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How much longer do you think Olshey deserves?

  • One more summer

    Votes: 26 40.0%

  • Two more summers

    Votes: 15 23.1%

  • Three or more

    Votes: 24 36.9%
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His 2016 offseason may have just brought us down to being the worst team in our division, how much longer does he deserve in your opinion?
 
He's good and steady. We should just enjoy that.

He's like what Ridley Scott is to movies. Good with some great films and he makes the studios profits. If given enough time, he'll get to the 'finals' as a nominee but might not win the big one....at least, not yet.

Unless a generational talent ala a Scorsese or Coppola comes knocking on our door, there's no reason to give this guy the boot.
 
Think he deserves another summer. But if those contracts can't be moved next summer then give him the elbow out the door.
 
Those contracts he gave out, except for turner, were all for young players and you pay a young player for what they will do by the end of their contract not the year after they sign. Evaluating NO would be better done after next year then this year, seeing how Nurk fits int his year and if our retained FA from last year improve at all.
 
Phatguysrule said:
I think he's doing well with what he has to work with. This is a tough market to sell NBA players on.

I'm not sure who we could get that would be better... So why make a move?
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Even Denver got Milsap.... Denver. Is this place like Norther Exposure or something?!
 
JoeImmoji said:
He's good and steady. We should just enjoy that.

He's like what Ridley Scott is to movies. Good with some great films and he makes the studios profits. If given enough time, he'll get to the 'finals' as a nominee but might not win the big one....at least, not yet.

Unless a generational talent ala a Scorsese or Coppola comes knocking on our door, there's no reason to give this guy the boot.
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He knows how to talk up agood game. That doesn't mean that he's a good GM.
 
I'd give him exactly 599 more days. The trade line for the 2018-2019 season. His last real move brought us Nurkic and this off season just started. Very young team, 3 stars, I think a year and half is fair to see what he's built.
 
He deserves at least one more summer. He has made no promises we were going to win a championship this season, last season, or the one before that. I think he has done pretty well with what he has had. That said, the contracts he handed out last summer to Turner, Crabbe, and Meyers are looking worse by the day. He's been on a three or four year plan to get us back contending. I'd say that leaves him a year.
I like Olshey he's a realistic guy. He knows what he is doing for the most part. He can definately talk the talk. The question is whether he can walk the walk. That is yet to be seen. Liking the guy and what he has to say only goes so far. Still.
We are all giving him a lot of shit. Complaining that he is doing nothing. Just because we havent made a trade doesnt mean he hasnt been working the phones like a man possesed. I know he's not going to make a trade unless he knows it will benefit this team. For the time being I say keep him. Besides who else is out there to replace him that will do better? Would you guys rather have Phil Jackson?
 
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noknobs said:
I'd give him exactly 599 more days. The trade line for the 2018-2019 season. His last real move brought us Nurkic and this off season just started. Very young team, 3 stars, I think a year and half is fair to see what he's built.
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He got lucky with that move
 
But flexibility and assets. olsheys fucking buzzwords along with upside and influx.

One more summer
 
I don't believe. And haven't for a few years. I don't believe this market is as bad as he tries to shoulder it off as. I don't believe he buys into it and hasn't since day one. If you don't believe in something. You can't sell it. He's a large market guy that took this job because Paul Allen gave him an offer he couldn't refuse at the time. The market problem and the inability to attract free agent is a Neil Olshey problem. Not a Portland problem and has been since day one.

You top that off with the lack of creativity he has shown in the last five years when it comes to the draft. Absolutely getting nothing with our assets in 2015 and then over paying a bunch players in 2016 to salaries they weren't worth. It's like BG said, he's full of hot air. He has 80% of you and Mr. Allen buffaloed. Bottom line, he can't sell it. To the Free Agent. To the opposing General Manger. To anyone important that could play a key role to getting this team to where I think this organization wants to get to.

It's way, way, wayyyy time for him to go. He's had five years. Wasted resources. Lots excuses and nothing to show for it.
 
I believe he will make a trade before training camp. I think he waiting for FA dies down before he works for trade.
 
OneLifeToLive said:
I don't believe. And haven't for a few years. I don't believe this market is as bad as he tries to shoulder it off as. I don't believe he buys into it and hasn't since day one. He's a large market guy that took this job because Paul Allen gave him an offer he couldn't refuse at the time. The market problem and the inability to attract free agent is a Neil Olshey problem. Not a Portland problem and has been since day one.

