Honestly guys, do we need a trade?

[BenDavis503]

I really don't think we do. We need to keep the team together. We need to let the team develop, let the guys who wouldn't play anyways play, let Bayless blossom into a star.

I remember when Mike Bibby had his breakout playoff series, not sure what year. But I remember it. He just blossomed into a star right in front of my eyes (I had a buddy from Sac and we watched a lot of Kings games). I think I am seeing that ith Bayless right now. It is an awesome feeling.

I am going to be REALLY upset if Bayless doesn't get more burn.

 

[B-Roy]

We won't if Obi Wan keeps producing like Oden.

 

[Eastoff]

I would be in favor of keeping this team together, and letting the old hands expire (trout and blakey). But we need an immediate fix for center. Juward played his heart out tonight (maybe literally). I can't imagine he can keep this up the rest of the season though.

 

[RoyToy]

Still need some type of real center.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Old guys will be content to sit on a team and not play and chase a championship, young guys need minutes to get a second contract and will not be content to sit on the bench and collect DNPs and low minutes in order to chase a championship. Do the math ... still think this team won't need a trade sooner or later? If not, who sits?

 

[BoomChakaLaka]

Old guys will be content to sit on a team and not play and chase a championship, young guys need minutes to get a second contract and will not be content to sit on the bench and collect DNPs and low minutes in order to chase a championship. Do the math ... still think this team won't need a trade sooner or later? If not, who sits?

You have to trade Blake and Outlaw. They are simply odd-men out! Both with expiring contracts - and together, we should be able to trade them to a team looking to dump salary.

Trade them to the Knicks for Lee. He's a small Center - really a Power Forward - but at the end of the season, having him gives us some options; move Lee and Miller for something fantastic? If prospects of Joel and/or Oden returning next season at full-health are slim, then you keep him.

WE NEED A BIG. WE NEED A BIG WHO CAN SCORE!!


Much of Howard's success in the few games he's gotten minutes is: 1) he's not too shabby on defense.....2) the guy can SCORE!


Lee can score. Lee can rebound.

 

[Further]

the more players we lose, the more i think we just stand pat. We really don't stand much of a chance this season. Even if we do somehow make the playoffs, I don't see any shot at advancing. So, since we have so much talent coming back next year, and developing talent this season, let's stick with what we have. Get a decent pick and make some consolidation trades in the offseason when the players we would be trading are healthy and can be expected to bring back better value.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Uh, yes.

Howard wont be putting up double/doubles like this for too long.

 

[Kaydow]

I really don't think we do. We need to keep the team together. We need to let the team develop, let the guys who wouldn't play anyways play, let Bayless blossom into a star.

I remember when Mike Bibby had his breakout playoff series, not sure what year. But I remember it. He just blossomed into a star right in front of my eyes (I had a buddy from Sac and we watched a lot of Kings games). I think I am seeing that ith Bayless right now. It is an awesome feeling.

I am going to be REALLY upset if Bayless doesn't get more burn.

2002 WCF vs the Lakers. Remember it like it was yesterday. Bibby was brilliant - too bad the refs just had to get the Lakers to the finals to get television ratings. Bibby's Kings outplayed the Lakers in that series, it just didn't show on the final scoreboard.

 

[Kaydow]

Uh, yes.

Howard wont be putting up double/doubles like this for too long.

It's been a while since Howard was a good player, but it seems like people forgot he WAS a good player. It's not like we're talking about Brian Skinner here.

But I do agree that at 36 (37 in a couple months) it's unlikely he can play 35 minutes a night and give us double/doubles for 51 more games.

 

[MIXUM]

um yes. fabulous job by the blazers on the road. best wins they have had in a long time. however... you cant ask howard to stay healthy/play 30 + minutes a night. will never happen.

you get something for blake/outlaw and pray a certain mri is ok.

 

[Nikolokolus]

um yes. fabulous job by the blazers on the road. best wins they have had in a long time. however... you cant ask howard to stay healthy/play 30 + minutes a night. will never happen.

you get something for blake/outlaw and pray a certain mri is ok.

I agree.

 

[ehizzy3]

a guard needs to be traded before rudy comes back...

 

[MARIS61]

BAKE IT!

 

[BenDavis503]

um yes. fabulous job by the blazers on the road. best wins they have had in a long time. however... you cant ask howard to stay healthy/play 30 + minutes a night. will never happen.

you get something for blake/outlaw and pray a certain mri is ok.

I feel you, but I do not agree that it will never happen with Howard. I don't understand your beef with him? Are you an Ohio State fan?

Anyhow, I kinda feel like Outlaw needs another run with us and we shouldn't just dump him off. I am all about trading Blake, but I think Outlaw deserves a little run before we trade him.

 

[BenDavis503]

a guard needs to be traded before rudy comes back...

