Hollinger talks Nash trade (1 Viewer)

[santeesioux]

Steve Nash to Portland (Proposed trade)
Nash is a free agent after the season and, as our Marc Stein noted earlier this year, his contract isn't extension-eligible. So any team trading for him would basically be taking him on as a rental. Who would do such a thing?

Well, the Blazers might. Portland has been undone by uneven backcourt play so far this year, something that obviously would change the second Nash showed up. And they have the perfect pieces to put into a deal. Raymond Felton has an expiring contract of his own that nearly matches Nash's, which means the deal basically comes down to prospects. Portland can offer two young guards -- Nolan Smith and Elliot Williams -- and possibly a future draft pick, as well.

This may seem like small change for a player of Nash's caliber, but again, it's just a half-season rental, and I'm not sure the Suns will get any better offers than this. A year ago they might have been able to do nearly the same deal except with Nicolas Batum coming back; that isn't happening now.

The Suns may not be willing to deal Nash, of course; that's been their stance the past two years. But the overwhelmingly obvious fact that this team isn't any good even with Nash may cause them to change their tune.

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[SlyPokerDog]

We could always throw in the rights to Joel Freeland.

 

[blue32]

You gotta keep Elliot Williams though; that guy is just going to explode for us.

 

[Rhal]

Id rather not give up elliot williams id give smith up though. If we plan on offerng gordan near max money id give up elliot

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[Draco]

I'd give up either one of Nolan or Elliot, probably even both. If Batum's injury is indeed a torn ACL I'd consider him as well.

I'd rather keep our draft picks but if we have to send out a 2015 pick I'd do that too. I think Nash gives us a shot at being the #2 team in the west, and then we are a few lucky buckets away from making the finals.

 

[NOBODY]

Are we good enough in other areas for a player like Nash to matter? If adding Nash gives us a chance at winning the championship, then they should do it. If not though, then shouldn't they hold on to their young prospects.

 

[Nikolokolus]

If you want to push your chips in, then Williams has to be on the table. He's got some upside ... which is precisely why the Suns would demand he come in the trade because Felton is clearly a downgrade and every other piece we have to offer in trade isn't particularly attractive for a team about to go young and rebuild.

Frankly, I don't think Nash is the elusive last piece that pushes us into contention, but it would give them a shot at a higher playoff seed at least and that seems to matter to Paul Allen more than setting the table for a couple of years from now.

 

[HailBlazers]

Nash enjoyed watching us Destroy the Suns last Friday from his seat on the floor. I think he would enjoy playing here as well.

If Oden miraculously comes back and we were to get Nash this team would be transformed.

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Are we good enough in other areas for a player like Nash to matter? If adding Nash gives us a chance at winning the championship, then they should do it. If not though, then shouldn't they hold on to their young prospects.

The problem with our young prospects, most of them are not that good of prospects. EWill is a maybe but he hasn't done well enough to break into playing time yet. Based on what I've seen of our prospects, I'd package the whole of them (along with getting rid of Felton) to get Nash, whether he stays or not.

At this point, getting rid of Felton is a classic addition by subtraction. It is difficult to get worse.

Gramps...

 

[Brock]

when is deadline?

 

[Boise Blazer]

when is deadline?

I believe March 15th

 

[Draco]

Throwing in some of Elliot, Nolan, or Babbitt actually would increase our cap space this summer a small bit as well.

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Nolan, Luke, and Armon can all go straight to hell. I can't believe we wasted 1st round picks on the first two. Ewill is our only decent prospect right now.

 

[Denny Crane]

If I were Phoenix, I'd try to make it so Nash retires a Sun.

 

[e_blazer]

Nolan, Luke, and Armon can all go straight to hell. I can't believe we wasted 1st round picks on the first two. Ewill is our only decent prospect right now.

Man, get a grip.

 

[craigehlo]

Felton + Matthews + #1 Pick for Nash + Frye works

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

A half season of Nash isnt worth giving up Williams and Smith. Nash isnt going to bring us a championship this year.

