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The pseudo success of the Blazers in the bubble and the first game of the play-offs was the worst thing that could have happened to this franchise.

Like everyone else, I was so caught up in the excitement I took my eyes off the prize. The positives we thought we saw were an illusion. For this team to actually be relevant they need to replace Olshey, Stotts, and at least 4/5 of the roster. This team needs a complete, ruthless rebuild. Scorched earth from front office to the locker room. Nothing else will give the team a chance to be an actual contender.

Instead, an organization redolent with lazy cowards will continue to decay while pointing to events in the bubble as an excuse to do nothing. At some point tonight, I realised I had passed the frustration point and am now wallowing in utter disgust.

Interacting with you guys has been interesting, even fun. I wish you all health and happiness.
 
Hate to tell you this, but had they gone 0-8 in the bubble, the start of the 2020-21 season would likely look the same as it will after making the playoffs. Jodi isn't getting rid of Olshey. Olshey knows better than to piss off Dame and get rid of Stotts. Olshey did turn over a good chunk of the roster this year, like people wanted, and we got worse.

Ugly loss tonight, there will be more to come. 2nd longest playoff streak in the NBA. If you want to pull for a champion, you'd be much better off following a big market team. Hopefully you stay pulling for Rip City though!
 
We got Damian, we got Ninja, we got Nurk, we got veteran elitte shooter, we got best back up center in the league. I don't like Stotts at all, but melting down at 1-1 in playoffs is not normal. At least wait for g3.
 
This is a conversation for after we are eliminated from the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, feel free to discuss whatever you want but that's my opinion. We pull for our team to do their best and then hope they will make the best moves for the team's future going forward. Edit: Also, you are accusing many of us of being captives of the moment a moment that lasted 10 games while you are the captive of a moment that has lasted one.
 
The pseudo success of the Blazers in the bubble and the first game of the play-offs was the worst thing that could have happened to this franchise.

Like everyone else, I was so caught up in the excitement I took my eyes off the prize. The positives we thought we saw were an illusion. For this team to actually be relevant they need to replace Olshey, Stotts, and at least 4/5 of the roster. This team needs a complete, ruthless rebuild. Scorched earth from front office to the locker room. Nothing else will give the team a chance to be an actual contender.

Instead, an organization redolent with lazy cowards will continue to decay while pointing to events in the bubble as an excuse to do nothing. At some point tonight, I realised I had passed the frustration point and am now wallowing in utter disgust.

Interacting with you guys has been interesting, even fun. I wish you all health and happiness.


THANK YOU!

I tried to tell these guys
 
This is a conversation for after we are eliminated from the playoffs. Don't get me wrong, feel free to discuss whatever you want but that's my opinion. We pull for our team to do their best and then hope they will make the best moves for the team's future going forward. Edit: Also, you are accusing many of us of being captives of the moment a moment that lasted 10 games while you are the captive of a moment that has lasted one.

It’s over. Since the 1st quarter of game 1 these guys have outscored us easily. It hasn’t even been close.

This why I told ya let’s try next year and not get demolished by the lakers
 
It’s over. Since the 1st quarter of game 1 these guys have outscored us easily. It hasn’t even been close.

This why I told ya let’s try next year and not get demolished by the lakers
What you told me is that we would get swept... we're 1-1, which one of us is closer to being accurate? Remember I don't know how well we'll do in this series or series going forward, what we have discussed is whether playoff experience is important or not and whether building a winning culture by making the playoffs is important or not. I still think it's important for our team to play their best and get as far as they can and I still believe we have a chance and at 1-1 a pretty good chance.
 
What you told me is that we would get swept... we're 1-1, which one of us is closer to being accurate? Remember I don't know how well we'll do in this series or series going forward, what we have discussed is whether playoff experience is important or not and whether building a winning culture by making the playoffs is important or not. I still think it's important for our team to play their best and get as far as they can and I still believe we have a chance and at 1-1 a pretty good chance.

Dude we got lucky game 1. We won’t win another game. Mark my word
 
Usually it takes at least 3 losses in a row for anyone to completely melt down....I'm still cheering...I don't believe blowing it up solves anything or changes anything...you just become the Kings..y'all are welcome to not like the Blazers....I like them
 
One more chance for you to err on the side of negativity man.

Naw don’t be a homer. We can’t hang with this team. They’ve kicked our ass since the 1st quarter of game 1. You need a Lebron James to win championships
 
Naw don’t be a homer. We can’t hang with this team. They’ve kicked our ass since the 1st quarter of game 1. You need a Lebron James to win championships
We don't need a LeBron James to win championships, we have a Damian Lillard and a Jusuf Nurkic. After the playoffs are over, I'll talk about what I think Dame and Nurk need around them to be favorites to win championships.
 
We don't need a LeBron James to win championships, we have a Damian Lillard and a Jusuf Nurkic. After the playoffs are over, I'll talk about what I think Dame and Nurk need around them to be favorites to win championships.

Oh stop
 
Naw don’t be a homer. We can’t hang with this team. They’ve kicked our ass since the 1st quarter of game 1. You need a Lebron James to win championships
. We out scored the Lakers in the last two quarters of game 1 and inconsequentially in garbage time in the 4th. So data does not support you. We sucked in game 2. But letdowns happen. Let’s see what happens in game 3
 
The pseudo success of the Blazers in the bubble and the first game of the play-offs was the worst thing that could have happened to this franchise.

