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ehizzy3 said:
his best friend Noelvi Marte was signed shortly after him and is also a highly touted prospect. He is in high A right now but could be in the big leagues next year. Shortstop but projects better at 3rd in the majors.

the question is do you trade him and others for Juan Soto? I think you have to do it unless Julio gets really upset for trading his best friend.

Soto is almost a a lock to be a hall of famer as long as he is healthy. Pairing him with Julio would be so exciting.
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Mariners have a Derby every day

Mariners get: OF Juan Soto

Nationals get: RHP George Kirby, OF Jarred Kelenic, SS Noelvi Marte (MLB No. 19 prospect), C Harry Ford (MLB No. 68 prospect), RHP Emerson Hancock (SEA No. 5 prospect), LHP Juan Pinto (SEA No. 26 prospect)

Giving up a big league quality starter, two Top 100 Prospects, a former Top 10 prospect and two promising arms may seem like a lot, but the Mariners shouldn’t think twice if they get the opportunity to pair two young superstars in Soto and Julio Rodríguez, who gave us a glimpse at the damage they could do during the 2022 T-Mobile Home Run Derby finals.

J-Rod hasn’t even played a full season yet, but he already looks like the guy in Seattle. The Mariners are in a position to win with a good mix of young talent and established veterans. They could sacrifice a bit of that young talent to get, well, another young talent in Soto. With J-Rod and Soto roaming the outfield at T-Mobile Park, it would immediately allow them to challenge the top teams in the AL for years to come.

Losing Kirby and Marte, who would be the two centerpieces in the deal, will hurt, but Seattle has a deep enough farm system to recover. Kirby impressed early in the season, posting a solid 3.78 ERA and an 8.7 K/9 in his first taste of the bigs, but they would be able to keep Logan Gilbert and Matt Brash (MLB No. 91 prospect) if they include him and Hancock. Marte is one of the best shortstop prospects in the game at 20 years old, but Edwin Arroyo (MLB No. 95 prospect) is two years younger and crushing in his second pro season.

This deal really hangs on what the Nationals think of Kelenic. The 23-year-old has struggled across 123 MLB games, hitting .173 with a .594 OPS, but just over a year ago, he was one of the premier prospects in all of baseball, ending 2020 as MLB Pipeline's No. 9 overall prospect -- six spots higher than Rodríguez. Had the news of Soto’s negotiations falling through dropped in 2021, he might have been untouchable in a deal. It all depends on what side of Kelenic the Nationals see, the phenom who impressed at every stop in the Minors and just needs a fresh start, or the guy who hasn’t panned out in MLB in nearly a full season’s worth of games.

-- Nick Aguilera
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They would most likely have to deal Marte if they want Soto. Idk, this is the first time in a while we have this type of upward trajectory. I say you let it ride on your squad. Damn that would be a fun line up, though.
 
Cugel said:
They have a brutal schedule coming up. Should say a lot about the team how they play Houston and NYY.
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If they can go .500 through the next 12-16 games the schedule REALLY favors us. It's no doubt the most crucial part of the season. Pitching is going to have to stay as lights out as it's been the last 25 games.
 
ehizzy3 said:
giving up Marte and Kirby is too much. Although it’s so damn intriguing I’d still probably do it.

Hancock has to stay if Kirby is going tho
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I do not know how to feel about Kirby. Yes, his debut is the best in mariners history for a debut, but his stuff has been mediocre for the most part since. Gonna trust that he's gonna be debut kirby more often than not (in terms of stuff, not that result cause he was filthy)
 
Strenuus said:
If they can go .500 through the next 12-16 games the schedule REALLY favors us. It's no doubt the most crucial part of the season. Pitching is going to have to stay as lights out as it's been the last 25 games.
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If they’re serious about winning they need to be active at the trade deadline. Possibly another starting pitcher and a bat. I believe they’re the only team in the league with no injuries to their starting pitchers. That could change quick.
 
Hard to believe Jack Kelenic was a higher rated prospect than J Rod just last year.

Also, hard to believe that Julio made more money for being 2nd place in the HR derby than he will for his yearly salary this year.
 
