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Re: How far will the knicks go !!!!!

How far do u think the knicks will go in the up coming season.I think they are going to make the playoffs I hope that they win it all
 
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My prediction is this: They'll make the playoffs as a 7th or 8th seed, and win 1-2 games in the series, but fold in the first round. If they made it past the first round I'd be shocked, if they don't make the playoffs though (unless injuries), I'd be pretty surprised.
 
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I think they'll have a good season, but then be eliminated in the first round.
 
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ALL THE WAYY LOL!!jkI think this will be there best season and they will lose in the second rounnd!
 
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We are at the very best an 8 seed at this time, and I will not guarantee any type of playoff spot at this time. Still have to see how the team will mesh and how much potential trouble Zach gets himself into.
 
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I think they are a top 6 team in the East next season. I'm one of the only posters who predicted them to make the playoffs this last season. I think with Randolph they are a better team right now. Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (S_Guard @ Jul 3 2007, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Home</div>Well, that's for sure. The Celtics clearly suck.
 
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I don't think the Knicks will make the playoffs. They didn't improve any needs. They needed a defensive player, seeing that they gave up 100 points a game last season. They brought in a post scorer, which is something they already had. This team has bad chemistry and morale, which IMO, is a big factor in winning. All they did was add another bad disciplined player to the team. If they do make the playoffs, it will be as a 7 or 8 seed I feel.
 
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Fighting for 8th seed. If they do make the playoffs, out in first round.
 
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I think they showed glimpses of how good they can really be last season when healthy. Eddy Curry needs to learn to effectively pass out of the post, though. I can see the Knicks winning between 41-44 games. The East's best teams have been on a steady decline for some time now (besides the Cavs) and I really don't see how the Knicks DON'T have a chance to make the playoffs. Sure, it'll be tough. But I trust Isiah can rally his troops to the playoffs. I'd actually be very surprised if they didn't make the playoffs. They added some good young pieces to the squad. I think Nichols, a player they got from Portland in the Randolph deal, will help a lot more than most people think. He's a steal at the 53rd pick by Portland. The Knicks just need to find the right formula on the floor and figure out a good rotation. I think, barring any injuries, they can have a solid rotation:G Stephon MarburyG Jamal CrawfordF Quentin RichardsonF Zach RandolphC Eddy CurryBench:F David LeeG Nate RobinsonF Renaldo BalkmanG Mardy Collins'F Chandler/NicholsC Randolph MorrisThey should trade Jerome James or something for a second round pick somewhere. I'm not sure about Dickau and Fred Jones. I don't think they're gonna be with the team once training camp starts. But Isiah said a lot of good things about them at the press conference. Maybe, he changed his mind?
 
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My prediction is they will start off well with a healthy team but then some key players will get injured slowing them down and they will just miss the 8th seed
 
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Right Now what im mad about is that there divison is soo good now lol. We got NJ - carter,kidd,jefferson.Boston- Ray Allen, Pierce, al jeffersonToronto- Bosh, ford and all there international playersPhilidelphia- there the worst but maybe theyll do some big trade, they have thadius young and iggy thoAnd then there is the knicks!They're team looks like it can beat anyone right now
 
