Howard a possibility still?

[BonesJones]

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Hmmm.

Sooo basically if we sign Parsons to the max we'll have apx. $3M in cap space. Meyers cap hold counts as $7M. That makes it so we could offer him $10M to stay under the cap.

If Dwight wants $20M, we'd only have to clear $5M in cap space. That means that we could trade Plumlee and Vonleh for picks (leaving us with 11 players, but when you're signing a 12th then there's no roster spot holds)

So we could keep Harkless, Davis, and Aminu while working out a double sign and trade around Meyers and Howard.

 

[Natebishop3]

Hmmm.

Sooo basically if we sign Parsons to the max we'll have apx. $3M in cap space. Meyers cap hold counts as $7M. That makes it so we could offer him $10M to stay under the cap.

If Dwight wants $20M, we'd only have to clear $5M in cap space. That means that we could trade Plumlee and Vonleh for picks (leaving us with 11 players, but when you're signing a 12th then there's no roster spot holds)

So we could keep Harkless, Davis, and Aminu while working out a double sign and trade around Meyers and Howard.

Your math is hurting my head. Meyers isn't signing for 10 million after Timofey fucking Mozgov got 64 million from the Lakers. It's just not happening man. He's going to get 15-17 million per year, which is insane.

 

[Denny Crane]

Hmmm.

Sooo basically if we sign Parsons to the max we'll have apx. $3M in cap space. Meyers cap hold counts as $7M. That makes it so we could offer him $10M to stay under the cap.

If Dwight wants $20M, we'd only have to clear $5M in cap space. That means that we could trade Plumlee and Vonleh for picks (leaving us with 11 players, but when you're signing a 12th then there's no roster spot holds)

So we could keep Harkless, Davis, and Aminu while working out a double sign and trade around Meyers and Howard.

I don't think that makes sense.

More like we get to $24M under the cap easy.

Then we sign and trade Leonard at $17M for Howard, leaving us $7M under the cap or $7M toward signing Parsons.

It's effectively a wash since just renouncing Leonard gets us $7M in cap space, too.

There's no loopholes in the CBA.

 

[BonesJones]

Hmmm.

Sooo basically if we sign Parsons to the max we'll have apx. $3M in cap space. Meyers cap hold counts as $7M. That makes it so we could offer him $10M to stay under the cap.

If Dwight wants $20M, we'd only have to clear $5M in cap space. That means that we could trade Plumlee and Vonleh for picks (leaving us with 11 players, but when you're signing a 12th then there's no roster spot holds)

So we could keep Harkless, Davis, and Aminu while working out a double sign and trade around Meyers and Howard.

Plus, we'd still have the cap space exception to sign a guy like Darrell Arthur. That would leave us with a lineup of:

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Crabbe
Parsons / Harkless
Aminu / Arthur
Howard / Davis

That would be an amazing squad.

 

[BlazerCaravan]

Plus, we'd still have the cap space exception to sign a guy like Darrell Arthur. That would leave us with a lineup of:

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Crabbe
Parsons / Harkless
Aminu / Arthur
Howard / Davis

That would be an amazing squad.

CJ/Crabbe/Hark/Arthur/Davis could start and win us 32 games. That's a good sign.

 

[Natebishop3]

Plus, we'd still have the cap space exception to sign a guy like Darrell Arthur. That would leave us with a lineup of:

Lillard / McCollum
McCollum / Crabbe
Parsons / Harkless
Aminu / Arthur
Howard / Davis

That would be an amazing squad.

So amazing that it won't happen because your math is off.

 

[Orion Bailey]

So, you're bringing Howard in for $10M? Because that's all the cap space that's left after signing Parsons to a max if you keep Harkless, Crabbe, Aminu, and Davis.

I don't think you're following... To get Howard you have to renounce Harkless. You have to renounce Leonard. You have to trade someone like Aminu or Davis.

Isnt that only dependent upon what they are willing to sign for?

If Parsons takes $85 instead of $96 and Howard takes $20 instead of $24 and Hark signs a smaller contract to be assured being part of a winning team?

IM following, im just hoping a few of these guys take a few mill less each to make it all work and still keep the depth that will make us a contender next year.
I have to believe if Parsons and Howard take less than max, then other guys might jump on the bandwagon as well?

Am I all alone on fantasy island or is Toto at least gonna join me?

 

[BonesJones]

I don't think that makes sense.

More like we get to $24M under the cap easy.

Then we sign and trade Leonard at $17M for Howard, leaving us $7M under the cap or $7M toward signing Parsons.

It's effectively a wash since just renouncing Leonard gets us $7M in cap space, too.

There's no loopholes in the CBA.

You didn't understand at all.

If BYC doesn't apply if the player your sending out is signed to a number that keeps you under the salary cap.

Therefore, if we sign Parsons and have $3M in cap remaining, then we could sign Leonard to a $10M contract to stay under the cap, because the $3M in cap space plus his cap hold equals $10.7M.

However, his salary has to be course enough to Dwights, so we'd still have to clear some cap space, but it'd only be $5M or $6M.

 

[Natebishop3]

Isnt that only dependent upon what they are willing to sign for?

If Parsons takes $85 instead of $96 and Howard takes $20 instead of $24 and Hark signs a smaller contract to be assured being part of a winning team?

IM following, im just hoping a few of these guys take a few mill less each to make it all work and still keep the depth that will make us a contender next year.
I have to believe if Parsons and Howard take less than max, then other guys might jump on the bandwagon as well?

Am I all alone on fantasy island or is Toto at least gonna join me?