Like everyone else, I was so caught up in the excitement I took my eyes off the prize. The positives we thought we saw were an illusion. For this team to actually be relevant they need to replace Olshey, Stotts, and at least 4/5 of the roster. This team needs a complete, ruthless rebuild. Scorched earth from front office to the locker room. Nothing else will give the team a chance to be an actual contender.

Instead, an organization redolent with lazy cowards will continue to decay while pointing to events in the bubble as an excuse to do nothing. At some point tonight, I realised I had passed the frustration point and am now wallowing in utter disgust.

Interacting with you guys has been interesting, even fun. I wish you all health and happiness.

It's too late for a complete sacking. The series is tied as expected and that is the way we have to approach this series now. Also wishing you health and happiness bro.
 
Here's the thing. It's irrational to stay attached to a team where you are convinced it will just make you unhappy and you have no control. So your (oldmangrouch, AldoTrapani, et. al.) best bet is just to force yourself to reject the Blazers. Remove all things that remind you of the Blazers from your life. For God's sake get off these message boards. Do what you would do if the love of your life rejected you - cut them out of your life. It's for your own good. Don't try to save the rest of us - we're lost causes.
 
The pseudo success of the Blazers in the bubble and the first game of the play-offs was the worst thing that could have happened to this franchise.

Like everyone else, I was so caught up in the excitement I took my eyes off the prize. The positives we thought we saw were an illusion. For this team to actually be relevant they need to replace Olshey, Stotts, and at least 4/5 of the roster. This team needs a complete, ruthless rebuild. Scorched earth from front office to the locker room. Nothing else will give the team a chance to be an actual contender.

Instead, an organization redolent with lazy cowards will continue to decay while pointing to events in the bubble as an excuse to do nothing. At some point tonight, I realised I had passed the frustration point and am now wallowing in utter disgust.

Interacting with you guys has been interesting, even fun. I wish you all health and happiness.
the moodswings on this forum are crazy. I'd suggest to step away for a day.

We lost by nearly 30 against Denver in game 5 last year and won the next two. Bad losses happen in the playoffs. We have the kind of leadership to allow us to bounce back.
 
the moodswings on this forum are crazy. I'd suggest to step away for a day.

We lost by nearly 30 against Denver in game 5 last year and won the next two. Bad losses happen in the playoffs. We have the kind of leadership to allow us to bounce back.

Exactly. The time to assess the team and make course corrections is after the season is over, not in the middle of the battle. The Blazers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn last night. Some of it was defensive pressure, but mostly it was just cold shooting. They were due for one of those games. The Lakers were riled up and played very well, but I doubt that they can shoot as well from outside as they did last night on a continuing basis. They haven’t been a good shooting team all season and especially not in the bubble. Both teams have had an embarrassing loss in this series. Now is when it gets really interesting.
 
Exactly. The time to assess the team and make course corrections is after the season is over, not in the middle of the battle. The Blazers couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn last night. Some of it was defensive pressure, but mostly it was just cold shooting. They were due for one of those games. The Lakers were riled up and played very well, but I doubt that they can shoot as well from outside as they did last night on a continuing basis. They haven’t been a good shooting team all season and especially not in the bubble. Both teams have had an embarrassing loss in this series. Now is when it gets really interesting.
Gotta give their defense more credit than that. We were definitely going thru the motions, but they took out Dame completely with their ultra aggressive traps out at 40 feet. The trickle down effect from that was massive. Terry and Dame need to really study film and come up with counters. He needs to get off the ball quicker and do more of what Steph does.
 
Gotta give their defense more credit than that. We were definitely going thru the motions, but they took out Dame completely with their ultra aggressive traps out at 40 feet. The trickle down effect from that was massive. Terry and Dame need to really study film (like Stotts hasn't seem to have done for the past 8 years) and come up with counters. He needs to get off the ball quicker and do more of what Steph does.

Edited for clarity.
 
I think we forget at times that Anthony Davis is a perennial MVP and DPOY candidate. It's really hard to neutralize him

to be Fair, I think Dame has help us to forget alot of reality. Like what happens when Steph Curry is back next season?

Dame has been on a superstar level, but he isn't the only one who can do that.
 
Gotta give their defense more credit than that. We were definitely going thru the motions, but they took out Dame completely with their ultra aggressive traps out at 40 feet. The trickle down effect from that was massive. Terry and Dame need to really study film and come up with counters. He needs to get off the ball quicker and do more of what Steph does.

Yeah, but you have to acknowledge the cold shooting as well. Dame and CJ went 1-7 and 1-5 from 3. Melo was 1-6 overall and missed his only 3. Most of those shots were open looks. The Lakers are able to use AD to double Dame, which makes his job really difficult, just like it did in the Pelican series a few years back. That said, Dame had 18 points when he injured his finger with about 5 minutes to go in the 3rd. I have zero doubt he would have finished with 25 or more had he been able to play. Dame will get his points. The rest of the squad has to contribute more.
 
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