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For this topic, I do not see the Knicks making it to the playoffs at all. Getting Randolph is decent, but the trade really doesn't do a whole lot to improve things. Last year they played more up tempo, and it really catered to the perimeter players like Stephon Marbury, Q-Rich and some of them. That's when you guys were at your best I thought. This year they won't be able to play that same pace because their two big men are fat and slow, and won't be able to keep up that pace. When you only had one big man that was like that, it was fine. Now with both of your starters being bigger and fatter, it will turn into a more half court set team. That would be fine, except in a half court system, is when defense matters the most. At that point in time the Knicks will have no defense, so playing a half cour system will hurt them even more. Offensively Randolph does nothing to help out chemistry, just provides another chucker that shoots a very low percentage from the block. They also don't have a perimeter shooter to pull people off of doubling him and Eddy Curry, and even if they did, these are not guys that like to kick back out once they get the ball. So I don't see them finishing very well with Randolph there.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 3 2007, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think they are a top 6 team in the East next season. I'm one of the only posters who predicted them to make the playoffs this last season. I think with Randolph they are a better team right now. Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>However BCB, I think this has one of the most blatanly homeristic things in it. To say the Bucks are in a class above Orlando is retarded. The Bucks have no defense, no interior toughness, all they have is some scoring. The Magic have defense, have interior toughness, and with Rashard Lewis about to come to town, and Stan Van Gundy having the Magic run a bit more they have scoring now to. The Magic are a better team than the Bucks, and with the addition of Rashard Lewis will prove to be better than the Wizards, this upcoming year also.I'm looking at the playoff picture record wise being Pistons, Cavaliers, Bulls, Heat, as the top four teams in the league. Then the Nets/Raptors and Magic will fight for the 5-7 best records in the league, including the Nets and Raptors fighting for who gets to be a top 4 seed and win their division. Then the Knicks/Bobcats/Celtics and Wizards fighting for the final spot of the playoffs.
 
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I don't think getting Randolph catapulted the Knicks into championship contention by any stretch of the imagination, but I do believe at the very least they are playoff contenders. Zach Randolph doesn't shoot a horrible percentage for a PF that has range up to around 18 feet. I do, however, believe the Knicks can at least maintain a .500 record for the better part of the season, and that would be enough to secure them an 8th seed. People are referring to the Curry-Randolph tandem to be the "Black Hole". And sadly, that is true. For the reason that, neither one can pass at all from the post. But I think the one that really needs to learn how to pass from the post is Curry. He'll still be the team's focal point. Randolph doesn't need to lead the team in shots every night like he did with Portland. And most likely he's gonna have more open looks because the opposing team's defense will be focused on Curry. So his shooting percentage will more than likely go up.Also, valo, I don't think the Wizards will be bottom-feeders. I think they'll win their division this season. They were plagued with injuries all season long. Players were in and out of the lineup. I think this is how the season will end:1. Chicago2. Detroit3. Washington4. Toronto (due to division setup)5. Cleveland6. Orlando7. Miami8. Everyone else will fight for this spotMiami wasn't doing all that well even when Wade was healthy. They're just a really old team. They haven't added any pieces to help out. And with this new age of small ball, their oldtimers just won't be able to keep up.
 
