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Give the Isles credit. Sometimes you make me laugh Al. Of course there are no locks, that is why they play the games. Sometimes things go according to plan and sometimes not. We should have beaten the Sens and didn't. We should have beaten the Canes and Sabres and did. The Flyers should have beaten the Sabres and Panthers and did. The Habs should have beaten the Isles and didn't. Sometimes the %'s work, and sometimes they dont, that is why it isn't 100%.

In the playoffs there is none of that. Every game is hard fought and any team can get some wins.
 
I agree jam, and that is what I was just saying, in the playoffs any team can win games. I just wanted the home ice for game 7, I would be SHOCKED if it didn't go back to Philly 1-1, but game 7 here is huge IMO.

As for CBJ or Philly, like I said it isn't nearly as much I don't want to play Philly as it is I really want Pitt to play the Wings or Flyers. That is my motivation there.
 
I think CBJ, just like Philly, would be a long hard fought tough series (I would say us in 7 in both cases). You know those ex-Rangers would love to stick it to us. And Bob is better than Mason. So really that is a tough series either way, no real advantage to playing either. I just rather CBJ because I don't want to deal with the Flyers cheap BS AND like I said I want the Pens to play Philly or the Wings.

Go CBJ tomorrow night. Put the pressure on Philly at Pitt Saturday.
 
The more I think about it, the more I would love to see a CBJ win in reg or OT tonight at TB. That would put a ton of pressure on the Flyers to have to win in reg or OT tomorrow at Pitt otherwise they will be a WC for sure (assuming CBJ wins in reg or OT at Florida tomorrow).

That would be a great look for us. Makes the Flyers and CBJ have to play all out for 82 games. Means the Pens play the Flyers or Wings in round 1, which would be a tough battle for them. Means we may get to avoid the Flyers and all their cheap BS they pull.

Like I said, Flyers or BJ's I see that as a long 7 game series either way for us, but overall I think it is a good thing for us if CBJ wins in reg or OT tonight at TB.
 
I'm not even thinking about it, whoever they play, they play. For me, it's be careful what you wish for, because you just might get it. So I don't wish for anybody. Success for the Rangers will be defined by how well they play on the defensive side of the ice, against whoever they play. In other words, if they continue to allow opposing skaters access to the front of the goal without putting a body on them, it will be tough for them to make it out of round one. Opposing teams know how to beat the Rangers, be physical and go to the net. The Rangers have to hit, protect the net and capitalize on there many opportunities. McDonagh coming back will be a HUGE help, and they could also use Kreider ...
 
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I'm not even thinking about it, whoever they play, they play. ...
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That's how it is for me. To play the numbers/matchup game is nothing more than finding something to waste some time on when bored.

If you want to be the best, go and beat the best.
 
I agree jam, and I am not really wishing for a specific team either. I am however wishing for CBJ to win tonight and put pressure on Philly tomorrow. That makes both of those teams have to play full out for 82. Maybe get a little more banged up. We can rest until next Thursday really.

If there is any reason I want to "play CBJ" it is because I would like to see the Pens play the Flyers or Wings in round 1, and CBJ finishing ahead of Philly assures that.

McDonagh will be good to go. Kreider I doubt it. Like I said when he got hurt 2 + weeks ago, it wouldn't be an issue in the regular season losing Kreider, and it wasn't as we still got 2 in the Met. It will potentially be an issue against Philly or CBJ, but what can you do. No excuses...injuries happen...we just have to play.
 
I can't believe it's very possible it ends up being Columbus coming to the Garden instead of Philly.
 
I still think Philly is the fav to be here. Look at it like this:

Philly hosts the Canes Sunday...should be a sure win.
CBJ is at Florida tomorrow night...should be a pretty sure win.

CBJ is at TB tonight...toss-up as TB still has home ice to play for (they need to win out).
Philly is at Pitt tomorrow afternoon...toss-up, but Pitt has nothing to play for at all.

Philly also has the TB at the moment (1 more ROW). And I would say a touch easier schedule.

So I would still edge towards Philly, but CBJ is possible. This is also why I want a CBJ win tonight in reg or OT...makes the next two days of hockey much more interesting. If CBJ gets beat tonight it is over and we play Philly 99% for sure.
 
NYR31 said:
That's how it is for me. To play the numbers/matchup game is nothing more than finding something to waste some time on when bored.

If you want to be the best, go and beat the best.
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Exactly! Who ever it is, just go beat them.
 
