How are you feeling about President Trump?

[Denny Crane]

More winning.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/foxconn-...isplay-plant-u-exceed-120029682--finance.html

TAIPEI (Reuters) - Foxconn, the world's largest contract electronics maker, is considering setting up a display-making plant in the United States in an investment that would exceed $7 billion, company chairman and chief executive Terry Gou said on Sunday.

The plans come after U.S. President Donald Trump pledged to put "America First" in his inauguration speech on Friday, prompting Gou to warn about the rise of protectionism and a trend for politics to underpin economic development.
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Thanks Trump!

Manufacturing jobs, construction, R&D, engineering, etc. a factory.

Pooh pooh that.

What do you want for his first day on the job?

 

[Spud147]

Manufacturing jobs, construction, R&D, engineering, etc. a factory.

Pooh pooh that.

What do you want for his first day on the job?

But... see... Mr. Gou didn't commit to anything, he just promised to think about it. Those jobs are as real as the MLK Jr. bust moving scandal addressed in the first press conference.

But, by all means, go ahead and believe it was the greatest first day on the job... PERIOD

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

There needs to be all sorts of jobs.

These at Ralph's pay $16/hr in California. To bag groceries or cashier. That is a living wage. Maybe not after paying ObamaCare premiums, though.

You're preaching to the choir in some ways. But if you think a steel worker, or auto worker is beating down doors for those jobs, you need to get out more....or at least broaden your reading list. They're angry (at the world in general) because the jobs they've always known and expected to retire from are gone, stolen by corporate and governmental greed and incompetence. They honestly believe that all Trump has to do is wave his magic wand and those same (or similar) jobs are just going to reappear out of nowhere and it's all unicorns and rainbows again. And when that doesn't happen (even giving Trump the benefit of the doubt as far as good intentions might go), the backlash could get very ugly....these folks have had their hopes and expectations raised. And they don't want to be disappointed (again).

 

[blue32]

They're union jobs. There's a Ralph's nearby and i know plenty of people who work there.

If anything, they are strict about not allowing overtime.

You'd prefer no jobs?

No he's probably one of those guys that think dipshits at mcdonalds need to get paid 15 bucks an hour because it's a career

 

[blue32]

You're preaching to the choir in some ways. But if you think a steel worker, or auto worker is beating down doors for those jobs, you need to get out more....or at least broaden your reading list. They're angry (at the world in general) because the jobs they've always known and expected to retire from are gone, stolen by corporate and governmental greed and incompetence. They honestly believe that all Trump has to do is wave his magic wand and those same (or similar) jobs are just going to reappear out of nowhere and it's all unicorns and rainbows again. And when that doesn't happen (even giving Trump the benefit of the doubt as far as good intentions might go), the backlash could get very ugly....these folks have had their hopes and expectations raised. And they don't want to be disappointed (again).

It's about getting the people with NO job a job to start somewhere. Shit man... think!

 

[Denny Crane]

But... see... Mr. Gou didn't commit to anything, he just promised to think about it. Those jobs are as real as the MLK Jr. bust moving scandal addressed in the first press conference.

But, by all means, go ahead and believe it was the greatest first day on the job... PERIOD

They weren't considering it at all until Trump.

It's kind of business 101 that not all deals happen. If you rely on only one, it's massive risk and doom is likely.

Enough of these kinds of deals are certain to happen.

Ford cancels plans for Mexico plant, to open it or invest in existin plant in Michigan instead. Manufacturing jobs for auto workers.
http://fortune.com/2017/01/03/tech-ford-trump-jobs/

IPhone manufacturer to look at making phones in the US at Apple's request.
http://www.northcrane.com/2016/11/1...-in-talks-of-moving-manufacturing-to-the-usa/
(edit: this was in November, the article you replied to is yesterday with $ amounts... the plans are moving along)

Head of alliance of American manufacturers says the prospects for high quality manufacturing jobs is boosted by Trump's trade policies
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/23/jobs...be-high-skilled-manufacturing-chief-says.html

Automakers investing $billions in plants and jobs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-autos-idUSKBN1572JI

He promised 25M jobs, or about 2.5M/year. Here's how he's doing as of day 1.

None of those bagging groceries or waiting tables...

 

[Denny Crane]

You're preaching to the choir in some ways. But if you think a steel worker, or auto worker is beating down doors for those jobs, you need to get out more....or at least broaden your reading list. They're angry (at the world in general) because the jobs they've always known and expected to retire from are gone, stolen by corporate and governmental greed and incompetence. They honestly believe that all Trump has to do is wave his magic wand and those same (or similar) jobs are just going to reappear out of nowhere and it's all unicorns and rainbows again. And when that doesn't happen (even giving Trump the benefit of the doubt as far as good intentions might go), the backlash could get very ugly....these folks have had their hopes and expectations raised. And they don't want to be disappointed (again).

