Hottest team in baseball is now in

[Brooksie5]

WOO HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Sad thing is.. it had to be on the same day as the big MNF game, so they won't get talked about much. And the Yankees won a game, so they will talk about that for five hours on Sportscenter. So the it'll say that the Twins won and then go on about the Yankees. Oh well, that's cool. We deserve this more than any team. Gardy for Manager of the Year (probably biased, but if we win the division it should happen considering no team should blow a 13 game, or whatever it was, lead). Boof is on fireeeeeee.

 

[NFLCCombs]

And only 18K there or something for it? I just don't get it...

 

[Nebkreb]

actually, no baseball games got any airtime. the MNF was played 45/60 minutes.

 

[Brooksie5]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Combs @ Sep 26 2006, 12:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And only 18K there or something for it? I just don't get it...</div>Yeah, it's kinda sad. It'll be full tonight with Johan on the mound, but I don't know what their problems are. I'd give almost anything for season tix to the Twins.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>actually, no baseball games got any airtime. the MNF was played 45/60 minutes.</div>Yeah, pretty boring.

 

[GotSkillz92]

The Mets clinched a long time ago buddy.

 

[FSUViking]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Mets clinched a long time ago buddy.</div><span style="font-family:Convection"><span style="font-size:10pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#6600CC">Big accomplishment in the National League. Considering nobody outside of the Mets has anything close to 90 wins, while the AL has 4 teams over 90. The A's, Twins, Tigers or Yankess would have "clinched a long tima ago" too if they were in the NL.......buddy.</span></span></span>

 

[GotSkillz92]

Too bad they arent in the NL buddy.

 

[Nebkreb]

yeah. the mets are good. but w/o Pedro, they have no chance against a lineup like the Twins (with Morneau/Mauer) let alone against the Yankees.

 

[GotSkillz92]

Pedro has all the time in the world to recover. We're in no hurry. He'll be back in time for at least the second round if we make it.

 

[Brooksie5]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Mets clinched a long time ago buddy.</div>I said hottest team. Not a team that got swept by the Pirates just a short while ago. Hottest means they've been the best team since June, and they've played GOOD teams, not the NL.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Sep 26 2006, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yeah. the mets are good. but w/o Pedro, they have no chance against a lineup like the Twins (with Morneau/Mauer) let alone against the Yankees.</div>Pedro pitched well in his second start back going with 4 No-Hit Innings before Running out of Gas in the Fifth. He just needs to rebuild his stamina and so that he can pitch 6 Innings because the Mets have one of the most dominant bullpen's in baseball so we only need 6 solid Innings from him. Im not too concerned, Pedro will be just fine.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Sep 26 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Mets clinched a long time ago buddy.</div>I said hottest team. Not a team that got swept by the Pirates just a short while ago. Hottest means they've been the best team since June, and they've played GOOD teams, not the NL.</div>8-11 Vs. Detroit3-3 Vs. Yankees6-4 Vs. OaklandJust because you played good teams doesnt mean you actually did anything against them...PS: That series against the Pirates was the SECOND TIME THIS ENTIRE SEASON WE WERE SWEPT. Why should we be worried about some pointless series when it was all but guaranteed we were going to clinch at that point in time anyways.

 

[Brooksie5]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (AdropOFvenom @ Sep 27 2006, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Sep 26 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 26 2006, 04:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Mets clinched a long time ago buddy.</div>I said hottest team. Not a team that got swept by the Pirates just a short while ago. Hottest means they've been the best team since June, and they've played GOOD teams, not the NL.</div>8-11 Vs. Detroit3-3 Vs. Yankees6-4 Vs. OaklandJust because you played good teams doesnt mean you actually did anything against them...PS: That series against the Pirates was the SECOND TIME THIS ENTIRE SEASON WE WERE SWEPT. Why should we be worried about some pointless series when it was all but guaranteed we were going to clinch at that point in time anyways.</div>Mets were only 6-9 vs the AL East. 3-3 vs the Yankees, just like the Twins. Only good teams the Mets have played are year (Red Sox and Yankees) they are 3-6 against. The Mets will make it the WS series probably not losing a game (unless they start Perez who is HORRIBLE). But after that, doubt they'll do anything.Three of the four playoff teams in the AL have a better record than the Mets, and the Tigers and Yankees are 10 games better than the Dodgers (2nd best team in the NL). I think if either the Twins/Yankees/Tigers were in the NL, they'd have their 100 wins already.The Twins may not have AMAZING record vs those teams, but if the Twins get homefield advantage, they should be 'Good to go'. They are 2-1 vs NYY at home, 6-4 vs DET at home, and 5-1 vs OAK at home. Not to mention Minnesota lost only twice to NL teams and they were both on the road. So we aren't the best road team no, but not many teams are. And we may have the best homefield advantage. Well they do have the best homefield advantage. It's not a maybe, it's a for sure. Their record at home (better than anyone else in baseball) should prove that.

