How About A "Toxic Offer" For This Guy?

[ABM]

...or, perhaps, a mid-season trade?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...lug=aw-gaygrizzlies110209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

 

[BrianFromWA]

Because a scoring 3/2 is what we're missing right now?

 

[magnifier661]

...or, perhaps, a mid-season trade?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_y...lug=aw-gaygrizzlies110209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Absolutely not. I get tired of bringing in offensive weapons when we proved already, we sucked last season guarding the perimeter. It was almost embarrassing.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm interested in a few players at the trade deadline ... Gay aint one of 'em.

 

[MIXUM]

Gay would be awesome. I met him at an olive garden in manchester ct when he played for uconn.


He would also kinda heal the durant sting... oden/gay > durant

 

[MIXUM]

gay should be. hes exactly what the blazers love and need.

a scoring SF with potential

fuck.... i forgot they can match

 

[Nikolokolus]

gay should be. hes exactly what the blazers love and need.

a scoring SF with potential

fuck.... i forgot they can match

Match what? We've got no cap-space this summer. Secondly you do realize he's basically Travis Outlaw with more hype and more touches right?

 

[MIXUM]

sign and trade....

we are also losing blake, joel and outlaw...

miller/rudy
roy/webster
gay/batum
la/?
oden/?

gay is sooooo much better then outlaw. hes exactly what we need. a 3rd scorer

 

[B-Roy]

Match what? We've got no cap-space this summer. Secondly you do realize he's basically Travis Outlaw with more hype and more touches right?

Well I wouldn't say that....he's significantly better at driving. A bit worse at shooting the jumper, but just as clueless on defense.

 

[Minstrel]

gay should be. hes exactly what the blazers love and need.

a scoring SF with potential

Oh? That's what Portland needs?

A player who put up a 15.1 PER, while scoring at a .541 true shooting percentage (which factors in free throws and the greater value of three-pointers) and a fairly average (for position) 9.1 Rebound Rate with questionable defense? That does sound like a solid wing role-player who can score a bit.

Oh, sorry. That was Outlaw. Here's Gay: 15.3 PER / .528 TS% / 9.1 Rebound Rate. With questionable defense.

Of course, Gay did have a slightly better Assist Rate. However, he also had a greater turnover rate.

Rudy Gay: Travis Outlaw with a better name brand. And the concomitant higher cost.

 

[Minstrel]

\Secondly you do realize he's basically Travis Outlaw with more hype and more touches right?

Damn, beat me to it. And in less wordy fashion.

 

[MIXUM]

lol.... ok you keep outlaw

i will take rudy

 

[ABM]

lol.... ok you keep outlaw

i will take rudy

You tell 'em, MIXUM!

 

[MARIS61]

He's currently the 3rd/4th option on the Grizzlies.

He should have taken the money while he could get it.

 

[MIXUM]

amazing how some fans never learn. just like we couldnt trade sergio or batum

ask any gm in the nba... outlaw or rudy gay

i would bet anything.... theres no hesitation

 

[Minstrel]

lol.... ok you keep outlaw

i will take rudy

Good analysis. "I can't refute the fact that Gay hasn't actually out-produced Outlaw, so lol guys!!!!111"

 

[MIXUM]

so minstrel..... i come to you and say "outlaw for gay" and your gonna turn me away?

stop

 

[BenDavis503]

I would be VERY interested in Rudy Gay. He and Brandon = new age Jordan\Pippen. Matched with Batum and Rudy coming off the bench? Sign me up.

What would it take to get him?

 

[Ed O]

He's currently the 3rd/4th option on the Grizzlies.

He should have taken the money while he could get it.

He definitely should have. I think that he is going to be one of a large number of guys who are going to regret turning down big contracts when the new CBA kicks in.

Ed O.

 

[LameR]

so minstrel..... i come to you and say "outlaw for gay" and your gonna turn me away?

stop

You're not saying Outlaw for Gay. You're saying Outlaw, Blake, and Joel for Gay. If you want to switch Outlaw and Gay straight up be my guest. I'm not a huge fan of Blake, but I think Joel will be coming back.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I would be VERY interested in Rudy Gay. He and Brandon = new age Jordan\Pippen. Matched with Batum and Rudy coming off the bench? Sign me up.

What would it take to get him?

Uh, no. That could apply if we had Carmelo, not Rudy Gay.

I like Rudy but his arguing with Mayo lately raises red flags.

 

[Minstrel]

so minstrel..... i come to you and say "outlaw for gay" and your gonna turn me away?

I think they're substantially similar players, so at the salaries each will command, I'd much rather keep Outlaw. Outlaw makes role-player salary for role-player production. Gay might make significantly more for role-player production.

If I could have either one for Outlaw's salary, I'd probably pick Gay because he's a couple of years younger so may improve a bit more (of course, he stagnated after his first couple of seasons, so that's far from a guarantee).

stop

You're not the boss of me.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I think Rudy Gay has more potential to be a better player than Outlaw when he hits his prime, but right now the difference between the two is pretty thin in my opinion ... Gay is a better ball handler and finisher, I'll give him that, but what else? I can't really think of anything.

Besides Mixum, who is saying we can't trade anybody? If it were Martell, Outlaw, Blake and Bayless for Gerald Wallace and DJ Augustin I'd be all over that ... hell I would have traded Nic for Wallace last year when it was reportedly on the table, but c'est la vie. I've got nothing to learn because I'm just a fan and don't make the call on trades -- that's up to KP and the rest of management.

 

[Minstrel]

hell I would have traded Nic for Wallace last year when it was reportedly on the table, but c'est la vie.

The only thing that would give me pause on that is Wallace's injury issues. Outside of that, I'd have done that deal, too, as much as I love Batum. Even with his lack of durability, I may still have done it.

 

[BrianFromWA]

I would be VERY interested in Rudy Gay. He and Brandon = new age Jordan\Pippen. Matched with Batum and Rudy coming off the bench? Sign me up.

What would it take to get him?

Even under the assumption that Roy = New Age Jordan, I'm thinking Gay's a bit behind Pippen in the "All Time Greatest Defenders Team" category, the "Point Forward Capability" category and the "Best Player on the Court, Except When He's Playing With Jordan" category.

Unless, Roy = Pippen and Gay = Jordan?

 

[Minstrel]

Unless, Roy = Pippen and Gay = Jordan?

Exactly. Gay is nowhere near Pippen-caliber, but he might be able to measure up to Jordan.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jordare01.html

 

[barfo]

Quite off-topic, who is that in your avatar, Minstrel? She looks like someone I'd like to get to know.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

Quite off-topic, who is that in your avatar, Minstrel? She looks like someone I'd like to get to know.

Contrary to popular belief, the devil is female. And my girlfriend.

Well, soon-to-be girlfriend. She doesn't know yet. I'm sortof stalking her.

 

[barfo]

Contrary to popular belief, the devil is female. And my girlfriend.

Well, soon-to-be girlfriend. She doesn't know yet. I'm sortof stalking her.

I'll fight ya for her? Dawn, 20 paces. You choose the weapons.

barfo

 

[Minstrel]

I'll fight ya for her? Dawn, 20 paces. You choose the weapons.

The only proper duel is with blunderbusses. You win the duel either by shooting the other person first or having the other person blow his/her own head off (assuming you don't do the same to yourself).