Hunter: "Maybe we can start our own league"

[BlazerCaravan]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-pm-hunter-discusses-forming-league/

I figured it would be heading this way, even if this is a feint.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

I'd be terrified if I were a player knowing that Billy Hunter is a complete idiot.

It's just an empty threat.

 

[THE HCP]

what a joke!

 

[Mediocre Man]

Hahaha

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I'd rather see a different group of money men restart up the old ABA.

New Jersey

Anaheim

Pittsburgh

Vegas

Seattle

San Diego

 

[Draco]

I don't think its feasible to start a new league with the same blueprint as the NBA. But they could do something like the ultimate fighter reality show on Spike that is large reason the UFC has become so popular. The NBPA could market something outside the box with success. Heck I'd tune it to a reality show if it only showed the NBPA meetings. If they added some basketball tournament with a twist that cuts Lebron from his team survival style I bet many people would watch.

 

[THE HCP]

Remember the basketball on trampolines show! That was so dope!

 

[THE HCP]

[video=youtube;2ouXw328WYI]

 

[julius]

Go ahead and try it. First you'll need a lot of capital to start up the venture.

Then you'll need places to play, and all the money that it takes to have that. ooh, and paying for food, doctors, insurance, flying, where you're staying, selling TV time, radio time, marketing...

Go right ahead and give it a try.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Remember the basketball on trampolines show! That was so dope!

Remember it? It led to the greatest Darius Miles' quote of all time!

[video=youtube;6m_G0tq2MHg]

I still have no idea what he's saying but it's pure gold!

 

[jlprk]

Go ahead and try it. First you'll need a lot of capital to start up the venture.

Then you'll need places to play, and all the money that it takes to have that. ooh, and paying for food, doctors, insurance, flying, where you're staying, selling TV time, radio time, marketing...

Go right ahead and give it a try.

The D-League has all that and teams don't cost much. It can all be done cheaply and then if they get one national TV contract, voila, the big money is back, but not as much.

 

[julius]

The D-League has all that and teams don't cost much. It can all be done cheaply and then if they get one national TV contract, voila, the big money is back, but not as much.

The D league has that because of the NBA paying it's way.

If the (former) NBA players want to play in high school gyms, in front of 900 people and have no TV or radio, have at it.

 

[BigVolcano]

The D-League has all that and teams don't cost much. It can all be done cheaply and then if they get one national TV contract, voila, the big money is back, but not as much.

How long would it take for this new league to establish itself? 10 years? 20 years? I doubt the players will be willing to wait that long.

If this happens, NBA will reopen its doors. The average to good players will choose to play in a league that can pay them decent money. Incoming college players dream of playing in the NBA not Billy Hunter's Fantasy League so they will also choose the NBA. This is such an empty threat.

 

[THE HCP]

Whatever you think about Simmons aside, this book is amazing! It does an great job of breaking down how the league got started.



http://www.amazon.com/Book-Basketball-NBA-According-Sports/dp/034551176X

 

[jlprk]

The D league has that because of the NBA paying it's way.

If the (former) NBA players want to play in high school gyms, in front of 900 people and have no TV or radio, have at it.

The subsidy from the NBA isn't so enormous. A few hundred thousand per team.

The first year will be something more than 900. The second year, maybe average 5000. The third year, maybe 8000. Ever started a business?

 

[jlprk]

How long would it take for this new league to establish itself? 10 years? 20 years? I doubt the players will be willing to wait that long.

If this happens, NBA will reopen its doors. The average to good players will choose to play in a league that can pay them decent money.

If not much time has passed with no basketball, then the same owners can re-create the same financial picture. But if a couple years have passed and media and sponsorship contracts have expired, owners will find the offers less now. The more time that passes, the more the league will be re-created from scratch.

So the big money will be less big, the more the years pass. If the lockout goes on say, 2 seasons, then the financial beginning points of a new separate league and the old league wouldn't be all that far apart.

 

[BigVolcano]

The subsidy from the NBA isn't so enormous. A few hundred thousand per team.

The first year will be something more than 900. The second year, maybe average 5000. The third year, maybe 8000. Ever started a business?

Again, can players go this long without NBA money?

 

[jlprk]

We shall see. Also, can the owners go without money for long? From the OP article:

The biggest risk for the NBA during this lockout is that the companies and sponsors involved with the league will learn they don’t need professional basketball to survive. Coca-Cola could find other avenues to sell Sprite, Gatorade could focus of football and baseball, and so on…The latest example is Foot Locker, which, as CNBC’s Darren Rovell pointed out on Twitter, isn’t missing the NBA at all. “Lack of NBA doesn’t hurt Foot Locker earnings. Most exposure, company says, is in licensed apparel. NBA-related biz is 6% of overall biz.” Don’t take American businesses for granted, because they’re learning to live without this league more and more each day.

 

[julius]

The subsidy from the NBA isn't so enormous. A few hundred thousand per team.

The first year will be something more than 900. The second year, maybe average 5000. The third year, maybe 8000. Ever started a business?

the flaw in your theory is that the NBA owns the NBDL (in as much as they broadcast games, have contractual agreements with NBAtv to show games, etc).

It's not just as easy as they think it is.

 

[julius]

We shall see. Also, can the owners go without money for long? From the OP article:

The owners pockets are much much much MUUUUUCH deeper, and unlike the NBA players, the vast majority of their income isn't depending on the NBA.

 

[BigVolcano]

The owners pockets are much much much MUUUUUCH deeper, and unlike the NBA players, the vast majority of their income isn't depending on the NBA.

Exactly. Obviously Lebron and co still have endorsement money and such, but the average players and minimum vets (the majority) have no where close to the resources that owners have.

 

[jlprk]

I'm thinking of a league with new owners, and not the players owning it. I think Hunter meant that when he said, maybe "we" can start a new league.

 

[gatorpops]

Hey Billy, I know where there are thirty rich owners and thirty arenas in thirty major cities right here in the good ol USA. Great way to start over, don't ya think?

 

[Pinwheel1]

I'm thinking of a league with new owners, and not the players owning it. I think Hunter meant that when he said, maybe "we" can start a new league.

I understand there is not much to talk about with no actual basketball, but this conversation is way out there in fantasy land.

 

[jlprk]

Congratulations upon your entrance to the universe of sports fandom!

As of this moment, commence being a dreamer!

 

[SheedSoNasty]

This would just prove that it truly is more about pride than it is money. The players would be losing a lot of dough.

 

[jlprk]

So would the owners. Why are you pro-owners conscious of negative consequences only for the players?

 

[Ed O]

So would the owners. Why are you pro-owners conscious of negative consequences only for the players?

The owners lost hundreds of millions of dollars last year when the league was operating... they already HAVE negative consequences.

The players, on the other hand, are used to making money. When they don't do so it will logically be a bigger blow to them.

Ed O.

 

[Charcoal Filtered]

HCP, been recommending the Simmons book as well. Love it!

Good luck to Hunter starting a new league that will compensate players better than the NBA. No way they start 30 franchises with any sort of fan following overnight. He should note that while the Timbers just announced they sold out of the 14k season seats they alotted, the entire team payroll is less than the average of one NBA player.

What other business has he launched?

 

[BBert]

Hilarious. I'm just speechless at the absurdity, the ignorance and the delusion necessary for the players to think they can just show up in a gym, play basketball, and get paid, let alone do better than what the NBA has offered them. These morons would lose every dime they have and be washed up has-beens, just in time for the entire venture to go bankrupt. That is, if they could even get that kind of organizational complexity off the ground. Hilarious.