I like that idea... you dolphin killer.

 

[drexlersdad]

i still say we try and find a diamond in the rough and build his value up.

 

[MIXUM]

im just saying....

even if howard plays great every night... his body wont hold up.

we need at least a decent center to take pressure off the other bigs

 

[Nikolokolus]

im just saying....

even if howard plays great every night... his body wont hold up.

we need at least a decent center to take pressure off the other bigs

Yes. fully agree.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Dumb question....is there anyone you see on someone's roster that we can a) get for a 3.4M disabled player exception and b) is a better backup 4/5 than Pendergraph?

I looked today through every NBA roster and didn't see one.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Dumb question....is there anyone you see on someone's roster that we can a) get for a 3.4M disabled player exception and b) is a better backup 4/5 than Pendergraph?

I looked today through every NBA roster and didn't see one.

I don't even know what you are asking for here? A disabled player exemption allows you to go pick up a free agent (like Tolliver in the D-league, or some guy out of the league like Shav Randolph). You can't use it to poach a guy or trade for another player on another roster. the only thing that would allow you to do that is a trade exception and we have none. All we do have is 1.4 million in cap space and will probably have another hardship exemption to add another non-guaranteed contract to the roster.

 

[BrianFromWA]

Negative. From Coon's FAQ #19

This exception can be used to sign a free agent, or to create room to accept a salary in trade. When used for trade, the team may acquire a player whose salary (including any trade bonus) is up to 100% of this exception plus $100,000 (not 125%).

It's just about the same thing as if we had a "normal" 3.4M trade exception. Except that we could also use it to sign a FA if we wanted to.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that's why it's much harder to get. A league-approved doc has to say that Joel's out for next year (not extremely out of the question with ruptured patella tendons--as Damon or McDyess). It's not a "temporary, when a guy's out 3 games and you need a stopgap until they're back" exception.

 

[blue32]

I think we should trade all of our active guys for Yao Ming, and Tracy McGrady.


MAKE IT WORK!

 

[oldmangrouch]

The team needs another big body. Beyond that, there is little sense in trading to try to salvage *this* season.

OTOH, the team needs to see if there are any deals out there that help long term.

Bill Simmons (yes, I know) had an interesting column about the number of teams that are struggling financially. He actually tabbed the Blazers as one of the 7 teams he thinks could take advantage of the situation as the trade deadline looms, and desperation starts to set in. I hope that Boston Boy is right for once in his life!

 

[KingSpeed]

2002 WCF vs the Lakers. Remember it like it was yesterday. Bibby was brilliant - too bad the refs just had to get the Lakers to the finals to get television ratings. Bibby's Kings outplayed the Lakers in that series, it just didn't show on the final scoreboard.

Bibby was that good before that series. That's just when people noticed it because it was on TV against the Lakers.

 

[KingSpeed]

Juwan isn't too old. He's my age! He was a stud in high school, a stud in college (two NCAA championship games in his first two years playing with all freshman), and a stud in the NBA (All Star). He's been ready for this. He's stayed in shape and he can handle this.

 

[Draco]

No I don't think we need a trade.

We should look to make a trade if it improves the long-term talent of this team. I'm not concerned with bringing in help this year, we can sign D-Leaguers for that. But next year I would like to see more talent in our top 8 players. I'm also don't think Miller or Blake have much long-term value to us but they may not have trade value either.

 

[Draco]

Bill Simmons (yes, I know) had an interesting column about the number of teams that are struggling financially. He actually tabbed the Blazers as one of the 7 teams he thinks could take advantage of the situation as the trade deadline looms, and desperation starts to set in. I hope that Boston Boy is right for once in his life!

I would like to see us utilize this strategy. A trade such as Blake+Outlaw to New York for Jared Jeffries and Jordan Hill would give us a young talent with upside that can stay on the end of the bench for a few seasons and give the Knicks some precious cap space.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Negative. From Coon's FAQ #19


It's just about the same thing as if we had a "normal" 3.4M trade exception. Except that we could also use it to sign a FA if we wanted to.

EDIT: I'm pretty sure that's why it's much harder to get. A league-approved doc has to say that Joel's out for next year (not extremely out of the question with ruptured patella tendons--as Damon or McDyess). It's not a "temporary, when a guy's out 3 games and you need a stopgap until they're back" exception.

Ah I misunderstood, I guess I thought you were talking about another hardship exemption, not a disabled player exemption.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I would like to see us utilize this strategy. A trade such as Blake+Outlaw to New York for Jared Jeffries and Jordan Hill would give us a young talent with upside that can stay on the end of the bench for a few seasons and give the Knicks some precious cap space.

I would rather see us approach the Clippers for Kaman. They could save beaucoup bucks, and we could get a center. Sounds like a win-win to me.