MickZagger said:
Hard to believe Jack Kelenic was a higher rated prospect than J Rod just last year.

Also, hard to believe that Julio made more money for being 2nd place in the HR derby than he will for his yearly salary this year.
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Jack Kelenic is probably better than Jarred Kelenic anyway ;)
 
Soto is 23 and I believe is still under team control for 2.5 more years. He and Julio would rule the league for over a decade. You do whatever it takes to get him (except Julio) if you have a chance. The above trade package is steep but I don't think it hurts so much that they couldn't recover.
 
hoopsjock said:
Soto is 23 and I believe is still under team control for 2.5 more years. He and Julio would rule the league for over a decade. You do whatever it takes to get him (except Julio) if you have a chance. The above trade package is steep but I don't think it hurts so much that they couldn't recover.
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Dipoto stockpiled the farm system in a couple years he could do it again turning low rated prospects like Ty Franc into all stars. Matt Brash was a player to be named later and they are turning him into a good bullpen guy

I wanted to go to the game tonight on a whim. It’s sold out but still easy to get a ticket on seat geek.

it’s crazy in the win streak we only gained like 3 games on the *stros
 
hoopsjock said:
Soto is 23 and I believe is still under team control for 2.5 more years. He and Julio would rule the league for over a decade. You do whatever it takes to get him (except Julio) if you have a chance. The above trade package is steep but I don't think it hurts so much that they couldn't recover.
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I'd probably do it too, I just have terrible flashbacks to Cano. How did that work out for the M's? Idfk, I guess they've recovered, but it's taken a while. Meanwhile, haven't made the playoffs in HOW LONG???
 
Shaboid said:


I'd probably do it too, I just have terrible flashbacks to Cano. How did that work out for the M's? Idfk, I guess they've recovered, but it's taken a while. Meanwhile, haven't made the playoffs in HOW LONG???
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Cano was 31 when he was traded to Seattle. That's not comparable, IMO.
 
hoopsjock said:
Cano was 31 when he was traded to Seattle. That's not comparable, IMO.
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Meh, I guess that's fair. I just meant paying out the nose for the hottest player on the market at the time, wasn't talking the actual player. I have a lot of issues with Mariners management over the years, so I'm a bit pessimistic in general that they are going to make the right move. Every season is apples to apples for the past couple decades in that they didn't make the playoffs.

Enough doom and gloom! Just keep winning!
 
The mystery of Julio has me a little panicked as a life long mariners fan.

he was literally just catching the opening pitch from Mike Cameron or Brett Boone. All of a sudden he’s a scratch and no word or sighting of him

my first guess is covid but I figure he would have got his results sooner than game time. Idk weird stuff
 
ehizzy3 said:
The mystery of Julio has me a little panicked as a life long mariners fan.

he was literally just catching the opening pitch from Mike Cameron or Brett Boone. All of a sudden he’s a scratch and no word or sighting of him

my first guess is covid but I figure he would have got his results sooner than game time. Idk weird stuff
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That was a great catch by Peña. It’s not looking good for the win streak
 
I wonder if a sweep changes how the FO looks at Soto. Momentum is a real thing in baseball..can’t lose it now

the offense has been pathetic. Sure it’s Verlander but at least run the pitch count up on him. Their bullpen is stretched
 
ehizzy3 said:
I wonder if a sweep changes how the FO looks at Soto. Momentum is a real thing in baseball..can’t lose it now

the offense has been pathetic. Sure it’s Verlander but at least run the pitch count up on him. Their bullpen is stretched
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I've always hated our offense until Julio became Julio. Now I hate it again since Julio been out for 2 games.

When the only guy on offense you can trust is a 21 year old rookie....

And to a lesser extent France. That's it. It's a big yikes. And I've been done with Marco for awhile too.
 
Shaboid said:
Mannnnn, I just want a MFing playoff appearance.
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Bingo!

I’m a casual mariners fan so unless they’re impressing I’m not tuning in. I paid $99 bucks so I can watch all my St. Louis Cards games.

But I enjoy the camaraderie of living in the NW and enjoying them when they’re good.
 
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