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Do we really need a backup shooting guard
 
Do you think he's a better score of the bench than CJ McCollum
 
Schilly said:
Do you think he's a better score of the bench than CJ McCollum
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Tough question to answer being that CJ didn't really show much this past season. If the Blazers are really going to try CJ at PG though maybe they could find a little time for Marrow?:dunno:
 
Morrow is a spot up shooter and that's it. Can't get his own shot.
Takes more than being able to hit the 3 to be someone who can score.
 
Here is the description for him:

Outstanding three-point shooter... One of the best in the league... Nice mid-range jumper... Decent rebounder for his position... Poor ballhandling skills.

I really want better ball handlers on this team.......I would prefer CJ as our SG
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Here is the description for him:

Outstanding three-point shooter... One of the best in the league... Nice mid-range jumper... Decent rebounder for his position... Poor ballhandling skills.

I really want better ball handlers on this team.......I would prefer CJ as our SG
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McCollum isn't exactly known for his handles. The few times he ran the point this year, the defense was hounding him, and he struggled with the pressure.
 
PapaG said:
McCollum isn't exactly known for his handles. The few times he ran the point this year, the defense was hounding him, and he struggled with the pressure.
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He's a rookie. He has better ballhandling skills than Lillard. (yes I said it). All video points to this.
 
PapaG said:
McCollum isn't exactly known for his handles. The few times he ran the point this year, the defense was hounding him, and he struggled with the pressure.
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That's why I said SG. I don't think he is a PG at all, but for a SG his handles are pretty good. Better than Wes......I think there is a big difference between PG handles and SG handles.
CJ would be above average for a SG and well below average for a PG. IMO.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That's why I said SG. I don't think he is a PG at all, but for a SG his handles are pretty good. Better than Wes......I think there is a big difference between PG handles and SG handles.
CJ would be above average for a SG and well below average for a PG. IMO.
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CJ's problem is he is the size of a PG, though. As a SG, he's a huge liability on defense, and his dribbling makes me cringe unless he's making a half-court drive off of a pass. He can't be trusted to bring the ball up the court, or initiate an offense, IMO.
 
dviss1 said:
He's a rookie. He has better ballhandling skills than Lillard. (yes I said it). All video points to this.
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I agree. CJ is a good ball handler for a SG. At worst CJ will be a better Mo
 
Pinwheel1 said:
That's why I said SG. I don't think he is a PG at all, but for a SG his handles are pretty good. Better than Wes......I think there is a big difference between PG handles and SG handles.
CJ would be above average for a SG and well below average for a PG. IMO.
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This.
 
Is CJ bigger than Mo? Seems like it. Still small for a SG I agree but he'll be a better defender than Mo (I think). Stotts ran that Lillard Mo backcourt last season until I wanted to shoot myself. With more experience I'm hopeful a Lillard CJ pairing will be better if Stotts insists on running it. (Hey there's always hope LOL.)
 
PapaG said:
CJ will be an NBA All-Star? I'll take money on that bet right now.
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Ha ha. Not quite what I meant. :)

(Mo wasn't and all star in Portland and I doubt he'll be one next year either.)
 
BBert said:
Is CJ bigger than Mo? Seems like it. Still small for a SG I agree but he'll be a better defender than Mo (I think). Stotts ran that Lillard Mo backcourt last season until I wanted to shoot myself. With more experience I'm hopeful a Lillard CJ pairing will be better if Stotts insists on running it. (Hey there's always hope LOL.)
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The "at worst" qualifier is what caught my eye. Mo Williams isn't a bad NBA player, and CJ has a long way to go before I can even say he's had close to the impact in the NBA as Mo Williams. If the plan is to replace Mo's minutes with CJ, I'd actually feel better about it if Barton got those minutes over CJ. I just don't trust McCollum, and don't see that his skill-set is anything other than average in the NBA for a PG/SG combo.
 
