How much Aldridge is too much?

[cmeese47]

LA has done a lot of great things for team this year, with his vast improvement on the rebounding side being the biggest. However, with LA leading the league in shots and posting a career low fg% and true shooting % one has to wonder how many shots are too many for LA?

Personally 30 would be fine with me if half were in the paint or on the low block.

This is his shot chart the last 30 days as you can see his percentages are generally much higher in the painted area. However, only about 35% of his fga are coming from there. If LA could increase his fga to around a 50/50 split I am sure his fg% would once again approach 50% and he would likely be attempting around 8 free throws per game instead of 5.5. With a near 50/50 split LA would be averaging probably 26-28 a game and Portland would be a much bigger threat in the playoffs.

Keep feeding LA just make sure it is more on the low block and paint and less 20 foot jumpers.

 

[PapaG]

I never knew that LMA shoots a lot of jump shots.

Thank you for posting this new information.

 

[rasheedfan2005]

 

[Strenuus]

You learn something new everyday....

 

[cmeese47]

I never knew that LMA shoots a lot of jump shots.

Thank you for posting this new information.

Yes he does and because he takes so many his true shooting percentage is well below league average.

The issue is not should LA take jump shots because he needs to the issue is a 20 ft jumper from LA the best shot our offense can generate. Personally for us to be a success in the playoffs we cannot live off LA shooting 20 foot jumpers we need to be able to get easy baskets. Getting LA on the block and on the free throw line will do just that. He has stepped up as the teams leader now he just needs to make a few adjustments.

 

[Natebishop3]

Yes he does and because he takes so many his true shooting percentage is well below league average.

The issue is not should LA take jump shots because he needs to the issue is a 20 ft jumper from LA the best shot our offense can generate. Personally for us to be a success in the playoffs we cannot live off LA shooting 20 foot jumpers we need to be able to get easy baskets. Getting LA on the block and on the free throw line will do just that. He has stepped up as the teams leader now he just needs to make a few adjustments.

He's talking about a thread started by Brianfromwa that hammered on this very fact and turned into a huge flame fest.

 

[Strenuus]

He's talking about a thread started by Brianfromwa that hammered on this very fact and turned into a huge flame fest.

Actually, that thread was started by BF, IIRC.

 

[Natebishop3]

Actually, that thread was started by BF, IIRC.

I think there were two threads, weren't there? One asking why we aren't on the LA bandwagon, and one from Brian about LA's shot selection.

 

[Strenuus]

I think there were two threads, weren't there? One asking why we aren't on the LA bandwagon, and one from Brian about LA's shot selection.

Perhaps... I may have missed it... I remember the Dame one, though.

 

[PapaG]

I think there were two threads, weren't there? One asking why we aren't on the LA bandwagon, and one from Brian about LA's shot selection.

BrianfromWA started posting in multiple threads about LMA's propensity for shooting a certain shot, regardless of if the thread was about LMA.

I just learned tonight that LMA shoots jump shots, though. Also, is everybody else getting a broken image in the OP? I can't see the shot chart that shows me how LMA shoots jump shots, which I did not know until this thread.

 

[Natebishop3]

BrianfromWA started posting in multiple threads about LMA's propensity for shooting a certain shot, regardless of if the thread was about LMA.

I just learned tonight that LMA shoots jump shots, though. Also, is everybody else getting a broken image in the OP? I can't see the shot chart that shows me how LMA shoots jump shots, which I did not know until this thread.

Now you know, and knowing is...

[video=youtube;pele5vptVgc]

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

One thing to consider is that he may not be as successful if he goes into the paint more often. I think he is trying to keep the defense off balance, if he is making jump shots they have to play up close to him and he has a better chance to go to the basket. However if he could dish off more when going to the basket, more attempts at the basket might be successful for the team overall.

 

[PapaG]

Now you know, and knowing is...

[video=youtube;pele5vptVgc]

You could probably merge this thread, but that would actually be performing as a mod on this site.

 

[Natebishop3]

You could probably merge this thread, but that would actually be performing as a mod on this site.

