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BonesJones said:
Blazers could finish higher than any Western team other than the Warriors.

Lillard, CJ, and Nurk are equal to Russ, PG, and Melo. And we're deeper. And our big 3 meshes well with each other and there's doesn't.
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Yes!
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Just in our division, Thunder lost their defensive anchor in Roberson, Millsap has missed like 40 games for Denver, Gobert missed a bunch of games for the Jazz, and Butler just went down for Minny.
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Roberson is a good defender. He is not their defensive anchor lol. He guards one guy. And he's not even their best defender. And he's an embarrassing FT shooter.
 
Scalma said:
You said top teams. How are Denver and Utah top teams? They were both in the lottery last year.

Milsap was a shell of the player he once was before he even got injured.

Wolves just lost Butler. Don’t see how that’s affected anything up until now.

Roberson? Then I get to counter with when Portland lost Aminu. Actually, Aminu is probably more valuable since he’s not a negative on one end of the court.

Injuries happen. To say it’s the main reason why Portland is where it’s at isn’t giving them enough credit, and honestly, sounds like something a person doubling down on their bullshit, like yourself, would say to justify themselves. Whatever.
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Utah was the 5 seed last year and made it to the 2nd round.
 
I didn't realize MIN was such a horrible road team, even before Butler went down:

"The Wolves are two games into a stretch of eight straight against teams with winning records. And that stretch is not off to a good start, with losses in Portland and Utah dropping them to 2-13 on the road in 2018."

They were 1-11 in their last 12 road games even before Butler was injured. Given the fact that they are horrible in close games (11 blown 4th quarter leads) and suck on the road, it's a wonder they've won as many games as they have.

Inability to close out games and struggling on the road are usually the hallmarks of a young team. MIN went out and got Butler, Teague, Gibson and Crawford to fix these issues. They might be able to hang on and make the playoffs for the first time in 14 years, but even if they do, teams that struggle in close games don't tend to fare very well in the post season.

BNM
 
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HCP said:
I would consider that the Spurs are going through...... the Wolves losing Butler........Milsap in Denver, Gobert in Utah and OKC when they lost Roberson all injuries to other teams that have and will have an impact on us. Roberson wasn't a star by any means, but he was very important to them on the defensive end. So that puts us at what 7th or 8th. I thought we'd battle for the 8th spot and so that's about right. Our guys have really stepped it up. I will also say like the thread I started that the schedule is about to get tougher...... we have a stretch coming up where we play Golden State, Cleveland, Houston, Boston, @OKC and @ NOLA coming up........ we lose 2 or 3 of those, or god forbid 4 or 5...... we are on the edge or not making in the playoffs at all.

So get your little digs in now kid, but I say we wait and see how we look at mid April. Oh ya, I didn't mention our last 4 games of the season...... did you see what and where they are? @Houston, @San Antonio, @Denver and back home against the Jazz.

Let that marinate before you run off to class.
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He who laughs last laughs best.
 
It's crazy how all five teams in the NW are still in the race.
 
09/23/2017 is not 3/27/2018. Superstars mean much less if your team is not in the playoffs, does not have home court advantage or strengthened a berth through a 14 game win streak.
 
HCP said:
My prediction of 41 wins is about right. I thought we’d lose our games to OKC anyway. This bones guy isn’t serious right talking that we could finish ahead of everybody but GS because we are deeper?!? Get the fuck outta here FAMS
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I mean, I didn't know Houston would be that good, but pretty much. This type of response is reserved for your predictions now.
 
HCP said:
Well first off, you really don’t need to tell people to “shut up”, especially ME . The rest of our division got better and we’ll most likely finish 5th in our DIVISION and you want to say we will “possibly” finish 2nd in the ENTIRE West.
You need to take deep breaths and quit comping back at people on here so aggressively.
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"Most likely finish 5th".

Maybe you shouldve taken my advice. Should I call out everyone who either laughed/talked shit about my prediction for this team considering yesterday a bunch of people got on me for being too negative?
 