You top that off with the lack of creativity he has shown in the last five years when it comes to the draft. Absolutely getting nothing with our assets in the 2015 and then over paying a bunch players in 2016 to salaries they weren't worth. It's like BG said, he's full of hot air. He has 80% of you and Mr. Allen buffaloed. Bottom line, he can't sell it. To the Free Agent. To the opposing General Manger. To anyone important that could play a key role to getting this team to where I think this organization wants to get to.

It's way, way, wayyyy time for him to go. He's had five years. Wasted resources. Lots excuses and nothing to show for it.
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I think we need someone who thinks outside the box. We need maybe a Peter Brand type. Someone who understands our limitations. If that comes from someone inside the organization, so be it.
 
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KingSpeed said:
His trade for Nurkic was the best in the NBA last year. And Nurkic is better than Milsap or Butler or even Paul George actually. And he's younger than all three.
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Yea, Nurkic is better than three players that have been all stars, and one thats been an MVP candidate.
 
Olshey doesn't like it here and hasn't made any bones about it. Everyone that works around him knows it and he doesn't even try to hide it. Tough to sell Portland when you would rather be in LA.
 
TBpup said:
Olshey doesn't like it here and hasn't made any bones about it. Everyone that works around him knows it and he doesn't even try to hide it. Tough to sell Portland when you would rather be in LA.
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Must be why he turns down interviews and doesn't push the company to let him interview elsewhere. Paul Allen is the type of guy to let someone mail it in and force them to work for him anyway.
 
TBpup said:
Olshey doesn't like it here and hasn't made any bones about it. Everyone that works around him knows it and he doesn't even try to hide it. Tough to sell Portland when you would rather be in LA.
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How much longer does he have on his contract?
 
when he signed all that mediocre talent in the last offseason, i thought he wasnt long for this world. Then the Nurk trade fell into his lap and he has basically all but admitted we need upgrades and doesnt even say Meyers name anymore.

he's learning.
 
TBpup said:
Olshey doesn't like it here and hasn't made any bones about it. Everyone that works around him knows it and he doesn't even try to hide it. Tough to sell Portland when you would rather be in LA.
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If he doesn't like it here with an owner that is willing to cater to his every whim.... then maybe he should take his valet parking loving butt back to the Clippers. The front offices of other organizations are littered with competent people who will never get a shot. Always easy to set up some interviews from their ranks. Billy Beane was a part time scout. Theo Epstein was working while attending an Ivy League school. You can find competency anywhere.
 
TBpup said:
Olshey doesn't like it here and hasn't made any bones about it. Everyone that works around him knows it and he doesn't even try to hide it. Tough to sell Portland when you would rather be in LA.
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Meanwhile, he is holding this team hostage due to the way he thinks and feels. Also by sheer incompetence.

Destroyer of Worlds said:
Must be why he turns down interviews and doesn't push the company to let him interview elsewhere. Paul Allen is the type of guy to let someone mail it in and force them to work for him anyway.
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Or he didn't want to go to Atlanta. This relationship with Neil very well could be a perfect working relationship that allows Allen to make most of the decisions while Neil sits back and waits to get instruction from him. I just can't see why he could be so in love with the job he has done. Unless it's a situation that the owner is making all decisions and Olshey is the just a puppet doing what he says.

You can't be in love with what Neil is done. Not even close. Total disappointment.
 
ripcityboy said:
If he doesn't like it here with an owner that is willing to cater to his every whim.... then maybe he should take his valet parking loving butt back to the Clippers. The front offices of other organizations are littered with competent people who will never get a shot. Always easy to set up some interviews from their ranks. Billy Beane was a part time scout. Theo Epstein was working while attending an Ivy League shcool. You can find competency anywhere.
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Id be willing to bring Chad Buchanan back. He atleast was able to broker a deal that netted the #6, Okur and Shawne Williams for Gerald Wallace. We all know what #6 brought.
 
The funny thing is the only great move the guy has made was almost by accident. When he picked up Nurkic, the press conference was all about the value of the pick included in the deal; he definitely did not think that Jusuf was prize. Then there's all of the stuff he does on purpose that has me worried: Parsons, Turner, Crabbe, MyLe, et al.

The Jusuf 'happy accident' bought him some time, but without that deal would there be any great reason for him to still have a job?
 
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