Can you go one day without criticizing mods? The magic eight ball says, "outlook not so good."

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I guess I'll throw this link in just to stir things up, it's a little boring since BF left... http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/articles/lamarcus-aldridge-is-overrated

 

[BlazerCaravan]

I guess I'll throw this link in just to stir things up, it's a little boring since BF left... http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/articles/lamarcus-aldridge-is-overrated

Of course he is. No Blazer player is actually good. The team is about to lose 30 in a row.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

LMA is like the cowbell.

And I gotta have more cowbell.

 

[blazerboy30]

LA has done a lot of great things for team this year, with his vast improvement on the rebounding side being the biggest. However, with LA leading the league in shots and posting a career low fg% and true shooting % one has to wonder how many shots are too many for LA?

Personally 30 would be fine with me if half were in the paint or on the low block.

This is his shot chart the last 30 days as you can see his percentages are generally much higher in the painted area. However, only about 35% of his fga are coming from there. If LA could increase his fga to around a 50/50 split I am sure his fg% would once again approach 50% and he would likely be attempting around 8 free throws per game instead of 5.5. With a near 50/50 split LA would be averaging probably 26-28 a game and Portland would be a much bigger threat in the playoffs.

Keep feeding LA just make sure it is more on the low block and paint and less 20 foot jumpers.

This is called data mining, and BrianfromWa does it a lot as well. It's fun and people think it is "analysis", but the truth is that no conclusions can be made because it is far from complete.

For example, sure it would be great if LMA would only take 20 dunks per game. Why doesn't he do that? His EFG% would go up, it seems obvious that he should only take 20 dunks per game.

The answer probably is related to the fact that the defense won't give those up. Banging in the low block all game is tiring and can take a toll on a player throughout a game and an NBA season. The point is that we don't really know if his effectiveness would go up from where it is now.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

This is called data mining, and BrianfromWa does it a lot as well. It's fun and people think it is "analysis", but the truth is that no conclusions can be made because it is far from complete.

For example, sure it would be great if LMA would only take 20 dunks per game. Why doesn't he do that? His EFG% would go up, it seems obvious that he should only take 20 dunks per game.

The answer probably is related to the fact that the defense won't give those up. Banging in the low block all game is tiring and can take a toll on a player throughout a game and an NBA season. The point is that we don't really know if his effectiveness would go up from where it is now.

Muh'fuggin repped.

 

[Buffalo Blazer]

This is called data mining, and BrianfromWa does it a lot as well. It's fun and people think it is "analysis", but the truth is that no conclusions can be made because it is far from complete.

For example, sure it would be great if LMA would only take 20 dunks per game. Why doesn't he do that? His EFG% would go up, it seems obvious that he should only take 20 dunks per game.

The answer probably is related to the fact that the defense won't give those up. Banging in the low block all game is tiring and can take a toll on a player throughout a game and an NBA season. The point is that we don't really know if his effectiveness would go up from where it is now.

Thank you.

As I've said in earlier threads on this tired subject, you don't get to pick where you shoot from every possession. If we could do that, we wouldn't even need LMA. I'd just tee up Wes for three every time down. That's what the beloved numbers tell you is the best course of action.

Damn teams and their defense, not allowing us to maximize our eFG.

 

[ponderguy]

Thank you.

As I've said in earlier threads on this tired subject, you don't get to pick where you shoot from every possession. If we could do that, we wouldn't even need LMA. I'd just tee up Wes for three every time down. That's what the beloved numbers tell you is the best course of action.

Damn teams and their defense, not allowing us to maximize our eFG.

we just need to play charlotte more.

 

[cmeese47]

This is called data mining, and BrianfromWa does it a lot as well. It's fun and people think it is "analysis", but the truth is that no conclusions can be made because it is far from complete.

For example, sure it would be great if LMA would only take 20 dunks per game. Why doesn't he do that? His EFG% would go up, it seems obvious that he should only take 20 dunks per game.

The answer probably is related to the fact that the defense won't give those up. Banging in the low block all game is tiring and can take a toll on a player throughout a game and an NBA season. The point is that we don't really know if his effectiveness would go up from where it is now.