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Zach Randolph shoots about 46 percent from the field, not very good when you consider that Dirk Nowitzki has a slightly higher field goal percentage, and takes mostly jump shots. Then you also take into account that he is among the worst in big men field goal percentage, and that's pretty bad field goal percentage. Plenty of other big men with shooting with mid range shots are shooting in the 50's for percentage. As for the Wizards, they are not a top team this year. The Wizards were winning the division before everyone got hurt last year, but things are changing this year. First off for last year, most of the time that Wade was healthy, Shaq was not healthy and was not playing. Once Shaq came back they started catching the Wizards while Caron Butler and Gilbert Arenas was still there. The Heat are a better team than the Wizards, and as long as both players play for about 50 games each, they will be able to beat out the Wizards. The Magic finally got an outside scoring presence, so unlike the Wizards, they will have alot more offensive balance than the Wizards have. They are a better defensive team than the Wizards, a better rebounding team. With them scoring more points per game, but keeping the same type of defense, they will be a much better team this up coming season and better than the Wizards. It will be between Miami and Orlando at who wins the division, with Miami's big question mark being how many games Shaq plays this season.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 4 2007, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think they are a top 6 team in the East next season. I'm one of the only posters who predicted them to make the playoffs this last season. I think with Randolph they are a better team right now. Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>Hmm...missing someone? And the Bucks? Pfft...I see the Knicks being an 8th seed at best actually. Everyone says that now they have two very nice post threats, but guess what...bad defensive teams don't win unless they are unbelievable on the other end...Plus the Knicks will have terrible chemistry? How many ball hogs do they have on their team? I'm counting around 5-6....And with Eddy and Curry, you'll get post scoring, but these guys are also lazy as hell on defense, and they don't get blocks or rebounds. Zach gets 10, which is just okay for the minutes he got in Portland...but Curry got like 6-8 a game, which is just pathetic.I'm still not buying the Knicks being a good team..7-8 team at best, but I don't even know if they'll do that.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NYK @ Jul 4 2007, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Right Now what im mad about is that there divison is soo good now lol. We got NJ - carter,kidd,jefferson.Boston- Ray Allen, Pierce, al jeffersonToronto- Bosh, ford and all there international playersPhilidelphia- there the worst but maybe theyll do some big trade, they have thadius young and iggy thoAnd then there is the knicks!They're team looks like it can beat anyone right now</div>The Knicks will be next to last in the division. I guarentee it.My prediction is:RaptorsNetsCelticsKnicks76ers
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 4 2007, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For this topic, I do not see the Knicks making it to the playoffs at all. Getting Randolph is decent, but the trade really doesn't do a whole lot to improve things. Last year they played more up tempo, and it really catered to the perimeter players like Stephon Marbury, Q-Rich and some of them. That's when you guys were at your best I thought. This year they won't be able to play that same pace because their two big men are fat and slow, and won't be able to keep up that pace. When you only had one big man that was like that, it was fine. Now with both of your starters being bigger and fatter, it will turn into a more half court set team. That would be fine, except in a half court system, is when defense matters the most. At that point in time the Knicks will have no defense, so playing a half cour system will hurt them even more. Offensively Randolph does nothing to help out chemistry, just provides another chucker that shoots a very low percentage from the block. They also don't have a perimeter shooter to pull people off of doubling him and Eddy Curry, and even if they did, these are not guys that like to kick back out once they get the ball. So I don't see them finishing very well with Randolph there.However BCB, I think this has one of the most blatanly homeristic things in it. To say the Bucks are in a class above Orlando is retarded. The Bucks have no defense, no interior toughness, all they have is some scoring. The Magic have defense, have interior toughness, and with Rashard Lewis about to come to town, and Stan Van Gundy having the Magic run a bit more they have scoring now to. The Magic are a better team than the Bucks, and with the addition of Rashard Lewis will prove to be better than the Wizards, this upcoming year also.I'm looking at the playoff picture record wise being Pistons, Cavaliers, Bulls, Heat, as the top four teams in the league. Then the Nets/Raptors and Magic will fight for the 5-7 best records in the league, including the Nets and Raptors fighting for who gets to be a top 4 seed and win their division. Then the Knicks/Bobcats/Celtics and Wizards fighting for the final spot of the playoffs.</div>I personally think we have a better team than the Heat. We all know Shaq will miss time too. He did it last season, and the year before that. His body just can't sustain the grueling 82 game schedule too. I think half the time he's able to play, but he's just sitting out in order to rest.Plus, the rest of the Heat doesn't look that good to me. Their bench is no where near ours.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CB4AllStar @ Jul 6 2007, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I personally think we have a better team than the Heat. We all know Shaq will miss time too. He did it last season, and the year before that. His body just can't sustain the grueling 82 game schedule too. I think half the time he's able to play, but he's just sitting out in order to rest.Plus, the rest of the Heat doesn't look that good to me. Their bench is no where near ours.</div>I personally think you don't, just look at the fact that Shaq only played in 41 games, and they still only finished with three less wins than the Raptors did. This year, while he will miss games, I think he will end up playing up around 50-55 games and we will see them squeeze out a few more wins. As for the Raptors, they won't run away with things in their division like they did last year. The Nets can easily pass you guys for the division lead, the Knicks have gotten more talented, and the Celtics got a big jump with Ray Allen. So they may even loose more games this year than they did last year, since they have to play 16 games against these four teams that have gotten better. Whereas with the Heat, the Magic are the only team in the division that has improved enough to give them a run for their money. The Wizards stayed pat, and are now the third best in the division in my opinion. Jason Richardson was nice, but the Bobcats are still not up enough to really compete, and with the Hawks upgrading through rookies, they will unquestionably struggle at times, because of young players. I think the Magic have a good chance of being better than the Raptors this year, and I definately think the Heat will be better.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I personally think you don't, just look at the fact that Shaq only played in 41 games, and they still only finished with three less wins than the Raptors did. This year, while he will miss games, I think he will end up playing up around 50-55 games and we will see them squeeze out a few more wins. As for the Raptors, they won't run away with things in their division like they did last year. The Nets can easily pass you guys for the division lead, the Knicks have gotten more talented, and the Celtics got a big jump with Ray Allen. So they may even loose more games this year than they did last year, since they have to play 16 games against these four teams that have gotten better. Whereas with the Heat, the Magic are the only team in the division that has improved enough to give them a run for their money. The Wizards stayed pat, and are now the third best in the division in my opinion. Jason Richardson was nice, but the Bobcats are still not up enough to really compete, and with the Hawks upgrading through rookies, they will unquestionably struggle at times, because of young players. I think the Magic have a good chance of being better than the Raptors this year, and I definately think the Heat will be better.</div>Hmm...I disagree...I think we're going to improve. We upgraded our bench with Delfino and Kapono...and Bryan Colangelo still isn't done yet either...Mo is leaving...but Joey and Juan are also likely going to be sent of of town.
 