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chuckd3534 said:
I still think Philly is the fav to be here. Look at it like this:

Philly hosts the Canes Sunday...should be a sure win.
CBJ is at Florida tomorrow night...should be a pretty sure win.

CBJ is at TB tonight...toss-up as TB still has home ice to play for (they need to win out).
Philly is at Pitt tomorrow afternoon...toss-up, but Pitt has nothing to play for at all.

Philly also has the TB at the moment (1 more ROW). And I would say a touch easier schedule.

So I would still edge towards Philly, but CBJ is possible. This is also why I want a CBJ win tonight in reg or OT...makes the next two days of hockey much more interesting. If CBJ gets beat tonight it is over and we play Philly 99% for sure.
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The Blue Jackets blew a HUGE opportunity at home against the Black Hawks. At the very least, they should have picked up a point. It's kind of nice to sit back and see how this all plays out.
 
Right, that's my point jam. If CBJ gets beat tonight it is over we play Philly. I hope CBJ beats TB...that will make the next two days more fun and interesting to see which team we will play.

From there whichever team we play so be it. Just want a couple of fun days (and would love to see Pitt and Philly play again...:)).
 
I actually think the key for the Rangers in the playoffs are Rick Nash and Marty St Louis. Hank will be Hank but if you look at why this team has not advanced it had nothing to do with defense. This team always showed up defensively in the playoffs but could never score enough to avoid long drawn out 7 game series. I know they are playing a different style now but for this team to make noise its all about depth scoring and mostly our top guys being top guys, which is somewhat concerning as Nash has been hit or miss this year and St Louis has been pretty awful up to this point.

But it's a new season and this is why this team traded for St Louis. This is why this team traded for Nash, who had a horrible playoffs last year. It's time for these guys to perform and if they do this team can play with anyone in the East except probably Boston.
 
Nash especially will be VERY much under the microscope. If he craps out again it will not be good for him. He must show up big.
 
will be a lot of pressure on Nash to perform especially if they go up against the Jackets and Dubi Dubi doooo
 
I know you love Dubi Al, I really liked him as a player too but his 3 goals in his past 21 playoff games are probably not keeping this team up at night
 
Nathan Horton out 6 weeks for the BJ's, so he'll miss all of round 1. That's a little loss for them.

As for Dubi, he is not Nash, but by the numbers that was a very good trade for the BJ's this season.

Nash 26 goals 39 points (pretty amazing that Nash only had 13 assists).
Dubi 16 goals 49 points.
Anisimov 22 goals 39 points.

Now with that said, it all goes away if Nash shows up big in the playoffs. If he doesn't, for a 2nd straight season, that trade will lok very bad for us. Just reality I think.
 
BTW...on paper this new playoff format really helped us. Aside from the fact that we cannot play the Bruins until the ECF, we are 5th in the East based on points. We would not have gotten home ice under the old format. And would have had a tougher road on paper.

I think the NHL did this new playoff format for clarity (and division rivalries). They can now set-up a clear bracket and have their "bracket challenge". We'll see how it goes.
 
CBJ should be very peeved about the schedule they had to play. They will play 7 games in 10 calendar days and 5 in the last 7. Don't think ive ever seen that before
 
Yeah, they got hurt schedule wise by the Dallas re-played game because of Peverley.
 
chuckd3534 said:
Nathan Horton out 6 weeks for the BJ's, so he'll miss all of round 1. That's a little loss for them.

As for Dubi, he is not Nash, but by the numbers that was a very good trade for the BJ's this season.

Nash 26 goals 39 points (pretty amazing that Nash only had 13 assists).
Dubi 16 goals 49 points.
Anisimov 22 goals 39 points.

Now with that said, it all goes away if Nash shows up big in the playoffs. If he doesn't, for a 2nd straight season, that trade will lok very bad for us. Just reality I think.
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Chuck, your head is so far up your ass on that trade it's mind boggling. Nash embarrassed the Jackets in that trade year one. He single handily got the team in the playoffs. He won about 12 games by himself in the third period his first year. Yes, he was lame in the playoffs but they don't even make the playoffs without him. Dubinsky and Anisimov are nothing but role players. I agree that Columbus did better this year in that deal but Dubinsky as usually did nothing when the games were big. I think Dubinsky had 3 goals his last 20+ games. Typical of that moron.
 
Looking forward to Nash and St Louis doing some good stuff in the playoffs.
 
