How are you feeling about President Trump?

[Jade Falcon]

Apparently he was doing Mussolini's thing up to now. I look forward to the change!

From admired and loved President-Elect to admired and loved President?

 

[Denny Crane]

Why is that all that matters?

Clinton is worse. By a lot.

I couldn't be happier she lost.

And Trump is president if it's a one man band that plays at his parties.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I'm pretty sure it's going to be a clown show. I don't know if I'm "afraid" but I'm definitely not very optimistic about his administration based on most of his cabinet appointments and his erratic behavior.

FWIW, I think Hillary would have been a negative outcome too.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Clinton is worse. By a lot.

I couldn't be happier she lost.

Not even if Gary Johnson won? Cuz he's starting to feel like your vote wasn't sincere.

 

[Denny Crane]

Not even if Gary Johnson won? Cuz he's starting to feel like your vote wasn't sincere.

If he won, she still loses.

He is clearly better than her or Trump.

It's not my fault you put all your eggs in the crook's basket.

For all the crap you post about Trump, the facts about Clinton are worse.

She has actual ties to Russia and oligarchs there.

The spewage and ignorance of her offensiveness is stunning.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

And Trump is president if it's a one man band that plays at his parties.

Aw shit - really? I was hoping that a celebrity boycott would be the thing that took him down. Once again I have misplaced my faith in the Entertainment Industry!

 

[Rastapopoulos]

For all the crap you post about Trump, the facts about Clinton are worse.

Why has the MSM hid all these facts from me! I shall have to start going to Breitbart more.

She has actual ties to Russia and oligarchs there.

What, the ones Putin had arrested? No wonder she doesn't like him!

The spewage and ignorance of her offensiveness is stunning.

I'm not quite sure I know what that sentence means, but I'm just grateful you managed to get through a post without asking who's playing at the Clinton Inauguration. Maybe the meds are kicking in.

 

[Denny Crane]

Aw shit - really? I was hoping that a celebrity boycott would be the thing that took him down. Once again I have misplaced my faith in the Entertainment Industry!

You're posting away as if it did matter. Looks petty to me, all the way around.

 

[Rhal]

Firs time in my life i'v voted for a liberation candidate for president, although i'm only 30 so its not like i'v had a lot of chances to vote for a president. I'm pretty much opposite of Denny where I didn't like Hillary or Trump but I think Trump is far worse then Hillary and while I don't think Trump is going to screw things up that badly in the US, if a lot of damage is done in the US you can blame the house/senate for that, its that with how erratic and aggressive his behavior is I can see him slipping up easily and screwing up our foreign relations badly with every other world power on the planet.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ignorance is bliss, apparently.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/...ssed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?_r=0

 

[3RA1N1AC]

My choice would probably be between "ffs, we voted a crybaby reality star president." And "I really didn't want Hillary but not sure if this is worse".

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

We get our news and opinion from clowns. Real life clowns.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-skelton-donald-trump-inauguration-20170119-story.html

Trump's inauguration is a reminder that rebelling against the ruling class is in America's DNA

Millions of Californians will click on their TVs Friday and groan. They’ll wince as the unthinkable becomes a reality. Can you say President Trump? It’s painful.

Yes, he’s a terrible choice for all the reasons that need no listing here. He’s not California’s choice, but he is most states’.

And, yes, although it sticks in Donald Trump’s craw — to borrow an idiom commonly used by my late working-class parents — he won despite having received roughly 2.9 million fewer votes nationally than Hillary Clinton.

He won because of a convoluted, undemocratic electoral college system created by the Constitution’s framers to appease some lightly populated slave states.

OK, enough of the negative. There’s something genuinely positive here that illustrates America’s greatness with or without Trump. And it’s worth celebrating.

It’s simply that American democracy performed, although awkwardly, as the founders basically envisioned: Common folk could stand up against the establishment elite and boot them out the door. Of course, the founders reserved that right basically only for white men — no women, slaves or Native Americans — so we’ve come a long way.

Rebelling against the ruling class — peasants with pitchforks overrunning the castle — is part of the American DNA.

And these days, rebels benefit from technology. They can easily communicate with each other through social media while being rallied by Trump’s tweets.

In this case, Trump’s peasants were largely the white working stiffs without college degrees, the very voters who used to be the heart of the Democratic Party. FDR’s party. Harry Truman’s. Even, to a lesser degree, Bill Clinton’s.

