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Ripcity4life77 said:
realize Hulk Hogan had his issues
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It’s not possible to be as you put it “ racist at times”. That just makes you a racist “all the time” you could replace the word racist with rapist and it would be equally absurd to water that down
 
Trailblazers76 said:
What a bunch of scumbags in this thread. You guys don't know anything about how supposedly awful he was. Just cancel culture jerks. All the wrestlers have been saying what a good guy he was. Ric Flair was in tears. I hope you all never do anything wrong in your life you saints.

As the product of the 80's, he was a hero when I was a kid. RIP brother!
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He literally said those things.

Racist people should be cancelled.

You don't think racist people should be cancelled?
 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
I didn’t realize until this afternoon what a douche bag he was. I was completely unaware of his extremely racist comments etc.
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I think a lot of people didn't. Those of us who either stayed as wrestling fans (off and on) knew, but I suspect most people either only knew him from his WWF days when they were kids, or his NWO days when they were kids (usually two different groups of ages).

There's a slight chance someone who knew he was racist, might actually have a better grasp on what kind of person he was vs someone who actually uses the phrase "cancel culture"unironically.
 
The guy was a huge pop culture icon for a generation of people..big enough to be an action figure, make movies and sell a gazillion Halloween costumes. I didn't know the dark side of him until his fame was pretty much gone. I've met some really cool people from wrestling culture and one was a neighbor for 10 years in the Sierras...some great dudes that for the most part are actually friends...a real bro culture for sports. I can see how it shocks people who don't know to see fangs and warts come out in their heroes.
 
There are hours upon hours of interviews of other wrestlers talking about how he wasn't great.

Macho Man even wrote a diss rap song about the guy.

 
BoBoBREWSKI said:
WTF was that. :biglaugh: So bad it’s hilarious
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Macho had some real heat against Hulk. I've read he blamed him for ruining his marriage. It is really sad because his ex got with Lex Luger and they became addicts and she died.
 
crandc said:
Charlie Kirk mourned death of Hogan in a world that is so "toxically feminine".
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As I sit here watching K-Pop Demon Hunters with both of my sons whomst are obsessed with it right now, I have to wonder if conservatives aren’t right (for the wrong reasons) in that Masculinity is always about to disappear. Not because of femininity forcing the change, but because Masculinity isn’t actually natural at all. Certainly the hyper masculinity of wrasslin or MAGA is artificial, but I think the natural man is a lot softer than a Civilized Man who is taught the traditions of Masculinity. I’m sure there’s a bunch of books about this and I’m very very late to this particular party but it’s just getting so obvious to me that, absent a Masculine man to impart Masculinity to the next generation, boys will just grow up to be chill humans. The horror!
 
Everything Beagle said:
As I sit here watching K-Pop Demon Hunters with both of my sons whomst are obsessed with it right now, I have to wonder if conservatives aren’t right (for the wrong reasons) in that Masculinity is always about to disappear. Not because of femininity forcing the change, but because Masculinity isn’t actually natural at all. Certainly the hyper masculinity of wrasslin or MAGA is artificial, but I think the natural man is a lot softer than a Civilized Man who is taught the traditions of Masculinity. I’m sure there’s a bunch of books about this and I’m very very late to this particular party but it’s just getting so obvious to me that, absent a Masculine man to impart Masculinity to the next generation, boys will just grow up to be chill humans. The horror!
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I have no doubt most of my worst characteristics came from macho men who influenced me as I grew.

But then, some of my best traits came from them as well...
 
Phatguysrule said:
I have no doubt most of my worst characteristics came from macho men who influenced me as I grew.

But then, some of my best traits came from them as well...
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My dad showed me Revenge of the Nerds and Predator and Aliens and Terminator at like 10 years old to show me how men are supposed to act. All I got out of it was a huge crush on Vasquez.

My dad taught me Masculinity; it just didn’t stick.
 