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HCP said:
I am not at all. I said Blazers fans over here would think we would make the WCF if not further if we had that much talent. Shit, they said we'd get HCA in the first round with what we have now.
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Yeah I did in the prediction thread.
However @Orion Bailey refused to count my prediction because I didn't give a number. It's okay though, I expected 4th seed, not 3rd.
 
WillG said:
I think this would be the best strategy. Cj has a flair & handle that would really suit the PG position if he were given the chance to grow in the position, full time, for a season or two. He has a high ceiling and i really believe he would blossom if given the 'keys' to the team.
He also is younger & has less mileage on the clock. Better defender.

There would be backlash from fans - but these are the type of tough moves that top tier GMs have to make. Internal growth, with the pieces we have, is not going to cut it.
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Sorry but calling CJ a better defender than Lillard is perhaps my fav post in this thread. :D
 
honkicracker said:
Yeah I did in the prediction thread.
However @Orion Bailey refused to count my prediction because I didn't give a number. It's okay though, I expected 4th seed, not 3rd.
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HCP was talking so much shit about predictions man... dude deserves all the flack he gets for his.
 
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Northwest Division with 4 of 5 teams in the Playoffs and the 5th knocking on the door.
Pacific Division with 1 0f 5 teams in the Playoffs. It doesn't really mean much since Division are almost worthless any more but it's quite the contrast.
 
From NBA.com:

"Wild Northwest
The Northwest Division this season will go down as the most competitive in the current six-division format -- and it's not even close. The team that finishes last in the Northwest this season will be only three games behind the team that wins the division crown. There's never been a last-place team within less than 11 games of the winner in this current format, which has been in play for 14 seasons."

BNM
 
Boob-No-More said:
From NBA.com:

"Wild Northwest
The Northwest Division this season will go down as the most competitive in the current six-division format -- and it's not even close. The team that finishes last in the Northwest this season will be only three games behind the team that wins the division crown. There's never been a last-place team within less than 11 games of the winner in this current format, which has been in play for 14 seasons."

BNM
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Do you think injuries to key guys on pretty much every team kinda kept everybody close? I know there is more to it than that, but Milsap, Gobert, Butler, Roberson(Not a star, but pretty important to OKC) all missing big chunks kinda threw monkey wrenchs out there. We were pretty damn lucky when it came to injuries this year for once.
 
HCP said:
Do you think injuries to key guys on pretty much every team kinda kept everybody close? I know there is more to it than that, but Milsap, Gobert, Butler, Roberson(Not a star, but pretty important to OKC) all missing big chunks kinda threw monkey wrenchs out there. We were pretty damn lucky when it came to injuries this year for once.
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Injuries are part of the game, and being one of they youngest teams in the leagues tends to result in fewer games lost to injury. Old guys tend to get hurt more and take longer to recover, and in some cases just take games of to rest.

All four of OKCs best players played more games than Dame. Their bench has also been healthy all season. Their top 4 bench players have all played more games than Dame (and Chief and Moe). If you look at their top 9 players, Roberson is the only one who will play in fewer than 76 games). Of our top 9, Dame, Chief, Moe and Shabazz will all play fewer than 76 games. Even if you include Roberson missing 43 games, their top nine rotation players will miss a total of 65 games. Our top 9 will miss 64 games. OKC's failure to meet expectations has very little to do with injuries.

Losing Butler definitely hurt MIN, but three of their starters will play in all 82 games. None of ours will. The real problem is Thibs plays his starters into the ground. That leads to injuries and fatigue. Even with a healthy Butler, they were bound to fade late in the season. Not as much as they did, but their early season record was fool's gold due to the fact that Thibs was playing all of his starters big minutes.

Ultimately, you play the games with the guys you have. We were on fire before Moe got hurt. His late season injury hurt us, as did losing Dame and Ed for a couple games.

BNM
 
You and all your numbers and stats. I’ll factcheck and get back to you.
 
Boston sort of shows you can win through injuries...traded their allstar IT, then Hayward went down then Kyrie....still putting wins up.....depth is crucial to success
 
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