Funny How can you make a deal without a common language?

[riverman]

The more we bring them here to avoid their civic responsibilities in their homeland, the shittier the world and our country becomes.

you sir are an embarrassment to democracy and freedom....who the fuck brought your people here and from where? you're no native.....you're a tourist selling property under the guise of patriotism

 

[riverman]

I think this last Maris post may end my tenure at S2....I can't fuckin' take anymore classless ranting

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I think this last Maris post may end my tenure at S2....I can't fuckin' take anymore classless ranting

Don't leave. I'm talking to Denny and the rest of the staff about some of the posts in this forum lately. This is not acceptable.

 

[dviss1]

Racism affects anyone willing to play the victim card, and there are several races with a greater victimization rate than your race, so get in line for your cup of sympathy.

So you finally admit when you bypass your white privilege and complain about racism toward white people that you're really just being a whiny bitch and playing the victim card...

Finally it comes out.

 

[dviss1]

True. We call them Trump voters.



People who believe all whites are racist are obviously ACTUAL racists themselves. No different than any other racists.



You think they are not ACTUAL RACISTS.

This is your problem.

The fact that you believe the words you say is your problem.

You sound like that asshat Alex Jones.

 

[dviss1]

I think this last Maris post may end my tenure at S2....I can't fuckin' take anymore classless ranting

Man... Put that MF on ignore. I just did. FUCK it.

 

[riverman]

Man... Put that MF on ignore. I just did. FUCK it.

I just took him off ignore yesterday......I think there's a limit to what I want around my life these days

 

[dviss1]

So guys, I'm not attending nor bringing my son to any meet and greets @MARIS61 attends. Also, being the "gun enthusiast" that he is, I literally don't feel safe enough to bring my kid around.

I truly believe the American Dream is more likely to be a reality if we continue to bring in people from all sorts of backgrounds who have persisted through all sorts of strife. It’s through struggle that hustle is spawned. It’s through poverty that ingenuity and upward aspirations are born. If we close off we become stagnant, wanting to save every morsel of what we have for ourselves instead of inventing new morsels for the future. Diversity of cultures, diversity of backgrounds and diversity of aspirations are what will drive the future and create the next America Dream.

That future... Is far too brown...

 

[dviss1]

you sir are an embarrassment to democracy and freedom....who the fuck brought your people here and from where? you're no native.....you're a tourist selling property under the guise of patriotism

 

[H.C.]

... What is going on in this thread.
Look @SlyPokerDog I know he's a troll account and the disclaimer he uses.
But there has to be a line right?

 

[Further]

There is a racist contingent on these boards thats just too sad, pigheaded and stupid to deal with.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

... What is going on in this thread.
Look @SlyPokerDog I know he's a troll account and the disclaimer he uses.
But there has to be a line right?

What that line is is being discussed by staff.

 

[Denny Crane]

Nate has been banned. We will tolerate open discussions about pretty much any topic, including race. You cannot have honest discussions about race without letting people express their views.

Nate went beyond any of this with one of the most hurtful and racist kinds of personal attacks. We have zero tolerance for anything like that.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Nate has been banned. We will tolerate open discussions about pretty much any topic, including race. You cannot have honest discussions about race without letting people express their views.

Nate went beyond any of this with one of the most hurtful and racist kinds of personal attacks. We have zero tolerance for anything like that.

I say with utter sincerity; Thank You!!! That guy should have been booted months ago. The forum just took a huge (YUGE!) step forward.

 

[MarAzul]

Seriously, why say shit like that?

You're insulting my father and my family. How dare you post such vile crap.

My father proudly served in this country's armed forces. Is as proud an American as you claim to be. You seem to go of your way to say the stupidest shit. I don't get it.

Why did you take offense, and I did not?

The reason I did not, is because I see no personal affront. So I would why you do?

My father came here just as yours. I don't get this?

 

[MarAzul]

Shitholes are shitholes and the smart folks from those lands leave for better shores.

And then begin to push for change in the new place, like from where they came. Or wish to continue with the same failed concepts that brought them down in the land, from where they came.

 

[MarAzul]

You're talking about people who turn their backs on their homelands because as a result of their own failed culture they have become unlivable shitholes.

They have no patriotism, no loyalty, sat by and watched their homeland spiral down the toilet, then deserted their countrymen and families to take a shortcut to the good life.

We do no good for our country or for the rest of the world by abetting their cowardice. Until people stand up for their own rights in their own country, fight hard to improve their own country, demand that their country improve, the world will remain mostly violent shitholes.

The more we bring them here to avoid their civic responsibilities in their homeland, the shittier the world and our country becomes.

This in not entirely wrong. The US can not be the destination for every one that feels oppressed.
We have no more land to exploit.
Most of you want less CO2 emissions. More people does not meet that wish and obviously takes us in the wrong direction.

 

[Further]

And then begin to push for change in the new place, like from where they came. Or wish to continue with the same failed concepts that brought them down in the land, from where they came.

Some push for good changes, some might not. Most want to make wherever they go a better place if for no other reason than to live better and have a good place for their families.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

And then begin to push for change in the new place, like from where they came. Or wish to continue with the same failed concepts that brought them down in the land, from where they came.

