Holy barf bag, barfo!

[Denny Crane]

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/09/05/rand-paul-leads-in-kentucky-polling/

Rand Paul, a tea party-backed Republican running for a U.S. Senate seat in Kentucky, is leading his Democratic rival Jack Conway by 15 points, according to a new poll by SurveyUSA.

The poll, conducted for the Louisville Courier-Journal and WHAS-TV, http://www.courier-journal.com/arti...06/Complete-results-Kentucky-U-S-Senate-poll# puts Paul ahead of Conway, 55% to 40%. The two are vying to capture the seat being vacated by Republican Sen. Jim Bunning, who is not running for re-election.

The margin of error for the poll is 4.2 points, which was conducted between Aug. 30 and Sept. 1, is 4.2 points. Other polls taken in mid- and late-August put Paul ahead by between five and 10 percentage points, according to polling data compiled by realclearpolitics.com.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/09/05/ftn/main6837589.shtml

Analysts: White House Panicking Over Elections
Say Dems Are Distancing Themselves From Obama, Angry Over Economy, Health Care Fallout

(CBS) With many polls indicating the Republicans may win back control of the House of Representatives (and possibly the Senate as well) in the upcoming mid-term elections, Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.

"Does the White House understand this?" asked guest host Harry Smith. "Do you feel any sense of panic or concern" on the part of the administration?

"They get it. There's panic. There's concern," VandeHei said. "The reality for this administration stinks, politically and practically, when it comes to the economy. You're not going to be able to change that 9.6-percent unemployment figure. You can't get anything from Congress in the next couple of months."

CBS Congressional correspondent Nancy Cordes said the Democrats are distancing themselves from President Obama.

"Not only are they running away from President Obama, they're running away from being Democrats in some cases. In some races you actually see the Democratic candidates not really mentioning that they're a Democrat in their campaign ads," Cordes said.

 

[jlprk]

Politico is far from a neutral source.

 

[barfo]

I can't say that I'm too concerned by either one of those reports. A democrat trailing in Kentucky is not exactly shocking, and as for the white house being upset about the election, what difference does it make how they feel? If the report was about what the white house is going to do, then it might be of interest.

barfo

 

[julius]

I can't say that I'm too concerned by either one of those reports. A democrat trailing in Kentucky is not exactly shocking, and as for the white house being upset about the election, what difference does it make how they feel? If the report was about what the white house is going to do, then it might be of interest.

barfo

Yeah, I'm a little confused by the point of this thread. Currently, both senators from Kentucky are Republicans. A R is retiring. And right now, a Republican (er...Tea Partier) is leading a democrat in a conservative state which currently has 2 R's?

So the R's winning Kentucky doesn't exactly change the #'s in the senate any, because replacing an R with another R...doesn't do anything.

It'd be like proving the democrats are fine by saying "Ron Wyden leads Oregon's senate race!"...when he's pretty much running unopposed and both seats in Oregon are D's.

 

[jlprk]

Jim VandeHei, the executive editor of Politico, told CBS' "Face the Nation" that the Obama administration is in a horrible position.

I posted a few days ago that too many of Denny's posts depend upon Politico, a conservative website.

 

[Denny Crane]

I posted a few days ago that too many of Denny's posts depend upon Politico, a conservative website.

Bullshit. Politico is not a conservative WWW site. No more conservative than the Washington Post, from which the founders of Politico came, or MSNBC where the founders are regular talking heads.

 

[Denny Crane]

I can't say that I'm too concerned by either one of those reports. A democrat trailing in Kentucky is not exactly shocking, and as for the white house being upset about the election, what difference does it make how they feel? If the report was about what the white house is going to do, then it might be of interest.

barfo

How quickly you forget your own posts. The plan against Rand Paul was to try to ridicule him and make the race one of personal destruction. You were quite pleased that the first polls showed Paul losing or the race about tied. Now it's 15 points he's up, and that is the story.

In fact, the story is that the Democrats' only hope of winning elections is to make the race one of personal destruction, and here's a case where it's not working.

 

[Denny Crane]

BTW I do remember my own posts, this one made in May. It's looking about +7 in the Senate and much more than +27 in the house.

Consider the baseline +7 GOP seats in the senate, +27 in the house.



To make a difference in the November elections, yes.

 

[Minstrel]

How quickly you forget your own posts. The plan against Rand Paul was to try to ridicule him and make the race one of personal destruction. You were quite pleased that the first polls showed Paul losing or the race about tied. Now it's 15 points he's up, and that is the story.

