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I've always loved San Fancisco - one of the more beautiful cities in our country/world. My wife and I visited there (Mission District Airbnb) for a couple of days as part of a west coast (Yosemite/Sequias/Highway 1/Central Oregon) road trip a few years back. We had such a blast!

It's been sad to see some of the damage going on there these past couple of years - particularly, post-COVID pandemic to now.

I ran across this poignant article. I thought it was an interesting read:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-francisco-became-failed-city/661199/

HOW SAN FRANCISCO BECAME A FAILED CITY
And how it could recover

By Nellie Bowles
Photographs by Austin Leong
 
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I've had fun there, but the people there are fucking dirty. I have no desire to visit there due to the crime and homelessness.
 
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I used to love SF in short stretches...I'd spend 3 days there every 6 weeks playing music and loved North Beach, Chinatown, The Wharf and the ethnic music stores in the Mission...always went to shows at the Palace of Fine Arts and made time for my favorite Vietnamese Restaurant and Italian Restaurants....great food...get some chowder at the Wharf...go to City Lights Book Store and then I'm out of there.....the trick in ANY city is to know where not to go. I lived in SF in 1971 waiting for orders to go to Viet Nam and went to Winterland and the Filmore West every night I could or the Berkely Ampitheater....great memories. It's been a long time...now I go to San Luis Obispo or San Diego to see my grandchildren and haven't stopped in the Bay for a long, long time. I saw Chris Isaak play with his original band Silvertone there many times in a small club in North Beach before he was famous....great band. California has priced me out for tourist dollars...I like to vacation in Oregon since retiring. I never cared for the weather in SF...that's one downside...
 
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ABM said:
I've always loved San Fancisco - one of the more beautiful cities in our country/world. My wife and I visited there (Mission District Airbnb) for a couple of days as part of a west coast (Yosemite/Sequias/Highway 1/Central Oregon) road trip a few years back. We had such a blast!

It's been sad to see some of the damage going on there these past couple of years - particularly, post-COVID pandemic to now.

I ran across this poignant article. I thought it was an interesting read:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-francisco-became-failed-city/661199/

HOW SAN FRANCISCO BECAME A FAILED CITY
And how it could recover

By Nellie Bowles
Photographs by Austin Leong
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What is equally sad is that Seattle is worse
 
Every time I’ve been to San Francisco I can’t get over the stench. Also, I thought Portland had weird ass people but San Fran takes the cake.

Catching a baseball game at Pac Bell park was cool.

I have no desire to ever go back though.
 
riverman said:
I used to love SF in short stretches...I'd spend 3 days there every 6 weeks playing music and loved North Beach, Chinatown, The Wharf and the ethnic music stores in the Mission...always went to shows at the Palace of Fine Arts and made time for my favorite Vietnamese Restaurant and Italian Restaurants....great food...get some chowder at the Wharf...go to City Lights Book Store and then I'm out of there.....the trick in ANY city is to know where not to go. I lived in SF in 1971 waiting for orders to go to Viet Nam and went to Winterland and the Filmore West every night I could or the Berkely Ampitheater....great memories. It's been a long time...now I go to San Luis Obispo or San Diego to see my grandchildren and haven't stopped in the Bay for a long, long time. I saw Chris Isaak play with his original band Silvertone there many times in a small club in North Beach before he was famous....great band. California has priced me out for tourist dollars...I like to vacation in Oregon since retiring. I never cared for the weather in SF...that's one downside...
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I love North Beach, I heard it got hit hard by the pandemic.

This is my spot. http://coffee.caffetrieste.com/

Chinatown there is awesome too. Its so weird seeing Chinese people replacing Latinx persons as Hotel cleaning staff at the hotels out there.
 
andalusian said:
Just for fun, looking at least violent cities (over 300,000 residents) in the USA, SF #180, Portland #197, Nashville #271).

If SF is a failed city, you have to be crazy to live in Nashville.
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I suppose I've overcome some of that in the taxes dept. Besides, as I've stated in here many times before. I moved here for a wonderful woman......and so glad I did!
 
ABM said:
We were there in June, 2018. What a blast we had!!

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Do you realize how ugly you look compared with your wife.. My God man, have the decency to put a bag over your head, preferably one with no breathing holes.
I hope you're laughing your ass off because you've certainly got a lot of that to laugh off.
Anybody reading this has to think I too have a lot laugh off but actually I'm quite svelt with a totally manly figure. You could call me a beast.
 
Lanny said:
Do you realize how ugly you look compared with your wife.. My God man, have the decency to put a bag over your head, preferably one with no breathing holes.
I hope you're laughing your ass off because you've certainly got a lot of that to laugh off.
Anybody reading this has to think I too have a lot laugh off but actually I'm quite svelt with a totally manly figure. You could call me a beast.
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People wonder why I left Bend, OR to move to Nashville. Therein lies your answer.
 
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ABM said:
People wonder why I left Bend, OR to move to Nashville. Therein lies your answer.
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I think you are saying that you were judged too ugly to live in Bend?

barfo
 
A few months ago New York times ran an interactive feature, what city should you live in? They had a long list of attributes and readers were asked to check the ones important to them. I selected LGBTQ rights, diversity, good food, access to arts, eco friendly, mild climate and trees. My #1 city, San Francisco. Portland and Seattle both in top five.
 
Along Market Street there definitely are some rough spots. But with the team, these past 3 seasons or so, we have had a TON of days off there. Last thanksgiving, we were there for 5 nights. ABSOLUTELY love that city. So much culture. Great restaurants, views. All big cities have shitty parts. With my daughter just committing to USF, she is so excited. The area up on the hill where the school is, is amazing. Great shops, neighborhoods.
 
THE HCP said:
Along Market Street there definitely are some rough spots. But with the team, these past 3 seasons or so, we have had a TON of days off there. Last thanksgiving, we were there for 5 nights. ABSOLUTELY love that city. So much culture. Great restaurants, views. All big cities have shitty parts. With my daughter just committing to USF, she is so excited. The area up on the hill where the school is, is amazing. Great shops, neighborhoods.
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The Marina is the best hood in SF
 
I used to live there, and afterward, pre-Covid, went there for business a few times a year. It's never been a clean city, but it sure is a great city. Food, sights, to-do . . . tough to beat.

And truly, every city has been hurt hard by the pandemic, not just SF. Look at Portland, NY, Seattle, etc.
 
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