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You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 06:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.</div>Yeah, but he's an upgrade over Juan Dixon, who only shoots...and he can't even make his shots. Kapono led the league in 3pt%, so it will atleast be helpful off the bench. And Delfino is multi dimensional. He can be tenacious, and he can also hit shots as well. He's a young player and should improve.And you're forgetting that TJ, Bosh, and Andrea will all improve..especially Andrea. He'll probably be more versatile this year in terms of scoring under the basket.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 4 2007, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>However BCB, I think this has one of the most blatanly homeristic things in it. To say the Bucks are in a class above Orlando is retarded.</div> I didn't put Milwaukee ahead of Orlando, I simply said that Orlando (and Charlotte) is one of my wildcard teams, I don't know if they are in the top 4 with that group, or somewhere just below them...<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 3 2007, 10:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You guys are upgrading your bench, with one person that didn't get much playing time with the Heat before this past year and was only playing because of injuries this past year. Minus three point shooting Kapono does little else, is not good at creating his own shot, and does not play good defense. The other person you got, is an inconsistent at best bench player in Delfino who also doesn't do much good on the court. You guys are still going to be a bad defensive team, and soft on the inside.</div> Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrewCityBuck @ Jul 6 2007, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pistons, Heat, Bulls, Cavaliers, then it's between the Wizards, Nets, Bucks. The wildcards are Orlando and Charlotte, I don't know if they take the next step with the top 4 or if they are at the top of the second group.</div>Oops, I didn't read that last part, next time I might need to do that.<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.</div>Even with Garbajosa you guys were not a good rebounding team, was soft inside, and was still not a good defensive team. I really don't see having him back changing any of that. As for Kapono, he got plenty of playing time this past season. In it, he only proved to be a three point shooter, with average athleticism at best, and he was not good at any thing else. Then with Delfino, your right, he didn't get much playing time. Some players need more time to settle down and not play so nervously, and that may work for Delfino. However, in the time he did get, he really didn't show much at all. He definately didn't show that tenacious side that CB4 is talking about.
 
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Most Pistons fans didn't mind that Carlos Delfino was traded, that has to tell you something.
 
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The Knicks will be in the mix for the 8th seed come to the last week of the season. Probably about 38-41 wins.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (RaptorFan#1 @ Jul 6 2007, 05:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your also forgetting we were missing Jorge Garbajosa for a good chunk of the season. He was our best defender next to Anthony Parker. You also forget that Delfino/Kapono really never had much PT last year, here in Toronto they will get plenty, and will be regulars in our rotation. Its also not even halfway into the offseason yet....and you know Bryan Colangelo is the best GM in the NBA, if he sees that there is a void in the lineup, he will fix it.</div>The only advantage the Raptors had on their opponents were their two-headed monster at PG in Ford and Calderon. Outside of those two headaches, the Raptors are fairly mediocre. Either Boston or NJ wins the Atlantic barring major injuries. I do pick Toronto winning the division because history shows NJ can't stay healthy. And neither can Boston.
 