At least Hillary won't be ending the coal miners' jobs.

Trump isn't waving any magic wand, he's using a carrot and stick. Do right, you get the carrot. Do wrong, you get the stick.

http://www.post-gazette.com/busines...ident-elect-Donald-Trump/stories/201612080174

U.S. Steel said Thursday the 10,000 laid off steelworkers that president and CEO Mario Longhi said could be called back to work because of optimism created by Donald Trump’s election referred to an industrywide total and not to U.S. Steel.

The Pittsburgh company said federal jobs numbers indicate more than 16,000 steel industry workers have been laid off since January 2015 because of unfairly traded imports.

In an appearance on CNBC Wednesday, Mr. Longhi said Mr. Trump’s victory created “an environment of positive optimism.” Many business have hailed Mr. Trump’s win and Cabinet selections, saying the promise of lower taxes and less regulation will create jobs.

Mr. Longhi told the network the optimism could lead to the recall of close to 10,000 workers in the industry.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-alibaba-idUSKBN14T1ZA

Alibaba's Ma meets Trump, promises to bring one million jobs to U.S.

 

[Denny Crane]

http://www.wsj.com/articles/amazon-to-create-more-than-100-000-full-time-jobs-in-u-s-1484233541

Amazon Touts Job-Creation Plans, Patching Up Rift With Trump
The additional jobs would swell Amazon’s U.S. workforce, which stood at 180,000 last year

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

It's about getting the people with NO job a job to start somewhere. Shit man... think!

I'll start thinking when you start reading. Too many of these jobless folks don't want "service" jobs. And they freaking admit it!! They can make more on the dole....or even making and/or selling meth. When I was jobless, with a wife to support, I did whatever it took (legally) to put food on the table and pay the bills. I never took a penny from the government (including unemployment that I had earned. Your choice as to whether that was pride or stupidity). But too many of these people believe from the bottom of their hearts that the government and corporate America owe them better than they are getting......if for no other reason than they are entitled as white Americans. And if you think that is a left wing media narrative then you need to broaden your horizons.

And no, I don't think hamburger flippers should be making $15 an hour. If more and better jobs existed, along with an actual functioning educational system, that discussion wouldn't even exist....

 

[blue32]

I'll start thinking when you start reading. Too many of these jobless folks don't want "service" jobs. And they freaking admit it!! They can make more on the dole....or even making and/or selling meth. When I was jobless, with a wife to support, I did whatever it took (legally) to put food on the table and pay the bills. I never took a penny from the government (including unemployment that I had earned. Your choice as to whether that was pride or stupidity). But too many of these people believe from the bottom of their hearts that the government and corporate America owe them better than they are getting......if for no other reason than they are entitled as white Americans. And if you think that is a left wing media narrative then you need to broaden your horizons.

And no, I don't think hamburger flippers should be making $15 an hour. If more and better jobs existed, along with an actual functioning educational system, that discussion wouldn't even exist....

Well shit I agree with you finally on something. Which is the stuff about the entitled. But that doesn't mean none of these jobs that he's bringing don't help at all. You can't help the entitled, or the seedy fucks who want to crime it up to make money, that starts back in education. But ultimately there are more than just service jobs coming back to the USA. I think any job is better than nothing and certainly better than shipping jobs out to India or Mexico or whatever.

 

[barfo]

I remember when conservatives used to insist that government doesn't create jobs. Now they think that all private sector jobs are created by the President.

barfo

 

[Denny Crane]

I remember when conservatives used to insist that government doesn't create jobs. Now they think that private sector jobs are created by the President.

barfo

This isn't government creating jobs. Not $.01 is being spent to do any of this, aside from the man's time and travel.

 

[blue32]

I remember when conservatives used to insist that government doesn't create jobs. Now they think that all private sector jobs are created by the President.

barfo

Well Obama fucked the pooch on that Barfo™; He helped create quite a bit of business unfriendly legislation, pushing jobs out of this country. So while conservatives still can insist that Government doesn't create jobs itself, they still understand that Government can influence the land to be either job friendly or unfriendly w/the laws it passes. At least that's how I see it.

 

[Spud147]

They weren't considering it at all until Trump.

It's kind of business 101 that not all deals happen. If you rely on only one, it's massive risk and doom is likely.

Enough of these kinds of deals are certain to happen.

Ford cancels plans for Mexico plant, to open it or invest in existin plant in Michigan instead. Manufacturing jobs for auto workers.
http://fortune.com/2017/01/03/tech-ford-trump-jobs/

IPhone manufacturer to look at making phones in the US at Apple's request.
http://www.northcrane.com/2016/11/1...-in-talks-of-moving-manufacturing-to-the-usa/
(edit: this was in November, the article you replied to is yesterday with $ amounts... the plans are moving along)

Head of alliance of American manufacturers says the prospects for high quality manufacturing jobs is boosted by Trump's trade policies
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/01/23/jobs...be-high-skilled-manufacturing-chief-says.html

Automakers investing $billions in plants and jobs
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-autos-idUSKBN1572JI

He promised 25M jobs, or about 2.5M/year. Here's how he's doing as of day 1.

