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You got blasted because it sucked then and still sucks now.
How about this outrageous trade idea... (1 Viewer)
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It would be but what do we do with Wes? Play him at SF?
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I just do not see Portland playing 2 starters that are not long distance shooters. We have seen that MyLe was started instead of T-Rob when LMA was sick. Having Rondo and RoLo in the same starting line is going to require a big adjustment for the offensive game. I just do not see Portland being interested.
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I think Blazers4ever is suggesting the following starting lineup after the trade:
5 - Rolo
4 - LA
3 - Wes
2 - Dame
1 - Rondo
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OR HOW ABOUT HIBBERT FOR WES!
starting lineup:
1. dame
2. nic
3 LMA
4 Kaman
5 hibbert
rolo off the bench!
WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE!
starting lineup:
1. dame
2. nic
3 LMA
4 Kaman
5 hibbert
rolo off the bench!
WE WOULD BE UNSTOPPABLE!
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GREAT IDEA!!!!
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Personally, I believe we should have 3 players (proficient in 3-pt shooting) on the floor at all times with Stotts' offensive system.
The Rondo trade would remove that from our current starting core.
The Rondo trade would remove that from our current starting core.
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This reminds me, last night I was watching the Denver -OKC game and at one point Denver's offense looked ugly and I looked at who they had on the floor and it included some good players. But with two players who can't shoot a open shot beyond 8 feet (Faried and Mozgov) they really struggled. Now they did clean up on the boards, but it reminded me of our bad run with Gerald Wallace. You really do need 4 players on the court who can keep the defense honest.
Terry has a good recipe for success IMO
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That bad character in an NBA champion.
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You're giving up a lot of size in such a deal. The Blazers will never go anywhere meaningful with a undersized starting two and three. And that's what Rondo or Dame and Wes would be.
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First off I hate the idea of any in season trade that sends out a starter. Even if we upgrade the talent there is no time to build the familiarity necessary to win in the postseason. There hasn't been an NBA champion who added a major starter during the season since we sent Clyde to the Rockets 20 years ago. And those Rockets were an abnormal case already being the defending champs. Any major roster changes need to happen in the offseason.
Secondly I think this trade proposal is a bad idea because Lillard and Aldridge need players who compliment them, outside shooting is critical from their teammates and Rondo is terrible at that. Nic is a great outside shooter. The defense would be able to cheat on Lillard & Aldridge pick and roles so we could no longer use those.
Rondo needs the ball in his hands to be effective and that removes the ball from Aldridge and Lillard.
Rondo can walk as a free agent in a few months. If Rondo didn't fit with the team this trade could hurt our chance of resigning LaMarcus which currently is more of a lock. So much potential downside to this trade and little upside. I'd love to add Rondo's talent in a vacuum but this isn't fantasy basketball where the only thing that matters is stats.
Secondly I think this trade proposal is a bad idea because Lillard and Aldridge need players who compliment them, outside shooting is critical from their teammates and Rondo is terrible at that. Nic is a great outside shooter. The defense would be able to cheat on Lillard & Aldridge pick and roles so we could no longer use those.
Rondo needs the ball in his hands to be effective and that removes the ball from Aldridge and Lillard.
Rondo can walk as a free agent in a few months. If Rondo didn't fit with the team this trade could hurt our chance of resigning LaMarcus which currently is more of a lock. So much potential downside to this trade and little upside. I'd love to add Rondo's talent in a vacuum but this isn't fantasy basketball where the only thing that matters is stats.
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Jeff Green and Rondo for Batum and _______. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
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Thanks for saying what I was too lazy to. Plus we'd be too short. Plus chemistry. Etc. Etc. Etc.
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it's because it does suck.
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hahahaha repped.
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I don't think it should be about positions. It should be about the best team on the floor. Rondo and Lillard are very different players, if anything, Rondo is most like Batum.
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Yes, there has. The Pistons traded for Rasheed Wallace in 2004 and a few months later, they won the championship.
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A french Rondo just sounds weird in my head.
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Welcome back buddy! I wondered what happened to you since those rubes in Minnesota let you go.
You are a true innovator my man, a real visionary. They laughed when you first tried to implement your APGATT (All Point Guard All The Time) scheme in Minny, but what do they know? They also laughed at Christopher Columbus when he said you could go east by sailing west, but hey the guy discovered America, didn't he? Nevermind there were already millions of people living here, they didn't know they hadn't been discovered, so it still counts, right? And then, he made the greatest movie ever, "Home Alone". Frickin' genius! Way to stick to your guns! You are the Christoper Columbus of NBA GMs!
Trading our starting small forward for a point guard when we already have an All-Star starting point guard and an adequate back-up seems like pure lunacy to the unenlightened, but I see where you're going with this.