But they started drifting to the GOP in the 1960s and ’70s during the civil rights movement and Vietnam War protests. They became Reagan Democrats in 1980.

For a long time, Democratic politicians have taken these folks for granted. They’ve been ignored and even disrespected.

“That has brought us to a pretty sorry place — not only the election of Trump, but the fact we’ve had a sharp veer to the right for many decades,” says Joan Williams, a UC Hastings law professor and longtime feminist activist who has written extensively about the working class.

So in 2016, this middle-class core — particularly workers in the swing Rust Belt states — installed a billionaire businessman in the Oval Office. They rallied behind him, ill manners and all, because he could speak to them and did. And they demanded change. No more Clintons or Bushes.

“I am your voice,” Trump told them.

“We’re voting with our middle finger,” a Trump follower said in Greenville, S.C., pointing to the establishment.

And Hillary Clinton?

“You could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables,’” she said. That was in September, and the Democratic nominee immediately knew she had stepped in it, as she’d stepped in so many things over the years.

Let’s be honest: Clinton was a horrible, flawed candidate. The Democratic elite deserved what it got in November by forcing this uninspiring retread on voters and ignoring other intriguing possibilities: potential nominees such as U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, or popular Vice President Joe Biden.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

We get our news and opinion from clowns. Real life clowns.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-skelton-donald-trump-inauguration-20170119-story.html

Trump's inauguration is a reminder that rebelling against the ruling class is in America's DNA

Millions of Californians will click on their TVs Friday and groan. They’ll wince as the unthinkable becomes a reality. Can you say President Trump? It’s painful.

Yes, he’s a terrible choice for all the reasons that need no listing here. He’s not California’s choice, but he is most states’.

And, yes, although it sticks in Donald Trump’s craw — to borrow an idiom commonly used by my late working-class parents — he won despite having received roughly 2.9 million fewer votes nationally than Hillary Clinton.

He won because of a convoluted, undemocratic electoral college system created by the Constitution’s framers to appease some lightly populated slave states.

OK, enough of the negative. There’s something genuinely positive here that illustrates America’s greatness with or without Trump. And it’s worth celebrating.

It’s simply that American democracy performed, although awkwardly, as the founders basically envisioned: Common folk could stand up against the establishment elite and boot them out the door. Of course, the founders reserved that right basically only for white men — no women, slaves or Native Americans — so we’ve come a long way.

Rebelling against the ruling class — peasants with pitchforks overrunning the castle — is part of the American DNA.

And these days, rebels benefit from technology. They can easily communicate with each other through social media while being rallied by Trump’s tweets.

In this case, Trump’s peasants were largely the white working stiffs without college degrees, the very voters who used to be the heart of the Democratic Party. FDR’s party. Harry Truman’s. Even, to a lesser degree, Bill Clinton’s.

But they started drifting to the GOP in the 1960s and ’70s during the civil rights movement and Vietnam War protests. They became Reagan Democrats in 1980.

For a long time, Democratic politicians have taken these folks for granted. They’ve been ignored and even disrespected.

“That has brought us to a pretty sorry place — not only the election of Trump, but the fact we’ve had a sharp veer to the right for many decades,” says Joan Williams, a UC Hastings law professor and longtime feminist activist who has written extensively about the working class.

So in 2016, this middle-class core — particularly workers in the swing Rust Belt states — installed a billionaire businessman in the Oval Office. They rallied behind him, ill manners and all, because he could speak to them and did. And they demanded change. No more Clintons or Bushes.

“I am your voice,” Trump told them.

“We’re voting with our middle finger,” a Trump follower said in Greenville, S.C., pointing to the establishment.

And Hillary Clinton?

“You could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the ‘basket of deplorables,’” she said. That was in September, and the Democratic nominee immediately knew she had stepped in it, as she’d stepped in so many things over the years.

Let’s be honest: Clinton was a horrible, flawed candidate. The Democratic elite deserved what it got in November by forcing this uninspiring retread on voters and ignoring other intriguing possibilities: potential nominees such as U.S. Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, or popular Vice President Joe Biden.

I read the whole opinion piece. Sounds spot on.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

Jeremy Wilcox changed my mind.

Actually, no he didn't. Who gives a fuck what he thinks?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

Yes it will.

Hahahaha.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Jeremy Wilcox changed my mind.

Actually, no he didn't. Who gives a fuck what he thinks?