Must.......re.....frain.....from.......bashing........Californians.......who......move.....here..........God......it’s......killing....me....ban......me......before,........I.......bite.......my......tongue.....in.....two..........

 

[MarAzul]

Some push for good changes, some might not. Most want to make wherever they go a better place if for no other reason than to live better and have a good place for their families.

I am sure this is true. But a little more thought might be wise before you undo the new.

 

[MarAzul]

Must.......re.....frain.....from.......bashing........Californians.......who......move.....here..........God......it’s......killing....me....ban......me......before,........I.......bite.......my......tongue.....in.....two..........

Well, get ready. Quite a few more ready to leave Cal. But you might be saved, they want some place different, not the same.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Well, get ready. Quite a few more ready to leave Cal. But you might be saved, they want some place different, not the same.

When I came here from California, it was still a red state. Seems to me that the new crop of refuges flee from over taxation, crime, and a decaying quality of life. Then they get here and want to enact the same foolishness in social programs that turned Cali into a shit hole. No wonder why we have the existing administration in state office.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

When I came here from California, it was still a red state. Seems to me that the new crop of refuges flee from over taxation, crime, and a decaying quality of life. Then they get here and want to enact the same foolishness in social programs that turned Cali into a shit hole. No wonder why we have the existing administration in state office.

Being a native Oregonian, I don’t know that I blame Cali immigrants for our current liberal government. We pretty much have ourselves to blame for that. But my experience is that they move up here for what it is and, as soon as they get settled in all they do bitch about what it isn’t. They cry about the rain, property taxes, no self service gasoline, yada, yada, yada. Worse, they then turn around and tell you how much better it was in Cali. I miss the days when no one knew Oregon even existed, and if they did we were considered just a bunch of moss backed, flannel wearing lumberjacks. Sure made life (and fashion) easier..........

 

[MarAzul]

When I came here from California, it was still a red state. Seems to me that the new crop of refuges flee from over taxation, crime, and a decaying quality of life. Then they get here and want to enact the same foolishness in social programs that turned Cali into a shit hole. No wonder why we have the existing administration in state office.

I don't know if it is the same. Back of when you speak Cal and Oregon both were Red. And refuges were not, but now I think I see the reverse. This time I don't see Oregon being the destination for those disenchanted here (Cal) now. There are people here pissed as hell about Cal being a Sanctuary, farms being cut off from water. The cultural stratification is becoming a huge problem, at least it seems that way to me. Just driving through one County, it appears you crossed the Southern boarder several times within 50 miles. And property values are wildly different, so the tax system is a mess.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Being a native Oregonian, I don’t know that I blame Cali immigrants for our current liberal government. We pretty much have ourselves to blame for that. But my experience is that they move up here for what it is and, as soon as they get settled in all they do bitch about what it isn’t. They cry about the rain, property taxes, no self service gasoline, yada, yada, yada. Worse, they then turn around and tell you how much better it was in Cali. I miss the days when no one knew Oregon even existed, and if they did we were considered just a bunch of moss backed, flannel wearing lumberjacks. Sure made life (and fashion) easier..........

I still remember what has been attributed to Tom McCall "Welcome to Oregon, visit, but dont stay" program https://www.opb.org/artsandlife/article/former-governor-tom-mccall-message-visitors/

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I don't know if it is the same. Back of when you speak Cal and Oregon both were Red. And refuges were not, but now I think I see the reverse. This time I don't see Oregon being the destination for those disenchanted here (Cal) now. There are people here pissed as hell about Cal being a Sanctuary, farms being cut off from water. The cultural stratification is becoming a huge problem, at least it seems that way to me. Just driving through one County, it appears you crossed the Southern boarder several times within 50 miles. And property values are wildly different, so the tax system is a mess.

Yeah, I can see how in the rural areas, those that settle from the south would be more conservative. The left leaning loons that infest Corvallis, Eugene and Portland have influenced politics.

 

[MarAzul]

what has been attributed to Tom McCall

Oh yeah! That sign was indeed right on the I-5 in the Mountains south of Ashland.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Why did you take offense, and I did not?

The reason I did not, is because I see no personal affront. So I would why you do?

My father came here just as yours. I don't get this?

Because it makes hateful and bigoted assumptions and generalizations that are not accurate or truthful. It's insulting to many people who come here and to my father who is great man, husband, father, and American.

 

[Further]

I agree that we should vet folks that want to come to our nation. Mostly to make sure they don’t want to do us harm and that they want to work. After those criteria are met, I accept people from vastly differing backgrounds with vastly different ideas as I believe in America the better ideas will win out. I am not afraid of bad ideas as long as they aren’t dangerous people. I have no idea what marvelous advancements will come from new ways of thinking.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

I still remember what has been attributed to Tom McCall "Welcome to Oregon, visit, but dont stay" program https://www.opb.org/artsandlife/article/former-governor-tom-mccall-message-visitors/

The “good old days”.........when McCall was more Democrat than the registered Republican he was and his successor, Bob Straub was more Republican than the registered Democrat he was. Not only did they like and support each other, both those guys had the respect and (up to a point) cooperation from both sides of the aisle. I can’t even imagine anything like that today.