None of those bagging groceries or waiting tables...

Yeah, that Alibaba one pledging to help 1,000,000 small businesses each hire one employee sounds legit. And I'm sure those are skilled high paying jobs packing and shipping trinkets to China.

 

[barfo]

Well Obama fucked the pooch on that Barfo™; He helped create quite a bit of business unfriendly legislation, pushing jobs out of this country. So while conservatives still can insist that Government doesn't create jobs itself, they still understand that Government can influence the land to be either job friendly or unfriendly w/the laws it passes. At least that's how I see it.

Under Obama, we had the longest continuous run of job growth in the entire history of the USA.

So, how you see it is perhaps colored by your bias.

barfo

 

[blue32]

Under Obama, we had the longest continuous run of job growth in the entire history of the USA.

So, how you see it is perhaps colored by your bias.

barfo

Labor force participation is a big thing.

"While 14.4 million jobs were created from February 2010 to March 2016, the number of people who dropped out of the labor force -- either because they retired or just quit looking for work -- shot up an astonishing 10 million"

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah, that Alibaba one pledging to help 1,000,000 small businesses each hire one employee sounds legit. And I'm sure those are skilled high paying jobs packing and shipping trinkets to China.

I'm sure you may not know for sure.

 

[Denny Crane]

Yeah, that Alibaba one pledging to help 1,000,000 small businesses each hire one employee sounds legit. And I'm sure those are skilled high paying jobs packing and shipping trinkets to China.

BTW, my kid sells stuff at trade shows and the like. If she could sell to the Chinese market, it would be pretty sweet.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

At least Hillary won't be ending the coal miners' jobs.

No, coal becoming obsolete will do that. Unless you really want the Government propping up obsolete industries?

 

[Denny Crane]

No, coal becoming obsolete will do that. Unless you really want the Government propping up obsolete industries?

I don't want the government involved at all.

Clinton went to WVa and promised to kill all the coal companies and the workers' jobs. That's brilliant campaigning.

Edit: Clinton said: “We’re going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/...rack-up-west-virginia-win-over-clinton-222952

 

[riverman]

Yeah, that Alibaba one pledging to help 1,000,000 small businesses each hire one employee sounds legit. And I'm sure those are skilled high paying jobs packing and shipping trinkets to China.

The CEO of Alibaba is all over the Asian media talking about how we blew it ignoring infrastructure and pouring our surplus into military investments over the last several decades...also eluded to the modernization of the new manufacturing sector towards robotics and not manual labor. We should be creating jobs developing robotics for manufacturing like most of the world has been....somethings about the rust belt should probably die out...how about a new energy grid and high speed rail system?

 

[riverman]

To give myself some balance I'll say this.....11 Taiwanese diplomats attended the inauguration......I celebrate that!

 

[Spud147]

BTW, my kid sells stuff at trade shows and the like. If she could sell to the Chinese market, it would be pretty sweet.

Well the great thing is Alibaba is apparently known as a place to sell knock offs because they don't monitor the goods too closely. So we will be able to buy fake stuff made in China and hire new employees to sell it back to them. They call that synergy in business school.

 

[Denny Crane]

And this is why I don't like republicans.

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/315537-trump-gop-set-to-battle-on-spending-cuts

 

[Denny Crane]

Well the great thing is Alibaba is apparently known as a place to sell knock offs because they don't monitor the goods too closely. So we will be able to buy fake stuff made in China and hire new employees to sell it back to them. They call that synergy in business school.

Awesome.

Beats not selling anything to the chinese market and not having the income from it.

 

[EL PRESIDENTE]

Well the great thing is Alibaba is apparently known as a place to sell knock offs because they don't monitor the goods too closely. So we will be able to buy fake stuff made in China and hire new employees to sell it back to them. They call that synergy in business school.

Amazon too. Try buying some Under Armour shit....bootleg

 

[MarAzul]

Labor force participation is a big thing.

"While 14.4 million jobs were created from February 2010 to March 2016, the number of people who dropped out of the labor force -- either because they retired or just quit looking for work -- shot up an astonishing 10 million"

My goodness, these charts show abismal management. Why would man, heralded as brillant, manage the economy to determent of most of the people?

 

[Denny Crane]

2014 Quinnipeac Poll

https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2056

American voters say 54 - 44 percent that the Obama Administration is not competent running the government. The president is paying attention to what his administration is doing, 47 percent say, while 48 percent say he does not pay enough attention.
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Not competent.

 

[riverman]

If things go as I think, I may once again be able to visit my friends overseas and take a couple American strats with me to pay for the trip...used to work like a charm