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Let Em Hear This @ Jul 5 2007, 07:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't think getting Randolph catapulted the Knicks into championship contention by any stretch of the imagination, but I do believe at the very least they are playoff contenders. Zach Randolph doesn't shoot a horrible percentage for a PF that has range up to around 18 feet. I do, however, believe the Knicks can at least maintain a .500 record for the better part of the season, and that would be enough to secure them an 8th seed. People are referring to the Curry-Randolph tandem to be the "Black Hole". And sadly, that is true. For the reason that, neither one can pass at all from the post. But I think the one that really needs to learn how to pass from the post is Curry. He'll still be the team's focal point. Randolph doesn't need to lead the team in shots every night like he did with Portland. And most likely he's gonna have more open looks because the opposing team's defense will be focused on Curry. So his shooting percentage will more than likely go up.Also, valo, I don't think the Wizards will be bottom-feeders. I think they'll win their division this season. They were plagued with injuries all season long. Players were in and out of the lineup. I think this is how the season will end:1. Chicago2. Detroit3. Washington4. Toronto (due to division setup)5. Cleveland6. Orlando7. Miami8. Everyone else will fight for this spotMiami wasn't doing all that well even when Wade was healthy. They're just a really old team. They haven't added any pieces to help out. And with this new age of small ball, their oldtimers just won't be able to keep up.</div>Lets see my prediction for the East Next Season:1. Detroit2. New Jersey 3. Orlando/Washington4. Chicago/Cleveland5. Chicago/Cleveland6. Toronto 7. Orlando/Washington8. Miami/New YorkReason for Detroit in #1 Seed because of Chemistry and Experience with one another.Reason for New Jersey in #2 Seed because if kept healthy (Key Word for them) opposing teams can not use their PF players to defend the guards and SF because Jamaal Magloire is a proven scorer; his game (or was) can be compared to how David Lee plays and now there wont be offensive baggage like Jason Collins. (Time to play Chess match with the New Jersey Nets Bench)Orlando problem will be chemistry thats about it since they have the talent in the PG, SF, PF, and C position (If they keep Turk). Washington like New Jersey needs to keep healthy to show the effectiveness of their team. Both these teams are missing a key player for a position in the case of Washington its to have a rebounding presence in the center position since they just have mediocre center players under their disposal.Chicago was a dominate team because the East lacked talented Big Men this allowed P.J. Brown to actually "dominate" the glass. Chicago will now have two offensive baggages in Ben Wallace and P.J. Brown. Cleveland has the same situation as Chicago that Cleveland has an aged talented center in Big Z and now the East has gain some talent in the big man position.Toronto Ladies and Gents is no longer a surprise with a very versatile team but during the 1st round the New Jersey Nets shown the NBA league the weakness of the Toronto Raptors which is if Chris Bosh is made to become a 15-20 ft. jump shooter the team's chance of winning is unlikely to become the outcome. Toronto like New Jersey and Washington the biggest concern is health concerns in their rosters.Miami has become another year older reminds me more like the 2004-2005 Los Angeles Lakers with a roster composed of Gary Payton and Karl Malone which in the end contributed to nothing and lost the chance to win a championship against the Detroit Pistons. Miami were unable to find an agreement with Jason Kapono a huge help off the bench and now Dwayne Wade most likely to miss the beginning of the season for the Miami Heats. New York biggest concern will not be troubles outside the court but what happens within the court, best way to put this is the Knicks are missing two components in the game of Basketball which is Chemistry and Defense. I was watching the summer league online for all the teams and I did like how the Knicks Randolph Morris, Ronaldo Balkman, and Wilson Chandler played defensively and it seems that the Knicks are growing a second David Lee Numbers in the Back-Up Center Position in Randolph Morris who almost averaged a double-double in the Summer League. The Knicks made a team without thinking thoroughly which player they were going to build the team around since 1st it was Stephon Marbury and now it seems to be shifted to Eddy Curry's team. This lack of concentration and dedication to a player since the point guard position starter could have been Mardy Collin who I was really impressed with in the last couple of games he started in and shocked many spectators.
 
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