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Chuck, your head is so far up your ass on that trade it's mind boggling. Nash embarrassed the Jackets in that trade year one. He single handily got the team in the playoffs. He won about 12 games by himself in the third period his first year. Yes, he was lame in the playoffs but they don't even make the playoffs without him. Dubinsky and Anisimov are nothing but role players. I agree that Columbus did better this year in that deal but Dubinsky as usually did nothing when the games were big. I think Dubinsky had 3 goals his last 20+ games. Typical of that moron.
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Exactly 4 goals past 26 games.....
 
Dump, you have issues dude.

I LITERALLY SAID: DUBI IS NOT NASH.
I LITERALLY SAID: BY THE NUMBERS IT WAS A GOOD TRADE FOR CBJ THIS SEASON...THIS SEASON...THIS SEASON...WHICH YOU AGREED WITH.

So just stop man. I know you are literally incapable of not being a rude, but just stop and actually read what I wrote.

I didn't say it was a bad deal for us forever. I said Dubi is not Nash. I said if Nash has a big playoffs this is all forgotten, so just cut the BS.

I also know that most in here now hate Dubi, that was a 180 from when he was a Ranger but I digress, but we need to be honest. THIS REGULAR SEASON that trade did not look good for us...THIS REGULAR SEASON. CLEARLY if Nash goes off in the playoffs that changes things. But we have our heads in the sand if we don't think another terrible playoffs by Nash doesn't make Nash look bad and make us all say is Nash really worth what we gave up and a 7.8 mill cap hit???
 
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Oh...and BTW...outside of that hot streak Nash didn't score at a high rate.

Last 27 games...8 goals...over 82 games that is a 24 goal pace...24.

So I know it is cute to knock Dubi or Anisimov, but how about we look at Nash. 24 goal pace in the last 27 games.

He had 11 goals in 11 games during his hot streak. Outside of that streak he had 15 goals in 53 games. What a shocker same pace as the last 27 games outside of his hot streak.

So let's knock Dubi and his lack of goals. Let's act as if Nash is great. I will let his play do the talking, and outside of his great 11 game stretch he was a 23-24 goal scorer. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

But guess what, the playoffs are a new season. If he comes out and gets it done in the playoffs ALL is forgotten and he is the stud we paid for and need. So he has a shot to be the guy we expected him to be. Let's see if he can do it.
 
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Looks like the Flyers it is with the BJ's getting beat tonight. That's a downer since I was looking forward to some good hockey tomorrow, and a fun Flyers at Pens game, now it means very little.

If the Flyers simply beat the Canes in reg or OT at home on Sunday they get 3 in the Met and play us starting Thursday regardless of what the BJ's do at the Panthers tomorrow night, or what the Flyers do at the Pens tomorrow afternoon.

Let the battle begin...I think it will be a long hard fought series with the Flyers. Close series. I say we get it done in 7 at home.

With the Wings also losing tonight, it looks pretty strong that the Wings will play the Bruins, and the BJ's will play the Pens. I wanted the Wings to play the Pens, but oh well. Hopefully the BJ's can knock the Pens out despite their 0-5 regular season record against the Pens.
 
its a valid point about Nash/Dubi but call me a Nash apologist but I think he is still going to make his mark in NY

BTW, also tonight the Devils lost in a shootout again, LMAO 0-14 in shootouts this year that is hilarious
 
The other thing you completely ignore about that trade Chuck is that trade then allowed the Rangers to dump Gaborik on the the Jackets for Brassard, Moore and Dorsett. They didn't need Gaborik after acquiring Nash. So essentially the trade was

Gaborik, Erixon, Dubinsky, Anisimov and a 1st for Nash, Brassard, J. Moore, Dorsett and a 3rd.

Sorry but the Rangers won that deal huge. You are simply looking at it with a close minded view. Brassard centers the teams most productive line. J. Moore looks like he's about to break out onto another level. Dorsett plays on the 4th line.
 
And for the record Dis...so do I. And i would make that trade again today as well. But let's not act as if Nash has been some monster stud here. That's my only point. Both Anisimov and Dubi had worst case as good of seasons as Nash, and I think you could say both had better seasons than Nash this season.

BUT neither AA or Dubi has Nash's overall ability or game breaking skills, and we know that. I do think these playoffs are huge for Nash though. If he lays an egg in the playoffs again how would that make us feel? How would we really have confidence in him moving forward with his 7.8 mill per cap hit? Dude needs to show up large in the playoffs...he really does. Prior to last seasons playoffs Milbury and Jones pretty much questioned Nash in the playoffs and his ability to get it done in the playoffs, and they nailed it last playoffs. That is all forgotten if he does well these playoffs, but if he doesn't we have some issues with him IMO.
 
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