly educated into the voting booth on his behalf.
 
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