A Republican being way up in Kentucky isn't a story. For a while, a few months ago, it seemed like Rand's craziness factor might actually endanger the seat for Republicans. That would have been a story, a story of self-inflicted personal destruction for the Republican party. The fact that, crazy candidate or not, Kentucky is still safe for Republicans isn't all that much of a story. Water is still wet...even crazy water.

 

[Denny Crane]

A Republican being way up in Kentucky isn't a story. For a while, a few months ago, it seemed like Rand's craziness factor might actually endanger the seat for Republicans. That would have been a story, a story of self-inflicted personal destruction for the Republican party. The fact that, crazy candidate or not, Kentucky is still safe for Republicans isn't all that much of a story. Water is still wet...even crazy water.

The story is that the talking points were that the Tea Party backed candidates were so loony that democrats would beat them. Just like Brown won Teddy's seat because the democrats ran a shitty candidate. Apparently, Rand isn't _that_ shitty a candidate, eh?

 

[Minstrel]

Apparently, Rand isn't _that_ shitty a candidate, eh?

He's probably not shitty at campaigning, like Coakley. Coakley was more like John McCain...terrible campaigner, came off as clueless. Rand is just a rightwing nutcase (not that nutcases must be rightwing, but he's one of them)...rightwing nuttery is probably not that much of a detriment in as red a state as Kentucky.

 

[barfo]

How quickly you forget your own posts. The plan against Rand Paul was to try to ridicule him and make the race one of personal destruction.

Was it? I ridiculed him, certainly, but I'm not part of the Conway campaign.

You were quite pleased that the first polls showed Paul losing or the race about tied.

Why wouldn't I be pleased about such polls?

Now it's 15 points he's up, and that is the story.

Yes, but it's a boring story. Hopefully after he gets elected he'll unleash some more crazy, and then we'll have an interesting story again.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Mission Accomplished!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/09/03/AR2010090305391_pf.html

Small businesses feel squeezed by Obama policies
By V. Dion Haynes
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, September 6, 2010; 12

Last year, even as he struggled through the worst of the recession, Chris Upham said revenue at his District-based real estate and construction businesses doubled -- allowing him to hire two agents.

But Upham said he hasn't increased his staff thus far in 2010 and he doesn't expect to for the remainder of the year.

That's because his taxes rose sevenfold. And he said he anticipates they'll increase again if the Bush tax cuts for people earning $250,000 and above expire at the end of the year.

As small businesses try to plot their recovery, attention is turning to what many owners consider burdensome policies -- higher taxes, new accounting procedures and health-care mandates. Even as the government tries to help with an array of small-business initiatives, many owners say the intervention is as much a hindrance to hiring as the faltering economy.

Their perceptions are important because the Obama administration is counting on small-business owners like Upham, whose ranks represent more than half the U.S. workforce, to jump-start the economy, much like they did after downturns in the early 1990s and 2001.

"We did well last year, hired two people, but the taxes ate through the income we had," Upham said.

Upham said business picked up substantially with the Obama tax credit for first-time home buyers before dropping off when it ended. With the administration efforts, he said, he feels like he's taking one step forward and two backward.

"It seemed like we were moving up, [and now] consumer confidence is down," he added. "What I want government to do is not raise taxes -- decrease them to allow us extra money for hiring."

I'm waiting now for the "Washington Post is a conservative rag" bit.

 

[Denny Crane]

Republican campaign ad should be made out of this one:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100906/D9I2DUV01.html

Obama calling for more infrastructure spending

WASHINGTON (AP) - Vowing to find new ways to stimulate the sputtering economy, President Barack Obama will call for long-term investments in the nation's roads, railways and runways that would cost at least $50 billion.

 

[barfo]

I'm waiting now for the "Washington Post is a conservative rag" bit.

Not going there, but I think the story is a load of crap. A sevenfold increase in taxes? The only way that happens is if the numbers involved are very small.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

Not going there, but I think the story is a load of crap. A sevenfold increase in taxes? The only way that happens is if the numbers involved are very small.

barfo

I suppose you didn't read the health care bill that was passed - that's the source of the tax increases.

 

[barfo]

I suppose you didn't read the health care bill that was passed - that's the source of the tax increases.