Oh sure, Rondo is an abysmal 3-point shooter (.257 career 3fg%) that would be a HORRIBLE fit in Stotts' system. But that's where your true genius shines through. You've been wanting to see Stotts fired since the first game of the season. This trade is a clever way of getting EXACTLY what you want. Hell, Neal wouldn't even have to fire Stotts if he makes this trade. Stotts would up and quit on the spot, right after he punches Olshey in the wiener for fucking up a good thing. Maybe he could get Nic to do it for him as his revenge for Olshey sending him to a crappy team:
Oh, and sure, Rondo does all his scoring from midrange and in the paint and that makes him a horrible fit next to our 3-time All-Star power forward and leading scorer, but I assume this is just move one of many. You still need at least two more PGs to successfully implement your APGATT scheme. I'm sure we could trade Aldidge for some other over the hill, past his prime, often injured, overpaid, not really as good as he thinks he is, PG like Deron Williams. I'm sure the Nets would be down with an Aldridge for Deron is Deron swap.
And, then maybe we would send Lopez back to Phoenix for Dragic or Thomas and a twin to be named later. And, why are all the twins in the NBA big men? This is where you can really make your mark. Forget scouting Europe for the next Dirk. There will NEVER be another Dirk.
It wasn't this guy:
Or this guy:
Or this guy:
Or even this guy:
The last two are my homage to PBF. He seriously wanted to use high lottery picks on those last two guys. He always did have a boner for really big, goofy looking guys with unpronounceable names that came out of nowhere and then promptly returned there.
No, don't waste your time scouting the European, or even Asian leagues, you should be scouting the CYO leagues looking for the future of the NBA - twin PGs. That's where you can further make your mark!
The only other potential flaw I see in your trade proposal, is the fact that Rondo shoots FTs nearly as bad (.616 career FT%, and falling, .333 this year) as Dwight Howard (.573 career FT%). Now, the last thing you want in the 4th quarter of a close game is a guy who can't hit a FT to save his life to be the guy with the ball in his hands (Hack-a-Rondo anyone?). But, being the genius you are, you've thought of everything! If we make this trade and your APGATT vision finally comes to fruition, there won't be any such thing as a close game entering the 4th quarter. Point == Moot! Problem == Solved!
Right about now, I'm sure the OP is confused as fuck by everything I've written. Good. If there's one thing I've learned after many years participating in this forum it's the best way to win any, and every, argument is to confuse your adversary to the point where they give up. I call it jlprking. Still confused? Good, that's the point. Think of it as larping for losers.
Finally, condolences to BGD. You can no longer lay claim to the title of the worst trade proposal EVER. Don't feel too bad though. Blazer4ever may now hold the single trade record, but you are still the career leader in Bad Trade Proposals and a first ballot BTP HOFer based on your extensive body of work. Blazer4ever may be the Michael Jordan of Bad Trade Proposals, but you are the Kareem.
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Welcome back buddy! I wondered what happened to you since those rubes in Minnesota let you go.
Trading our starting small forward for a point guard when we already have an All-Star starting point guard and an adequate back-up seems like pure lunacy to the unenlightened, but I see where you're going with this.
Oh sure, Rondo is an abysmal 3-point shooter (.257 career 3fg%) that would be a HORRIBLE fit in Stotts' system. But that's where your true genius shines through. You've been wanting to see Stotts fired since the first game of the season. This trade is a clever way of getting EXACTLY what you want. Hell, Neal wouldn't even have to fire Stotts if he makes this trade.
Oh, and sure, Rondo does all his scoring from midrange and in the paint and that makes him a horrible fit next to our 3-time All-Star power forward and leading scorer, but I assume this is just move one of many.
make your mark!
The only other potential flaw I see in your trade proposal, is the fact that Rondo shoots FTs nearly as bad (.616 career FT%, and falling, .333 this year) as Dwight Howard (.573 career FT%). Now, the last thing you want in the 4th quarter of a close game is a guy who can't hit a FT to save his life to be the guy with the ball in his hands (Hack-a-Rondo)
BNM
I think we have very good 3 point shooting in Lillard and Wesley.
Rondo brings something different than Batum, he's the most natural PG in the league while Batum is a point-forward and he gets his points differently, but he's also an amazing player. As good an all-around player as Batum and while he maybe dominates the ball too much Batum has the opposite fault of sometimes being too passive.
I like both players very much and I think both, while different, can play a similar role in many ways. You say Batum's shooting is needed in Stotts' system but maybe Rondo's ability to break the defense and create off the dribble would actually make Stotts system better? This isn't a Pippen-type no-brainer trade but I think it has a good chance of succeeding, and while getting Rondo for Dorrel Wright, Victor Claver and a 2nd rounder could have been great I'm sure it isn't realistic and there's just so much playing time to go around.
Lillard would play much more of a SG role but I think being able to also play off the ball is something that benefits him. I think there are at least as much to gain from such trade as there are risks, I think it's a good trade.
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Like I said, I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to trading either Wes or Nic, but not for a point guard. That makes no sense at all.
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You know what lineup won us the game against the Pelicans? The regular starters with Blake instead of Nic.