Everything Beagle said:
My dad showed me Revenge of the Nerds and Predator and Aliens and Terminator at like 10 years old to show me how men are supposed to act. All I got out of it was a huge crush on Vasquez.

My dad taught me Masculinity; it just didn’t stick.
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Lol. Yeah, I didn't get any of my good traits from those movies. Loved the movies though...
 
Everything Beagle said:
My dad showed me Revenge of the Nerds and Predator and Aliens and Terminator at like 10 years old to show me how men are supposed to act. All I got out of it was a huge crush on Vasquez.

My dad taught me Masculinity; it just didn’t stick.
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My dad was a blue collar guy who taught me to shoot guns, fish, run a trap line, work on a farm, play cards, drink whiskey...but I can't think of a single example of anything I would consider toxic masculinity associated with any of it. It was just stuff he grew up doing. Then again, he was a union man and a Democrat. He lived in a town that literally had a John Birch meeting hall. He avoided all of that crap, and I'm certain he would have seen right through Trump. I guess maybe I'm lucky.

:cheers:
 
BBert said:
My dad was a blue collar guy who taught me to shoot guns, fish, run a trap line, work on a farm, play cards, drink whiskey...but I can't think of a single example of anything I would consider toxic masculinity associated with any of it. It was just stuff he grew up doing. Then again, he was a union man and a Democrat. He lived in a town that literally had a John Birch meeting hall. He avoided all of that crap, and I'm certain he would have seen right through Trump. I guess maybe I'm lucky.

:cheers:
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I had a similar upbringing, minus the farming, hunting, etc.

But my dad, in his own way, was about fairness, equality, hard work and respect.

Never once said the words "I love you" to me or my siblings, but also didn't allow us to make fun of others for their different life experiences.

Not that he was perfect, not by any stretch.

He would have hated Trump (he was a dyed in the wool Democrat and union man), as he hated when people cheated, lied and took advantage of people's situations and pitted each other against each other.
 
Shortlist of Hogan's relentless lies...

 
speeds said:
Shortlist of Hogan's relentless lies...

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I think what some people don't get is, lying isn't the worst thing in the world. Its lying to constantly make yourself out to be a better person, or easily disprovable lies, that is the problem.

Lying that you didn't speed is forgivable. Lying that you met a kid who was dying of cancer and promised to "body slam" a wrestler and win a title (when the matches are scripted), is another. Especially when the match he went on to talk about several times did not take place at the PPV, nor was he even touring with the company at the time.

Like, that's cheesetastic.
 
Strenuus said:
He literally said those things.

Racist people should be cancelled.

You don't think racist people should be cancelled?
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There's more than cancellation going on here, it's wickedness. Dancing on a man's grave the moment he dies because he said the N word a decade ago.

I saw a black wrestler talk about how Hogan saved his job once and talk about how he didn't think he was racist. Or another one talk about how Hogan used to visit children's hospitals to bring some enjoyment to sick kids. I could keep going but it's pointless because the mob knows better than his contemporaries anyway.

People say stupid stuff all the time. Most just don't have people secretly recording their private conversations and then use them to cash in over a decade later. But whatever I'm not that invested. I just thought I'd show some kindness towards a man that gave me some enjoyment as a kid.
 
Trailblazers76 said:
There's more than cancellation going on here, it's wickedness. Dancing on a man's grave the moment he dies because he said the N word a decade ago.

I saw a black wrestler talk about how Hogan saved his job once and talk about how he didn't think he was racist. Or another one talk about how Hogan used to visit children's hospitals to bring some enjoyment to sick kids. I could keep going but it's pointless because the mob knows better than his contemporaries anyway.

People say stupid stuff all the time. Most just don't have people secretly recording their private conversations and then use them to cash in over a decade later. But whatever I'm not that invested. I just thought I'd show some kindness towards a man that gave me some enjoyment as a kid.
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He didn't change his ways.

I don't know why you're surprised people are glad a racist clown is gone.
 
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