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Shaboid said:
That mostly covers it, although, a fielders choice does still count as an at-bat. IBB, BB, HBP, and sacrifices do not count as at bats or hits.
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Now can you explain the infield fly rule? :)
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Also:
  • reaching base after being hit by a pitch--not a hit
  • reaching base on a fielding error--not a hit
  • reaching base because they threw out a different runner ("fielder's choice")--not a hit
  • getting thrown out trying to stretch a single into a double--is a hit.
Did I miss anything?
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Oddly enough,. A base on balls is not considered an at bat. Even if you have a 12 pitch at bat lol.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Now can you explain the infield fly rule? :)
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Runners at 1st and 2nd (or bases loaded) and less than 2 outs. A fly ball in the infield OR close to where a fielder can REASONABLY catch the ball, umpires will hold one finger in the air and yell " INFIELD FLY, BATTER IS OUT, RUNNERS RUN AT THEIR OWN RISK".

I say "close to" cause there was a play in Atlanta in the playoffs where they called an infield fly when the shortstop was still running to make the play. I still don't think it was an infield fly, this had to be 2010-2011.
 
Strenuus said:
Runners at 1st and 2nd (or bases loaded) and less than 2 outs. A fly ball in the infield OR close to where a fielder can REASONABLY catch the ball, umpires will hold one finger in the air and yell " INFIELD FLY, BATTER IS OUT, RUNNERS RUN AT THEIR OWN RISK".

I say "close to" cause there was a play in Atlanta in the playoffs where they called an infield fly when the shortstop was still running to make the play. I still don't think it was an infield fly, this had to be 2010-2011.
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Took a History of Baseball class in college and the professor had a couple of MLB umps come in and ask us trick questions like, what is the definition of a check swing? In the event of a tie on a force out, does the base go to the runner or is he out? Can an infield fly rule be called on a ball to the warning track?
 
bigbailes said:
Took a History of Baseball class in college and the professor had a couple of MLB umps come in and ask us trick questions like, what is the definition of a check swing? In the event of a tie on a force out, does the base go to the runner or is he out? Can an infield fly rule be called on a ball to the warning track?
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The warning track is also designated for all foul ground as well, but that doesn't matter, infield fly is only called if it's fair and in the infield within relative catch ability.

I don't know the answer 100% but I feel it is always the umpires call that dictates, whether it's a tie or not.

The definition of a check swing still feels subjective but a lot of people say it's the break on the wrists. That seems to be the going theory, at least. "Theory" lol
 
PLEASE PUT THIS SHIT ON THE OT PAGE. BASEBALL IS NOT A SPORT.
 
Strenuus said:
The warning track is also designated for all foul ground as well, but that doesn't matter, infield fly is only called if it's fair and in the infield within relative catch ability.
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As a Braves fan, I wish all of the umps knew how INFIELD fly rules worked.
 
Strenuus said:
The warning track is also designated for all foul ground as well, but that doesn't matter, infield fly is only called if it's fair and in the infield within relative catch ability.

I don't know the answer 100% but I feel it is always the umpires call that dictates, whether it's a tie or not.

The definition of a check swing still feels subjective but a lot of people say it's the break on the wrists. That seems to be the going theory, at least. "Theory" lol
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According to these guys ... if the ball is hit high enough and it doesn't take extraordinary effort, than a fly ball to the track could be called on the infield fly rule.

There is no such thing as a 'check' swing, either the batter swung or they didn't ... the 'check' swing is supposedly something a broadcaster came up with.

In that same vein, there is no such thing as a tie on a force out, either the ball got there or the runner did ... they were extremely literal in their rules but I guess that's what makes a good umpire/official.
 
bigbailes said:
According to these guys ... if the ball is hit high enough and it doesn't take extraordinary effort, than a fly ball to the track could be called on the infield fly rule.

There is no such thing as a 'check' swing, either the batter swung or they didn't ... the 'check' swing is supposedly something a broadcaster came up with.

In that same vein, there is no such thing as a tie on a force out, either the ball got there or the runner did ... they were extremely literal in their rules but I guess that's what makes a good umpire/official.
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So for #3 I was correct lol.

#1 doesn't make sense just logically. I get if you wanna call the first half of the outfield the infield and say that with no extraordinary effort... Okay I can understand that, but then why isn't a sacrifice fly with the bases loaded called an infield fly if it's routine to the track? They may be correct by their definition, but it doesn't make it right by logic standards because that never has been called though it sounds like it should.