PapaG said:
CJ's problem is he is the size of a PG, though. As a SG, he's a huge liability on defense, and his dribbling makes me cringe unless he's making a half-court drive off of a pass. He can't be trusted to bring the ball up the court, or initiate an offense, IMO.
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Nor can Wes or most other SG's.

As for a defensive liability....... he is no worse than MO and Mo played minutes in crunch time with Lillard. I wanted the Blazers to draft CJ, but it was always as a SG off the bench. Not a PG and not a starting SG. But he can still get 25 minutes a night. Small ball is in style for a lot of teams. Stotts will have plenty of opportunity to play him without getting abused on D.
 
PapaG said:
The "at worst" qualifier is what caught my eye. Mo Williams isn't a bad NBA player, and CJ has a long way to go before I can even say he's had close to the impact in the NBA as Mo Williams. If the plan is to replace Mo's minutes with CJ, I'd actually feel better about it if Barton got those minutes over CJ. I just don't trust McCollum, and don't see that his skill-set is anything other than average in the NBA for a PG/SG combo.
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Fair enough. I'm only viewing Mo through the lens of his one year in portland. I'm viewing CJ at least partially through the lens of my rose (actually Scarlett) colored glasses and what CJ may become in the future. I concede the fact base for my optimism is severely incomplete. ;)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Nor can Wes or most other SG's.

As for a defensive liability....... he is no worse than MO and Mo played minutes in crunch time with Lillard. I wanted the Blazers to draft CJ, but it was always as a SG off the bench. Not a PG and not a starting SG. But he can still get 25 minutes a night. Small ball is in style for a lot of teams. Stotts will have plenty of opportunity to play him without getting abused on D.
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The problem with this is that Mo played PG when Lillard was off of the court. So who plays PG in the 10 mpg that Lillard isn't on the court?
 
BBert said:
Fair enough. I'm only viewing Mo through the lens of his one year in portland. I'm viewing CJ at least partially through the lens of my rose (actually Scarlett) colored glasses and what CJ may become in the future. I concede the fact base for my optimism is severely incomplete. ;)
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Nothing wrong with optimism! I'm optimistic about this team as constructed, with a few changes to the bench. I'm not sure giving CJ Mo's minutes improves the bench at that position. :cheers:
 
PapaG said:
The problem with this is that Mo played PG when Lillard was off of the court. So who plays PG in the 10 mpg that Lillard isn't on the court?
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The new tall back up PG I want us to focus on getting with our MLE.
 
BigGameDamian said:
Does he have a name?
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Yes. I am pretty sure they all do.

Seriously though I would be ok with Livingston. Until they can find one in the draft. But I am not their scout. Find one that can play with Damian or CJ.
 
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Pinwheel1 said:
Yes. I am pretty sure they all do.

Seriously though I would be ok with Livingston. Until they can find one in the draft. But I am not their scout. Find one that can play with Damian or CJ.
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Livingston has serious a injury history and can't play defense. He was benched for Alan Anderson in the playoffs versus Toronto. For a year or two, sure, but I think someone is going to bite and offer him a larger contract than the Blazers can, and should, offer.
 
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PapaG said:
Livingston has serious a injury history and can't play defense. He was benched for Alan Anderson in the playoffs versus Toronto. For a year or two, sure, but I think someone is going to bite and offer him a larger contract than the Blazers can, and should, offer.
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He averaged 24 minutes a game against Toronto and 32 minutes a game against Miami in the playoffs. I just want 15 minutes a game for the Blazers.

True he not a defensive stopper, but against taller-slower SG guards, that apparently CJ is too short to cover, he would fit in just fine. It is the smaller/quicker PGs that he, and everyone else, has trouble staying in front of that he would have problems with. I am trying to be realistic and pick a guy that we can actually get. So that player is going to have flaws. But again we are only talking 15-17 minutes a game.

He is just one name. I am fine with someone better. But that's the type of player i want....a taller PG that can play with Damian and CJ for 15-17 minutes a game.
 
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