Bullpucky. What health care reform related tax, exactly, went into immediate effect and would affect someone in the real estate business?

barfo

 

[Nate4Prez]

McCain is up by 70 points over the Democratic candidate in the Arizona race!! The Republican's are killing the Democrats there, and it's all Obama's fault! Surely this is a sign American's are fed up with this Presidency and the actions of the Democrats!

 

[Denny Crane]

Bullpucky. What health care reform related tax, exactly, went into immediate effect and would affect someone in the real estate business?

barfo

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

See page 275.

The thing is a scam, remember? They're collecting, via taxes and other burdens on people, enough money over the first half of the term of the law to make the second half seem like it barely breaks even.

 

[barfo]

http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

See page 275.

Ok, I see page 275. What does that have to do with taxes in 2010? Answer: nothing at all.

The truth is that small businesses get a tax credit starting this year for part of the premiums they pay for their employees. There is no new tax this year (except on tanning salons).

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/HWC_711_xml.pdf

Full of new taxes on small businesses and especially real estate.

Including a 3.9% medicare tax hike on S corporations.

 

[Denny Crane]

This is interesting, too.

http://www.infowars.com/globalist-soros-launches-frontal-assault-against-tea-party/

On April 1, Infowars.com provided evidence that protesters in fact did not spit on Missouri Democrat Emanuel Cleaver nor did they hurl racial epithets at members of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Cleaver later said a Tea Party protester did not spit on him intentionally. “All I’m saying is we all have to defuse it, and I think it is not in my best interest or in the best interest of this nation to stoke it,” he said on March 30 during a Fox News interview.

[video=youtube;PuFdASh2gvw]

 

[barfo]

http://waysandmeans.house.gov/media/pdf/111/HWC_711_xml.pdf

Full of new taxes on small businesses and especially real estate.

Including a 3.9% medicare tax hike on S corporations.

That, of course was a proposal that wasn't passed by Congress, and thus is not law. So, you know, it doesn't count.

But you probably knew that already, huh?

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

That, of course was a proposal that wasn't passed by Congress, and thus is not law. So, you know, it doesn't count.

But you probably knew that already, huh?

barfo

http://www.examiner.com/unemploymen...ends-house-vote-and-obama-signature-to-follow

Senate passes H.R. 4213 after Republican stall ends. House vote and Obama signature to follow

This afternoon at 7:00 pm, the Senate finally passed long awaited unemployment extension legislation – H.R. 4213 – that will extend unemployment benefits until the end of November. The vote was 59-39 in favor. Republican delays continued throughout the voting process as 5 different motions were introduced that were bound to fail passage. Again, Republicans delayed the vote for political gains while 2.6 million unemployed waited anxiously.

...

The bill now goes back to the House for its certain approval and then on to President Obama for his signature. The timing of those events is not yet available, but will likely occur no later than Wednesday.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.titanarmor.com/2010/07/legislation/h-r-4213-signed-into-law/

July 23rd, 2010 | Published in 1.0 - R&D Credit Legislation


President Obama signed H.R. 4213, the “Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010″, yesterday. However, it doesn’t look like the 2010 extension of the R&D Credit made it into the final version of the bill.

 

[barfo]

http://www.examiner.com/unemploymen...ends-house-vote-and-obama-signature-to-follow

Senate passes H.R. 4213 after Republican stall ends. House vote and Obama signature to follow

The republican stall ended because the bill was gutted. Went from 72,000 words to 1200. So yes, they passed 4213, but it didn't contain anything but the unemployment extension. In particular, it didn't contain the things you were complaining about.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

The republican stall ended because the bill was gutted. Went from 72,000 words to 1200. So yes, they passed 4213, but it didn't contain anything but the unemployment extension. In particular, it didn't contain the things you were complaining about.

barfo

I don't think so.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h4213/text

http://www.c-span.org/guide/congress/glossary/enrolled.htm

An ENROLLED BILL is the final version passed in identical form by both chambers and sent to the president.

 

[Denny Crane]

In case you don't understand, the 1200 words is the DIFFERENCE between the two bills that passed (one the house, one the senate).

 

[barfo]

I don't think so.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h4213/text

http://www.c-span.org/guide/congress/glossary/enrolled.htm

An ENROLLED BILL is the final version passed in identical form by both chambers and sent to the president.

Yeah, and your first link confirms what I said. The enrolled bill is 1298 words. The prior version was 72,000.

So what do you mean you don't think so?

barfo