#2 is true. The basis of it is subjective, which is what I was answering. But the literal definition is what it goes by, just no one says it lol
 
Mitch to the Giants on a 3 yr deal

I’m happy with Teoscar but him and wong aren’t gonna be enough to help the dreadful offense
 
ehizzy3 said:
Mitch to the Giants on a 3 yr deal

I’m happy with Teoscar but him and wong aren’t gonna be enough to help the dreadful offense
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Haniger can never stay healthy. Not a huge loss
 
ehizzy3 said:
Mitch to the Giants on a 3 yr deal

I’m happy with Teoscar but him and wong aren’t gonna be enough to help the dreadful offense
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I imagine its an incentive laden deal.

He could produce when healthy. He just never was. Dunno what the Mariners are doing this off-season but whatever it is, it doesn't seem nearly enough.

Hopefully we get that guy from Japan. We need a really good contact hitter.
 
Feeling like Teoscar is the big splash of the Mariners off season, pretty disappointing if that's the case.
 
Shaboid said:
Opening day is coming! I'm going to the Saturday game, I'll post a pic of my Julio bobblehead once I acquire it. Go M's!!!
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nice, that’ll be awesome!

I’m super excited for this season! The thing I’m looking forward to the most is watching Kirby continue to develop and dominate.
 
ehizzy3 said:
nice, that’ll be awesome!

I’m super excited for this season! The thing I’m looking forward to the most is watching Kirby continue to develop and dominate.
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Hoping the pitching staff can remain near the top, for sure. The new additions better bring some offense!
 
ehizzy3 said:
nice, that’ll be awesome!

I’m super excited for this season! The thing I’m looking forward to the most is watching Kirby continue to develop and dominate.
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But to be fair, there’s a lot of things to look forward to this season! The rotation is pretty nasty, and we kept Flexen for long pen and insurance for any injury. I know I just said I’m looking most forward to Kirby but Castillo starts are also must watch. Logan ain’t no slouch either. Again super excited for the rotation.

the Bullpen also has some nasty arms. Brash and Munoz are both fun as hell to watch. Sewald and Diego are both super solid. I wish we had one more dominant arm though tbh

The lineup should be better this year. Hopefully teoscar continues to hit and doesn’t have a mariners jinx lol. Julio might take that next step up to MVP level, if he does we will contend for a title. Cal should continue to develop too. We really have a great generation of players with Julio, Kirby, Logan and Cal. Kelenic has had a great spring and I’m not getting my hopes up, but if he could figure it out at the plate it would be a huge boost. Hopefully Geno hits close to the same amount of home runs as last year.

Our defense should be great too. Geno, JP (love him, but we do need an upgrade soon), Wong, and France are all pretty damn good with the glove. Defense in the outfield should be pretty good too.

We could take a big step up this year if everything goes right. Big if though, I hate to get my hopes up.
 
Shaboid said:
Hoping the pitching staff can remain near the top, for sure. The new additions better bring some offense!
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I don’t doubt that our pitching staff will remain near the top. A lot of nasty and young arms. Our developmental staff produces some bullpen guys out of nowhere as well too. Just no Robbie ray out of the bullpen please
 
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If Julio continues to grow and I can't see why not, with good OBP guys around him and teo/kel getting rbis, with cals emergence (I mean dude was hitting under .100 for a solid month, gets sent down and comes back and rakes. It's astounding)... Our hitting MAY just be enough. We sure as hell have the pitching (except I hate Robbie ray. Makes me so nervous).

But a lineup of something to the tune of:

Julio
France
Kel
Teo
Cal
Eug
Wong

As our top 7 is pretty damn good. Above average, not a top 5 by any means. But with that and our pitching, that's really damn exciting.

Id probably put eug at 5 and cal 6 but really it doesn't matter. Or hell, eug 4th and teo 5th I just never liked high strikeout guys hitting clean up even if that's the norm lol
 
Furthermore, kel is raking and I hope to God it translates because that changes the entire game. If we have a kel/eug/teo with Julio and France before them and we get THIS kel... My baseball pants are tight.

But honestly I think starting Kel at 7 is best for him to begin the season.
 
Strenuus said:
If Julio continues to grow and I can't see why not, with good OBP guys around him and teo/kel getting rbis, with cals emergence (I mean dude was hitting under .100 for a solid month, gets sent down and comes back and rakes. It's astounding)... Our hitting MAY just be enough. We sure as hell have the pitching (except I hate Robbie ray. Makes me so nervous).

But a lineup of something to the tune of:

Julio
France
Kel
Teo
Cal
Eug
Wong

As our top 7 is pretty damn good. Above average, not a top 5 by any means. But with that and our pitching, that's really damn exciting.

Id probably put eug at 5 and cal 6 but really it doesn't matter. Or hell, eug 4th and teo 5th I just never liked high strikeout guys hitting clean up even if that's the norm lol
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Just keep those expectations low...
 
Baseball, so boring the league tried to change the rules to get the game over faster!!!??? ZZZZzzzz
 
So glad that Gilbert is pitching on Saturday and not Ray. Haven't seen him in a game yet.
 
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