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On a scale of the Teletubbies to Archie Bunker, how pissed will I be if we miss out on Nicola Jovic?
 
sub teletubbies. He plays ZERO defense. Not what the team needs. I would much rather have Zach Collins. Pat Riley is clearly an exceptional judge of talent. What are the odds that he gives up a guy he sees as a future star in this sort of a trade?

Dame is forcing the trade and will pout unless he is a fucking Heat. Other teams won't touch Dame with a 10 ft pole because he could throw a tantrum and just ask out. AGAIN. That is why the league released the memo. All of it had the same effect, even if it wasn't the league's intention: Dame is happy in MIA and that's it. The league probably did Pat a favor by releasing the memo. Signals to MIA that Dame is mansion shopping in MIA.

So, no, I don't see Riley wringing his hands with sweaty brow over losing Jovic. I play the odds.
 
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Mediocre Man said:
On a scale of the Teletubbies to Archie Bunker, how pissed will I be if we miss out on Nicola Jovic?
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I don't know about you... but for me Miami needs to send out Herro and two out of Jovic, Jaquez and Martin along with their first rounders. Anything less than that and I'm more than Archie Bunker level pissed off. I think Miami values Martin more than Jovic or Jaquez so I expect it to be those two prospects but maybe I'm wrong.

Some fans of our team in this forum think it should be Herro, Jovic, Jaquez, Martin, all of the Heat's picks and no bad contracts or they'll be Archie Bunker pissed off. I don' think that's realistic but if that's Joe's breaking point I could see why.

Jovic by himself isn't a deal maker or breaker for me but if he isn't part of this deal it'll just be one more piece that has some value that the Heat are withholding in a deal where they most definitely will not send out equal value for the asset they are getting. So I think Jovic should be part of the deal and I kind of think he will be but again if we can get better value from a fourth team for Martin then maybe that's better than Jovic.
 
Cugel said:
sub teletubbies. He plays ZERO defense. Not what the team needs. I would much rather have Zach Collins.
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Is Zach done with all his injuries? If so sure

I am not sure we know yet if Jovic's defense is as horrible as you suggest. But to your point, most stretch 4s are not usually all NBA defenders. However, they can be very effective if they fit with the rest of the team. I mean Michael Porter Jr. is not exactly a great defender. For the future, if we have a 4 who can score (and pass) it allows us to start a Center or SF who is more defensive-minded but who might be limited offensively. (assuming our guards can score) We want a team full of 2-way players but I don't think that is realistic.
 
Teletubbies.
He wasn’t even born in the states? How can he be any good? SOFT.
 
kjironman1 said:
Teletubbies.
He wasn’t even born in the states? How can he be any good? SOFT.
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I'm not saying he will be a superstar but what if he's a role playing starter level of these two SOFT players who weren't even born in the states?
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What's the story really? His name is almost Jokic. What else? Why is he such a big deal?
 
blazerfan11 said:
I don't understand.
Is Jovic good on offense?
Where would Jovic be on a list of players you'd want in return for Damian Lillard?
He wouldn't be on my list at all.


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those are 3rd string rookie bench stats. Garbage time cleanup, no actual rotation time. It would be like comparing Jovic stats to John Butler stats before the 12 game lose for Scoot tankathon. Very limited action
 
Mediocre Man said:
So misinformed. I blame myself
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blazerkor said:
I don't know about you... but for me Miami needs to send out Herro and two out of Jovic, Jaquez and Martin along with their first rounders. Anything less than that and I'm more than Archie Bunker level pissed off. I think Miami values Martin more than Jovic or Jaquez so I expect it to be those two prospects but maybe I'm wrong.

Some fans of our team in this forum think it should be Herro, Jovic, Jaquez, Martin, all of the Heat's picks and no bad contracts or they'll be Archie Bunker pissed off. I don' think that's realistic but if that's Joe's breaking point I could see why.
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I think that getting Jovic, Martin, and their 2028 and 2030 unprotected 1sts + pick swaps in 2027 with Herro would be a great haul. I don’t know how to feel about Jacquez, but I know Martin would be a great weapon playing off Scoot right away. Obviously, Martin is the guy Miami would want to keep if Dame is on the team, so I would ask for Jovic, Jacquez and they also have to move their 2025 1st obligation to 2026 so we get the 2024 1st as well.

If Jovic, Jacquez, 3 1sts + Clowney, Simmons, and a 2026 1st for Herro is a pretty good haul.
 
BankTeller said:
I think that getting Jovic, Martin, and their 2028 and 2030 unprotected 1sts + pick swaps in 2027 with Herro would be a great haul. I don’t know how to feel about Jacquez, but I know Martin would be a great weapon playing off Scoot right away. Obviously, Martin is the guy Miami would want to keep if Dame is on the team, so I would ask for Jovic, Jacquez and they also have to move their 2025 1st obligation to 2026 so we get the 2024 1st as well.

If Jovic, Jacquez, 3 1sts + Clowney, Simmons, and a 2026 1st for Herro is a pretty good haul.
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That trade would be phenomenal but I'm not holding my breath for one that good. Still fingers crossed! I do think that the Nets would have to take on Duncan Robinson's contract for that to work.
 
It seems like for years every post I read by Mediocre Man, he's angry.
 
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