Ooh, quite the potty-mouth now, Denny! I blame the new President's bad example.

 

[Denny Crane]

Ooh, quite the potty-mouth now, Denny! I blame the new President's bad example.

Hahahahaha.

Not with you... you know.

 

[crandc]

Trump has shown himself a poor leader, regardless of what one thinks of his politics (which are pretty amorphous; he got support of the Koch wing by promising to end labor and environmental regulations, shred social services and cut taxes on the rich; the conservative evangelicals proclaimed him sent by god although he's the living embodiment of the seven deadly sins due to his promise to appoint Supreme Court justices who will outlaw abortion and overturn marriage equality, the two foundations of Christianity that Jesus forgot to mention).

A good leader credits the team for success and takes responsibility for setbacks. Trump credits himself for everything positive even when he had no hand in it. When several corporations announced hiring plans Trump took credit. NBC had the gall to say they already had these business plans regardless of election and Trump had a Twitter tantrum "fake news! It's because of me! Me! Me!" But celebs not playing his inauguration, many of whom have performed for other Republicans even if they personally lean liberal, is never because he has repelled people with his racism, misogyny, bullying or general vulgarity, it's McCarthyism, a plot. A good leader knows he/she does not know everything. Trump said he knows more about defeating ISIS than the generals. He knows more about everything than everyone. A good leader admits mistakes and changes his/her mind when needed. Trump never makes mistakes. His six bankruptcies were not failures, they were shining successes.

A good leader is prepared, as much as possible. We just learned that the outgoing transition team prepared more than 200 national security briefings that apparently were not read. Yesterday afternoon a number of staffers in key national security and other posts were frantically asked to stay on because Trump has not selected anyone to replace them. Key countries like Germany and Great Britain have no ambassadors. The State and Defense departments and Nationals Security Agency have no staff. Too busy slamming Saturday Night Live and Meryl Streep. Many already have other jobs. One of these is the person who had been coordinating all the efforts to fight ISIS. Trump is asking him to stay. But he had a plan to defeat ISIS in two weeks! Why does he need this guy? And why would he want such a holdover from the Obama administration when he told Hugh Hewitt Obama was the "founder of ISIS" and "their MVP"? Hewitt asked if he meant founder in a metaphorical sense, that he thought the Obama policies led to ISIS but Trump said, no, literally. (Since he reportedly has never read a book in his adult life, when you have the very best brain I guess you don't need other people's thoughts, he may not know the difference between literal and metaphorical.)

Does anyone seriously think Trump would ever say he was wrong to call Obama the founder of ISIS and admit he has no idea how to fight them so needs Obama's guy in charge?

 

[Rastapopoulos]

 

[Denny Crane]

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Re: all of @crandc's points: his total ineptitude and inability to see it or admit it is part of what makes him so dangerous. It makes him very susceptible to manipulation. That means that it is incredibly important who he is surrounded by. I am slightly reassured by Mattis - he could be a lot worse, and he has a reputation for liking NATO and not liking Russia. Also Generals are often fans of peace, having seen war. On the other hand, Flynn sounds batshit insane, and Breitbart Bannon is a full-blown fascist. One thing's for sure: this is going to be as aggravating for the Republican establishment as it is for us, and that might open the door to impeachment.

 

[Denny Crane]

Tough shit. He's president now.

You can waste your time crying about it, but it's not going to change reality.

 

[blue32]

BOOOOOM!

 

[Denny Crane]

Welcome to hope and change. The change begins, for the better.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN1532T3?il=0

Executive actions ready to go as Trump prepares to take office

 

[Denny Crane]

And here's your new Secretary of Energy.

Boom!

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Welcome to hope and change. The change begins, for the better.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-idUSKBN1532T3?il=0

Executive actions ready to go as Trump prepares to take office

"Hope and Change" is the banner every frickin' president elect has flown since 1960. And look at where that has got us.....still hoping for change. I'm ready to give the guy a chance but I suspect his brand of change will be about as effective as that of his predecessors......

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Denny: serious question. How long are you going to keep this up? You realize that it just shows you've got nothing? You are a child who can't respond to criticism so just goes "wah wah" in the hope that there are enough idiots around who are also confused by criticism. I mean, if this is literally ALL YOU'VE GOT, it just shows that there really are no justifications for anything that is being criticized. You're just a stooge. And you're not even getting paid for it, unlike the actors he paid when he announced his run: