How far would you go for CP3 (With a Poll)

[Webster's Dictionary]

I've ordered them from what I feel would be least to give up, to most.
What would you give up in order to get CP3 here?

I'm pretty sure I checked each one of these and they all work in the ESPN trade machine.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

At first glance at the thread title, I wondered if this poll was going to list unpleasant actions (i.e., "I'd literally give up my left nut for CP3")

 

[ironcrotch]

just the tip, just the tip

 

[Minstrel]

What would you do for a Chris Paul bar?

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

the suspense is killing me! what are the choices going to be!?

 

[Webster's Dictionary]

Heh, didn't realize it posted the thread even if you were still editing the poll. I had to run all the possibilities through the trade machine to make sure they'd work.

 

[B-Roy]

Where's the option for Oden, Oden, Oden, Oden, and Oden?

 

[Idog1976]

I've ordered them from what I feel would be least to give up, to most.
What would you give up in order to get CP3 here?

I'm pretty sure I checked each one of these and they all work in the ESPN trade machine.

You forgot Roy in your list. I'd trade Roy for Paul as I think he would benefit least from adopting CP3. I for damn sure wouldn't ever consider your last three options or Batum + Oden.

 

[Idog1976]

just the tip, just the tip

LMAO! Repped.

 

[Idog1976]

Where's the option for Oden, Oden, Oden, Oden, and Oden?

Or...

[video=youtube;anwy2MPT5RE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anwy2MPT5RE[/video]

 

[Minstrel]

The most I'd give up:

Any mix of assets that don't include Roy or Oden

OR

Oden and expirings but nothing else

OR

Roy and expirings but nothing else

 

[Idog1976]

The most I'd give up:

Any mix of assets that don't include Roy or Oden

OR

Oden and expirings but nothing else

OR

Roy and expirings but nothing else

You are the absolute master of being concise while still READING MY FUCKING MIND!

 

[ehizzy3]

i'd pop the question


wait what

 

[Draco]

Rudy, Bayless, Miller and Joel are all filler, they don't even need to be mentioned as part of a trade when you’re talking about Paul, Roy, Oden, LaMarcus, or Batum. That first group has virtually zero value when you’re talking about moving players around from that second group.

My first preference would be to trade Batum, then LaMarcus, then Batum+Lamarcus, then Roy, then my final and least favorable offer would be sending out Oden.

When I look back at how I value Oden, and from the other posters I can tell I'm not alone, I've realized just how much bargaining power he has for a large extension this off-season even though he's only played in 1/3rd of the possible games.

 

[Masbee]

I've ordered them from what I feel would be least to give up, to most.
What would you give up in order to get CP3 here?

I'm pretty sure I checked each one of these and they all work in the ESPN trade machine.

You missed the deal that I think maybe, maybe NO will go for:

Paul & they dump Okafor's contract, for:

Batum, Bayless, Miller, Pryz, & their choice of three from Rudy, Babbitt, Williams, Pendy, Cunningham, Plus $3mil cash, Euros, Future picks.

You also missed the expanded version where Portland also send Camby and NO dumps Posey (and fodder).

I am not so sure they give huge value to Oden, thus he is worth more to us than to them. I don't think they would want LaMarcus with his huge contract. But, if they did, I would trade him for Paul - but not with Batum and certainly not with Oden.

 

[espn_hall_of_famer]

I'd agree with above. You forgot a version with Camby.

I really don't think they'll take on LaMarcus and his contract with West on their roster already. So most of those LMA options are really mute.

I think the keys are items with no Oden or Batum, items with no Oden or no Batum individually, and combos that add Okafor and we add Camby.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Oden/Batum/Miller/Przybilla

 

[Idog1976]

Oden/Batum/Miller/Przybilla

I feel a Fez Hammersticks interviewed by Cho for Asst. GM video coming on.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I feel a Fez Hammersticks interviewed by Cho for Asst. GM video coming on.

I know what you're saying: It's A LOT to give up.

I agree but when does the best PG in the League ever come on the market who's only 25 years old? Never.

It's a unique situation and with Batum/Oden w/ $14m in expiring deals, none of those other teams even come close to this offer.

 

[noknobs]

I know what you're saying: It's A LOT to give up.

I agree but when does the best PG in the League ever come on the market who's only 25 years old? Never.

It's a unique situation and with Batum/Oden w/ $14m in expiring deals, none of those other teams even come close to this offer.

Okay, so why give up so much? Who are we bidding against, ourselves?

 

[kobeownslebron]

I'd trade anybody on Lakers except for Kobe and Gasol.

 

[Idog1976]

I'd trade utter garbage plus no salary relief for CP3.

See there's no competition out there Fez no need to throw out Oden. LMA or Batum is plenty. The goal should be not to slightly improve our team but rather to win a championship. That means you retain Oden and Roy at all costs. We can outbid anyone in the league for CP3 WITHOUT offering Oden or Roy.

 

[B-Roy]

See there's no competition out there Fez no need to throw out Oden. LMA or Batum is plenty. The goal should be not to slightly improve our team but rather to win a championship. That means you retain Oden and Roy at all costs. We can outbid anyone in the league for CP3 WITHOUT offering Oden or Roy.

I think OKC could actually pull of some pretty convincing offers:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2c3u3xw

Or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=27yz6vh

Depending on how New Orleans views their prospects over ours. The second one in particular is superior to our offers imo, if NO believes Westbrook can play SG.

 

[kobeownslebron]

Lakers could offer Odom and Bynum, plus two good promising young rookies, and an expriring contract in Vujacic. No one can top that. Odom > Batum, Bynum > Aldridge. Hornets would be fools to not take L.A.'s deal. I just don't know if L.A. is willing to deal both.

 

[Idog1976]

I think OKC could actually pull of some pretty convincing offers:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2c3u3xw

Or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=27yz6vh

Depending on how New Orleans views their prospects over ours. The second one in particular is superior to our offers imo, if NO believes Westbrook can play SG.

I don't think the second one is superior, perhaps a wash. Not sure Westbrook is really a 2 plus that negates local boy wonder Thorton an asset they already have on the uber cheap. Sure Westbrook is better, but it doesn't help them as much IMO as a Collison, Thorton, Batum 1 - 3. The other guys are expirings and/or garbage. It's intriguing to be sure. Final, tip in our favor is Monty who will have a statue erected for him downtown if we get CP3. Westbrook >>>Batum I know, just not a position of need for them. Certainly an interesting trade idea though!

Oh and we stomp the first offer. You seem to think Shinn wants a salary of under 12 million or something. I'm sure he'd like that, but a team that is competitive to avoid bad habits i.e. Camby + Batum + Bayless being better IMO allowing Posey and Okafor to be shed or the LMA variants are all superior IMO. I just think you are over valuing shedding salary and understating Monty's desire to win during the rebuilding process. It's all conjecture at this point.

I was mostly mocking the Laker fan

 

[Idog1976]

oh one last point CP3 would bolt OKC in 2 years for sure and that might add into the equation either on a NOH respect of CP3 side or OKC sides fears.

 

[B-Roy]

Oh and we stomp the first offer. You seem to think Shinn wants a salary of under 12 million or something. I'm sure he'd like that, but a team that is competitive to avoid bad habits i.e. Camby + Batum + Bayless being better IMO allowing Posey and Okafor to be shed or the LMA variants are all superior IMO. I just think you are over valuing shedding salary and understating Monty's desire to win during the rebuilding process. It's all conjecture at this point.

Look, it's all speculation at this point. We don't know whether or not New Orleans values our assets more than theirs or vice versa, or if they even care about being competitive. If they did, I would think that Shinn would have at least tried appeasing Paul with actual moves. I'm just making a case for a team that I think has a legitimate chance at getting Paul, because I feel OKC's young players are as good, or better than some of ours.

 

[B-Roy]

oh one last point CP3 would bolt OKC in 2 years for sure and that might add into the equation either on a NOH respect of CP3 side or OKC sides fears.

You don't know that...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Lakers could offer Odom and Bynum, plus two good promising young rookies, and an expriring contract in Vujacic. No one can top that. Odom > Batum, Bynum > Aldridge. Hornets would be fools to not take L.A.'s deal. I just don't know if L.A. is willing to deal both.

Odom is old.

Bynum is as injury prone as they come. You rag on LMA's contract when Bynum, who's knees needed to be drained every other day late in the sesaon, is owed $45,473,001.

It doesn't even come close to what other teams could offer.

Young promising rookies -- Caracter and Ebanks? Come on, son! I'm sure NOH is clamoring for these two second rounders. Plus, they have better prospects already in place with Brackins and Pondexter. Not to mention they have David West at the four.

Expiring contract of Sasha? GTFO with that. It's probably what, $5m?

That doesn't come close to the cap relief that NOH wants and POR could offer with their $14m in exp. deals.

In short, LA doesn't have a chance.

 

[Idog1976]

You don't know that...

Fair enough it is as you said in your other post all speculation. The OKC offers are definitely scary. If it's totally Shinn's show and Monty and CP3 have no voice it would seem it's down to OKC, NYK and Portland. I for one wouldn't give up Batum + Oden no way.