 

[mook]

There's no guarantee Nash leaves after the year, but there's also no guarantee that he won't want to stay. Portland is the kind of place NBA good-guy types like Frye, Przybilla, Blake, Brian Grant, etc tend to really like. Nash kind of seems in that mold. I can see him re-signing here. At least there's a decent chance. Which means signing him limits the possibility of finding ourselves scraping up another Raymond Felton next summer. Sure I'd love to get Deron Williams, but I hate having too many irons in that fire.

Yeah, it may be only half a season. But this season is also about 1/7 of Aldridge's remaining prime years. This is probably the last productive year for Camby (and possibly Wallace). I'd like to see us make the most of it with a decent playoff run, even if it doesn't result in a championship.

I'd be reluctant to trade our youngsters, but then I have to remember there were times when I was reluctant to trade Webster, Outlaw, Jack and Telfair. You don't get Scottie Pippen without giving up Kelvin Cato.

 

[Brock]

now that nics season isnt over...... trade for nash

nash for felton/smith and babbit?

 

[magnifier661]

I would do anything to get Nash. Our PGs are lame! We need someone to lead this club from the perimeter. And teams daring us to shoot will be punished by Nash. We won't see the bullshit of leaving Felton wide open to double Aldridge.

 

[julius]

I like Nash. 8 years ago.

Not sure giving up two youngins plus a pick is worth 40 games of Steve Nash. Not that Nolan or Williams WILL be something great, but they could be. And we know what Nash is NOW.

Horrible defender and losing his advantage on offense quickly.

 

[Blazinaway]

I like Nash. 8 years ago.

Not sure giving up two youngins plus a pick is worth 40 games of Steve Nash. Not that Nolan or Williams WILL be something great, but they could be. And we know what Nash is NOW.

Horrible defender and losing his advantage on offense quickly.

agree, Nash is a waste of time and talent unless they gave him to us very cheap and there is no chance of that

 

[Nikolokolus]

I would do anything to get Nash. Our PGs are lame! We need someone to lead this club from the perimeter. And teams daring us to shoot will be punished by Nash. We won't see the bullshit of leaving Felton wide open to double Aldridge.

Getting caught up in trying to salvage this clusterfuck of a season at all costs is exactly the kind of thinking I hope Paul Allen (and whomever the hell is making personnel decisions) avoids.

 

[magnifier661]

Getting caught up in trying to salvage this clusterfuck of a season at all costs is exactly the kind of thinking I hope Paul Allen (and whomever the hell is making personnel decisions) avoids.

Not necessarily salvaging. If the pieces are Felton and e will for Nash, then I'm all for it. Wallace and Felton are all likely gone anyways.

 

[LameR]

LOL at people not wanting to trade Elliott Williams to get Steve Nash in return.

 

[magnifier661]

Matthews and Felton for Nash

I would do this one. At least Phoenix will have a player "Wes Matthews" that they can keep for 2 more years guaranteed. And if they keep on losing; they would have a great shot in getting a marquee PG in the strong draft this summer.

Why it would be good on our end. We could start Nic or Crawford at SG, E. Will will probably get more burn and Nash will definitely open the paint for Aldridge down low.

 

[magnifier661]

Matthews and Felton for Nash

I would do this one. At least Phoenix will have a player "Wes Matthews" that they can keep for 2 more years guaranteed. And if they keep on losing; they would have a great shot in getting a marquee PG in the strong draft this summer.

Why it would be good on our end. We could start Nic or Crawford at SG, E. Will will probably get more burn and Nash will definitely open the paint for Aldridge down low.

 

[Nikolokolus]

There are no "marquee" point guards in this year's draft. This is going to be one of those semi-rare "big men" drafts.

 

[magnifier661]

There are no "marquee" point guards in this year's draft. This is going to be one of those semi-rare "big men" drafts.

Ahhh okay; well then maybe use the pick to get a marquee PG? Or maybe get the big and try and re-sign Felton for less?

 

[magnifier661]

There are no "marquee" point guards in this year's draft. This is going to be one of those semi-rare "big men" drafts.

Ahhh okay; well then maybe use the pick to get a marquee PG? Or maybe get the big and try and re-sign Felton for less?