Except we do in 2011 LA previous highest scoring season a season he also shot 50% and also resulted in a career high in FTA's. The key stat was LA taking a career high attempts at the rim and between 3-9 feet.

 

[blazerboy30]

Except we do in 2011 LA previous highest scoring season a season he also shot 50% and also resulted in a career high in FTA's. The key stat was LA taking a career high attempts at the rim and between 3-9 feet.

In 2011-2012 LA averaged 21.5ppg with a PER of 22.7.
In 2013-2014 LA is averaging 23.7ppg with a PER of 23.1.

In 2011-2012 the Blazers averaged 97.2 ppg
In 2013-2014 the Blazers are averaging 108 ppg.

Like I said earlier, you're data mining.

 

[jlprk]

I guess I'll throw this link in just to stir things up, it's a little boring since BF left... http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/articles/lamarcus-aldridge-is-overrated

Very nice site. Adjusted win % vs actual win %

 

[STOMP]

Except we do in 2011 LA previous highest scoring season a season he also shot 50% and also resulted in a career high in FTA's. The key stat was LA taking a career high attempts at the rim and between 3-9 feet.

thats what having a great pass first PG (Miller) & a pretty decent High Post Center (Camby) mixed with LA is capable of producing. In the current blend, Aldridge is their only legit High Post player (thought Joel tries) and Lillard is much more of a lead or scoring PG. I'd guess if LA was pared with similar types of players as 2011 we'd see similar game/stats...chemistry matters

STOMP

 

[ponderguy]

box score geeks have interesting stats but they seem like they are trying to use stats to go against common sense. They had the pacers as the 7 seed in the east and chose the blazers to be the 5th worst team this year. They also had the Mavericks, Hawks and Pistons as top 10 teams.
Pacers preview summary

The Pacers turned a lot of heads when they took the Heat to 7 games last season. They've been the media darling of the NBA, with the future looking so bright. We've got some bad news. On the path the team is currently on, we expect them to be a first round exit team. Much of this boils down to the media's tendency to overreact to recent events.

Trailblazers preview summary

It wasn't that long ago that the Blazers were winning around 50 games a season and regularly making the playoffs. Then, owner Paul Allen decided that it was rebuilding time! Since then, the Blazers have been shuffling deckchairs in all parts of the organization. We will evaluate whether this has amounted to anything (spoiler alert: not so much), and whether the Blazers can expect more of the same this season.

http://www.boxscoregeeks.com/teams

 

[cmeese47]

In 2011-2012 LA averaged 21.5ppg with a PER of 22.7.
In 2013-2014 LA is averaging 23.7ppg with a PER of 23.1.

In 2011-2012 the Blazers averaged 97.2 ppg
In 2013-2014 the Blazers are averaging 108 ppg.

Like I said earlier, you're data mining.

So are you give LA the same number of shot attempts based on his FG% and LA averages 26.7 that year. Add in the differences in his rebounding and his PER would be around 27. Basically when LA shoots more shots between the rim and 9 feet he is more efficient simple as that.

That is not a slight on LA but it is something he can improve on. Lebron was always a great scorer but when he stopped taking as many threes and long jumpers he became crazy efficient. This version of LA is good but he can be better.

 

[blazerboy30]

So are you give LA the same number of shot attempts based on his FG% and LA averages 26.7 that year. Add in the differences in his rebounding and his PER would be around 27. Basically when LA shoots more shots between the rim and 9 feet he is more efficient simple as that.

You're extrapolating and that can lead to a lot of false conclusions.

 

[maxiep]

I love this quote:

It wasn't that long ago that the Blazers were winning around 50 games a season and regularly making the playoffs. Then, owner Paul Allen decided that it was rebuilding time!

Yeah, it had absolutely nothing to do with Brandon's and GO's knees. Nothing. Nothing at all. It was a choice.

That quote was where they lost me.

 

[PapaG]

Did you guys know LMA shoots jump shots?

http://sportstwo.com/threads/256408...M-ESPN-CSNNW?p=3251871&viewfull=1#post3251871