Parsons isn't going to take 11 million less than what we offered. Harkless isn't going to take less. None of these guys take less. They want as much as they can get.

 

[BonesJones]

So amazing that it won't happen because your math is off.

Read my last post and tell me where exactly my math is off.

 

[Natebishop3]

You guys and your crazy fucking salary ideas.... I'm just shaking my head over here.

 

[Natebishop3]

Read my last post and tell me where exactly my math is off.

Meyers isn't going to take ten million!!!! Come on man.

 

[Denny Crane]

You didn't understand at all.

If BYC doesn't apply if the player your sending out is signed to a number that keeps you under the salary cap.

Therefore, if we sign Parsons and have $3M in cap remaining, then we could sign Leonard to a $10M contract to stay under the cap, because the $3M in cap space plus his cap hold equals $10.7M.

However, his salary has to be course enough to Dwights, so we'd still have to clear some cap space, but it'd only be $5M or $6M.

BYC 1/2 salary would only apply to the ROCKETS if they're over the cap.

If we sign Parsons, we don't have to renounce Leonard. We can sign him to whatever he's willing to accept, even going over the cap to do so.

 

[BonesJones]

Meyers isn't going to take ten million!!!! Come on man.

Fucking read the thing.... I didn't say he'd sign for $10M. That was a hypothetical example. He'd sign for $16M. That $6M is what we'd have to clear.

You're sitting here telling me I'm wrong when it's just that you have no clue in regards to the CORRECT math I did.

 

[selloutking]

Isnt that only dependent upon what they are willing to sign for?

If Parsons takes $85 instead of $96 and Howard takes $20 instead of $24 and Hark signs a smaller contract to be assured being part of a winning team?

IM following, im just hoping a few of these guys take a few mill less each to make it all work and still keep the depth that will make us a contender next year.
I have to believe if Parsons and Howard take less than max, then other guys might jump on the bandwagon as well?

Am I all alone on fantasy island or is Toto at least gonna join me?

that depends
do you miss the rains down in Africa?

 

[BonesJones]

BYC 1/2 salary would only apply to the ROCKETS if they're over the cap.

If we sign Parsons, we don't have to renounce Leonard. We can sign him to whatever he's willing to accept, even going over the cap to do so.

Well hopefully they wouldn't be over the cap.

 

[Natebishop3]

Fucking read the thing.... I didn't say $10M.

You're sitting here telling me I'm wrong when it's just that you have no clue in regards to the CORRECT math I did.

The fuck you didn't....

then we could sign Leonard to a $10M contract to stay under the cap,

 

[BonesJones]

The fuck you didn't....

That was a hypothetical example. He'd sign for $16M. That $6M is what we'd have to clear.

I explained it right after that...

 

[Denny Crane]

Well hopefully they wouldn't be over the cap.

They won't be, but the math is still a wash.

S&T him for $10M, keeping us a shade under the cap, right?

$10M minus his cap hold of $7M leaves $3M. Exactly the same as if you renounced him.

 

[Natebishop3]

That was a hypothetical example. He'd sign for $16M. That $6M is what we'd have to clear.

I explained it right after that...

A hypothetical example that I said wouldn't happen.

 

[BonesJones]

They won't be, but the math is still a wash.

S&T him for $10M, keeping us a shade under the cap, right?

$10M minus his cap hold of $7M leaves $3M. Exactly the same as if you renounced him.

No, clear $6M first and sign Meyers for $16M.

If we have $16M in cap space, we could sign Meyers for $16M, then recieve back $20M via trade. Therefore, we could pay Howard $20M by only having $16M in cap space by trading away Leonard.

 

[Denny Crane]

No, clear $6M first and sign Meyers for $16M.

If we have $16M in cap space, we could sign Meyers for $16M, then recieve back $20M via trade. Therefore, we could pay Howard $20M by only having $16M in call space by trading away Leonard.

Howard is going to get $24M.

 

[Pinwheel1]

I heard "near-max" for Parsons. I assume that means he'd take a little less to get Dwight. $20M seems right.

As an organization that has a great culture, a great fit for him, and had just signed his friend Parsons, I think we could nab Dwight for $18M by also giving him a 4 year contract with a player option after 3 years,

I don't think that player option does much for him at his age. And i don't think he would take 18 unless it went up each year. Somehow we need to get to 24 for Dwight and 20 for Parsons.

 

[Denny Crane]

I don't think that player option does much for him at his age. And i don't think he would take 18 unless it went up each year. Somehow we need to get to 24 for Dwight and 20 for Parsons.

$24M for each. I don't see how insulting one or both is going to get them to sign here.

 

[BonesJones]

A hypothetical example that I said wouldn't happen.

Duh, that's why it's hypothetical. I was showing how the math worked. You just saw $10M and stated saying it wouldn't happen. Duh, of course it wouldn't.

 

[BonesJones]

$24M for each. I don't see how insulting one or both is going to get them to sign here.

$24M is over Parsons max.

 

[Natebishop3]

No, clear $6M first and sign Meyers for $16M.

Your math doesn't work because as soon as you sign Meyers, you're back above the salary cap and there's no way you can match Dwight's money.

 

[BonesJones]

Howard is going to get $24M.

LOL

 

[Natebishop3]

Let me break this down for you -

You remove Cliff, Montero, Hendo, Kaman, and Roberts. That gets us to $25,337,465.00.

Parsons max is around 22 million. That leaves 3.3 million in space. You can't just clear six million and then sign Meyers. Meyers will eat up the cap space, and we can't match 20+ million in salary. The only way to do it is to release our free agents and clear 7 million in cap.

 

[Sinobas]

This moves my needle.

But how?

Up?