 

[Rex Grossman 8]

1st round exit on the horizon.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brooksie5 @ Sep 27 2006, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Mets were only 6-9 vs the AL East. 3-3 vs the Yankees, just like the Twins. Only good teams the Mets have played are year (Red Sox and Yankees) they are 3-6 against. The Mets will make it the WS series probably not losing a game (unless they start Perez who is HORRIBLE). But after that, doubt they'll do anything.Three of the four playoff teams in the AL have a better record than the Mets, and the Tigers and Yankees are 10 games better than the Dodgers (2nd best team in the NL). I think if either the Twins/Yankees/Tigers were in the NL, they'd have their 100 wins already.The Twins may not have AMAZING record vs those teams, but if the Twins get homefield advantage, they should be 'Good to go'. They are 2-1 vs NYY at home, 6-4 vs DET at home, and 5-1 vs OAK at home. Not to mention Minnesota lost only twice to NL teams and they were both on the road. So we aren't the best road team no, but not many teams are. And we may have the best homefield advantage. Well they do have the best homefield advantage. It's not a maybe, it's a for sure. Their record at home (better than anyone else in baseball) should prove that.</div>First of all, Oliver Perez is our 7th Starter Right Now. The only reason he is even starting is to rest our starting pitchers a bit as we are scheduled to play our last 33 Games in only 34 Days, so we opted to go with a 6 man rotation, plus we opted to go with him Instead of somebody better like Dave Williams hoping he could work his way out of his slump, as he was Dominant for the Pirates just a couple of years ago. He has no chance to even make the playoff roster.Second of all, The Mets were 5-4 in Interleague play until the Mets hit a slump the final week. The Mets took 2 of 3 from the Yankees at Shea, and would have swept them if it wasnt for a Meltdown by Billy Wagner in a non-save Situation. The Mets also took 2 of 3 from the Toronto Blue Jays who may very well end up finishing ahead of Boston. You can act like the AL is so superior in your Circle-Jerk Session with the Yankees, A's and Tigers fans all you want, but don't look past the Mets otherwise the AL is going to end up losing the World Series.

 

[DevinHester23]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rex Grossman 8 @ Sep 27 2006, 02:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1st round exit on the horizon.</div>For your Cardinals, yeah, if they make it. :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO: :LMAO:That collapse would be worse than the 69 Cubs or what the White Sox could have gone thru last year

 

[Nebkreb]

u cant have Pedro going 6 innings...u need him and Glavnie to go deep. Because you cant count on Duque and ur young guys to give u a lot of innings, so u need to save ur Pen for those games. Thats what i always loved about David Cone. even when he was older and not as good, in the playoffs, he would ALWAYS reach hte 7th or 8th ining, with the game close. He was great to eat up innings to save our Pen.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Sep 27 2006, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>u cant have Pedro going 6 innings...u need him and Glavnie to go deep. Because you cant count on Duque and ur young guys to give u a lot of innings, so u need to save ur Pen for those games. Thats what i always loved about David Cone. even when he was older and not as good, in the playoffs, he would ALWAYS reach hte 7th or 8th ining, with the game close. He was great to eat up innings to save our Pen.</div>What people dont realize is that the Mets Bullpen is 7 men deep.Billy Wagner - 2.18 ERA, 1.08 WHIPAaron Heilman - 3.60 ERA, 1.16 WHIPGuillermo Mota - 1.13 ERA, 0.94 WHIPRoberto Hernandez - 3.38 ERA, 1.07 WHIPPedro Feliciano - 2.16 ERA, 1.23 WHIPChad Bradford - 2.85 ERA, 1.15 WHIPDarren Oliver - 3.49 ERA, 1.14 WHIPOur pen will be just fine with that kind of depth. God forbid we have to use Chad Bradford instead of Guillermo Mota in the 7th Inning of Game 4. :whistling: My main concern is the starting pitching after last night though, Pedro looks bad and like he doesnt have that confidence he normally does. If thats the case I dont want him pitching in the Postseason at all, Maine has been good enough this season to be deserving of a start in the Postseason.

 

[GotSkillz92]

Exactly Venom. Everyone on the bullpen excluding Billy has had more innings thrown than the year before. Theyre all workhorses and are used to pitching a lot of innings. All of them have special abilitys which makes this bullpen so special. Are we getting Duaner back though?they said done for the season but not playoffs. i think i asked this b4.

 

[Nebkreb]

ur SP is truly garbage, which is a shame because ur Bullpen is so good, and ur lineup is so talented. You have 2 aging stars (pedro and glavine) who can barely pitch, 1 random guy (Duque) and young guns. I think u may have to wait a year or two.

 

[GotSkillz92]

lol you guys have 2 aging stars( Randy and Mussina) who can barely pitch. best starter in wang and nothing else. Once again we only need 6 or 7 innings from pitchers because of our pen. You guys need to rely more on pitching.

 

[Jon_Vilma]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GotSkillz92 @ Sep 28 2006, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol you guys have 2 aging stars( Randy and Mussina) who can barely pitch. best starter in wang and nothing else. Once again we only need 6 or 7 innings from pitchers because of our pen. You guys need to rely more on pitching.</div>You are talking out of your ass.

