How much will Webster demand?

[VanillaGorilla]

He's not proven he's worth more by playing at a high level for more than a few games at a time - EVER.

... Except now.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Holy Crap 45% from 3??? When did that happen

I noticed Martell was shooting lights out five weeks ago when I posted this thread:

OT: Martell Webster Has Found his Shooting Touch

And he's had some big games since - including 34 points on 7-10 3-pointers against Phoenix recently.

Not only is he 3rd in 3FG%, only .006 behind Korver, but he's also 11th in the league in FT%, tied with LeBron for 5th in the league in TS% at .627 (which is an insanely good TS% for a guard) and 10th in the league in ORtg. He's definitely found his confidence and now that beautiful form on his jumper is finally yielding equally beautiful results. I'm glad he's doing well. He was a good kid while here that struggled with self-confidence and depression. It's nice to see him turning things around.

At this point, he's a bigger, more athletic, slightly better shooting version of Wesley Matthews. Although, Wesley definitely wins big points for being tougher, both mentally and physically.

BNM

 

[Denny Crane]

How much will Sergio demand?

 

[KeepOnRollin]

How much will Sergio demand?

I would take Sergio over Nolan Smith. Not saying much I know...

 

[STOMP]

I like how his game has grown. I think he will get 6-7 mil per year.

I'd laugh at any team who gave him that much... salaries are going down

I'd love to have him back but I think he'll for a place where he can start.

obviously I wouldn't, but my guess is he signs with the Sacramento franchise

STOMP

 

[ehizzy3]

i'd love him as a back up

 

[Boob-No-More]

i'd love him as a back up

With Martell shooting the way he is (I repeat, tied with LeBron for 5th in the league with a TS% of .627, among the league leaders in both 3FG% and FT%), I'd be very happy with 3-wing rotation of Batum, Wes and Martell. Now that we have Maynor (assuming we keep him), I'd take Martell over Jarrett Jack. Plus, Martell is still only 26. So, he will still be around when this team starts getting past the 1st round of the playoffs.

BNM

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I don't think Webster would want to come back (just a hunch)

 

[Natebishop3]

I don't think Webster would want to come back (just a hunch)

I bet he would. Just a hunch.

 

[Boise Blazer]

We are in this weird in between stage where the age and kind of players that we want really dont seem to fit what those players will want in a new team. ie if the player is young, good, up and coming then they either likely will want to start or will be more than we can afford. If we stick to the young and "move the needle" criteria it really starts to limit our choices. I guess a lot that will also depend on how Wes would feel about coming off the bench.

 

[The_Lillard_King]

I bet he would. Just a hunch.

I like your hunch better . . .since you are willing to bet on it.

 

[BBert]

Loathed his game Portland, likewise with Jack, but would consider taking either back if the price was right.

Don't suppose it might have had something to do with a certain McMuffin? Not so much with Jack, but I thought at the time Nate was hurting Martell.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

Don't suppose it might have had something to do with a certain McMuffin? Not so much with Jack, but I thought at the time Nate was hurting Martell.

I agree. Nate had a vision for each player instead of using the talents they had. His vision for Martell was being a defensive stopper and that just is not going to happen.

After we solve our center issue or take advantage of the cap space we have this summer, I would not be opposed to bringing Martell back with the exception we gain after using space. There are other options available that are just as good for what he does though and investing heavily in bringing him back would be a mistake.

 

[mook]

Looking at Bayless (age 24/7 years in league), Webster (26/8), Jack (29/8) and Mills (24/4), I remember how shitty I thought those guys were back in the day on our bench (and sometimes starting.)

And then I look today with frustration at our current bench--Leonard (age 20/Rookie), Claver (24/R), Babbitt (23/3), Freeland (25/R), Smith (24/R), Williams (23/1).

I think we have some solid players in our future with a lot of these guys. Maybe even all of them. The problem is timing.

Our core of Batum/Aldridge/Lillard/Matthews are ready to compete in the playoffs right now, and these guys are all a couple years out. And I don't really know that there's a quick fix. Most of these young guys have little value because they haven't proven anything, so they're hard to trade for decent assets. Ideally you would sit on them for a few years and let them blossom, but every year you do that you're squandering the prime of guys like LMA.

 

[magnifier661]

Don't suppose it might have had something to do with a certain McMuffin? Not so much with Jack, but I thought at the time Nate was hurting Martell.

Well Nate didn't coach jack to dribble off his feet in clutch situations. If he did; then he's pretty amazing at controlling players.

 

[magnifier661]

Looking at Bayless (age 24/7 years in league), Webster (26/8), Jack (29/8) and Mills (24/4), I remember how shitty I thought those guys were back in the day on our bench (and sometimes starting.)

And then I look today with frustration at our current bench--Leonard (age 20/Rookie), Claver (24/R), Babbitt (23/3), Freeland (25/R), Smith (24/R), Williams (23/1).

I think we have some solid players in our future with a lot of these guys. Maybe even all of them. The problem is timing.

Our core of Batum/Aldridge/Lillard/Matthews are ready to compete in the playoffs right now, and these guys are all a couple years out. And I don't really know that there's a quick fix. Most of these young guys have little value because they haven't proven anything, so they're hard to trade for decent assets. Ideally you would sit on them for a few years and let them blossom, but every year you do that you're squandering the prime of guys like LMA.

Claver and Leonard are the two players I feel good about. Barton could be a solid "defensive swarming" type player; but I worry about his control. He's still young and probably has a lot of growing up to do.

I lost all hope for Babbitt. He isn't a player I feel comfortable with. A lot of it has more to do with being on fire then completely faded the next game. It reminds me so much of waiting for outlaw to develop. Even though outlaw eventually helped Roy and his iso game; he was still a bone head and faded one game to the next. I would rather have scrapers like claver and freeland than give Babbitt more chances.

 

[mook]

Yeah, but really Babbitt reminds me a lot of of a young Webster--a guy who should be a world-class shooter but isn't really because there's just this sense of self-doubt and mental fragility.

Meanwhile Claver and Freeland seem more reminiscent of guys like Khryapa and Monia. Hustle do-it-alls with little specialty.

Which one is still in the league?

 

[Natebishop3]

Yeah, but really Babbitt reminds me a lot of of a young Webster--a guy who should be a world-class shooter but isn't really because there's just this sense of self-doubt and mental fragility.

Meanwhile Claver and Freeland seem more reminiscent of guys like Khryapa and Monia. Hustle do-it-alls with little specialty.

Which one is still in the league?

Except Babbitt has zero athleticism..... Webster is actually athletic.

 

[mook]

Except Babbitt has zero athleticism..... Webster is actually athletic.

Definitely true.

 

[BBert]

Well Nate didn't coach jack to dribble off his feet in clutch situations. If he did; then he's pretty amazing at controlling players.

I don't think Nate hurt jack at all. But asking martell to camp out on the three point line and can threes completely out of any kind of rhythm especially considering martells well publicized mental issues was doomed to failure. Nate seemed unable to adapt to his players strengths instead demanding they mold to his design.