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Sep 28 2006, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ur SP is truly garbage, which is a shame because ur Bullpen is so good, and ur lineup is so talented. You have 2 aging stars (pedro and glavine) who can barely pitch, 1 random guy (Duque) and young guns. I think u may have to wait a year or two.</div>I wouldn't call it garbage, if anything its a bit underrated. Orlando Hernandez has pitched great coming down the stretch. In his last 5 starts he has allowed 7 Earned Runs in 32.1 Innings and is pitching some of the best baseball of the year. Plus you Yankees fans know as well as we do that El Duque is Clutch when it comes to pitching in Big Games. Tom Glavine also has pitched pretty well coming down the stretch, only giving up 8 Earned Runs in 26.1 Innings in his last 4 Starts. Not to mention he has a 14-7 record on the season and an ERA under 4. John Maine has been argueably our best Starting Pitcher this season, posting a 3.64 ERA and a 1.14 WHIP in his 84 Innings this season. Yes, he is young but he seems like the kind of pitcher who wouldnt fall apart in the big stage by what I've seen from him this season. Steve Trachsel is 15-8 as a pitcher this season, yes, he hasnt pitched great but he is leading the league in Run Support and as long as the hitters keep putting up an average of like 8 runs for him a start, I couldn't care less how he pitches. lolYes, we definately need to get Younger and Better this offseason, but with the Weak NL I dont see any reason why they couldn't get the job done well enough even without Pedro Martinez. We did win something like 80 plus games that Pedro Martinez did not start this season. :whistling:

 

[Nebkreb]

the weak NL will do niothing, but u aint beating the yanks, Twins As or Tigers in the WS. pedros out. Glavine is doing bad. Duque is nothing close to what he was. he will give u one GEM, and nothinf else. Trachsel is steve trachsel. maine is a rookie.Randy Johnson is not as good as when he was younger, but he still won 17 games, and got big SOs. Wang is a Cy young 3rd place (behind hallady and santana). Mussina is a great pitcher, especially on the road. id take Mussina/Randy/Wang over Glavine/Duque/Trachsel 7 days a week.

 

[GotSkillz92]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Sep 28 2006, 10:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the weak NL will do niothing, but u aint beating the yanks, Twins As or Tigers in the WS. pedros out. Glavine is doing bad. Duque is nothing close to what he was. he will give u one GEM, and nothinf else. Trachsel is steve trachsel. maine is a rookie.Randy Johnson is not as good as when he was younger, but he still won 17 games, and got big SOs. Wang is a Cy young 3rd place (behind hallady and santana). Mussina is a great pitcher, especially on the road. id take Mussina/Randy/Wang over Glavine/Duque/Trachsel 7 days a week.</div>Your are talking out of your ass.

 

[Nebkreb]

really...and how is that?

 

[AdropOFvenom]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Nebkreb @ Sep 28 2006, 06:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the weak NL will do niothing, but u aint beating the yanks, Twins As or Tigers in the WS. pedros out. Glavine is doing bad. Duque is nothing close to what he was. he will give u one GEM, and nothinf else. Trachsel is steve trachsel. maine is a rookie.</div>Yes, Pedro is out. But since May 1st, the Mets are 6-12 in Games in Which Pedro Martinez has started with an ERA of Exactly 5. He has played hurt just about the entire season and hasnt been effective for most of it. Do you really think he is going to be such a critical loss when he contributed little to nothing to our Success after April? El Duque has an ERA of 1.69 his past 6 starts. Including Tonights Game, he has allowed 7 ER in his past 37.1 Innings. Old Man can still get the job done.Glavine is doing bad? Over his past 4 starts he has an ERA of 2.75 while allowing only 8 ER in his past 26.1 Innings. He has come back refreshed from his 'scare' and has pitched Great Baseball as of late. John Maine is a rookie. So what? He is a part of a heavy veteran pitching staff to keep him from getting too excited, and I dont think he is the kind of pitcher who will crack under pressure. Fact of the matter is he has a 3.64 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP and he has done well in Big Games in the Regular Season. I'll take my chances with him. Steve Trachsel is Steve Trachsel, but he is also a 4th Starter after Pedro's injury who will likely only Start One Game. He is also leading the league in Run Support. As long as our bats can give him some decent run production, which they almost always do, we will be fine.Even without Pedro, the Mets can play with anybody in the league because of a Dominant Lineup and a Dominant Bullpen to compliment their decent starting pitching, and you are being completely foolish if you honestly think otherwise.

 

[Nebkreb]

they can play with anyone in the NATIONAL league.and your defense of losing ur #1 guy is that he wasnt that good to begin with?? you cannot seriously think the mets would be better off with Steve Trachsel than Pedro (when healthy).Rookie are uncertains. alot of rookie pitch great in "big" games duringt he regular season and crack during the postseason. all im saying is we dont know.