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SlyPokerDog said:
Dolly Parton Donating $1 Million to Helene Flood Response
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KNOXVILLE, Tenn. (WATE) — East Tennessee’s own Dolly Parton partnered with several Sevier County attractions and Walmart to make a significant donation to flood relief at an event Friday.

The event took place at the Walmart in Newport, Tennessee. Parton announced she was making a $1 million donation to the Mountain Ways Foundation, a nonprofit dedicated to providing immediate assistance to Hurricane Helene flood victims. On top of that, Parton’s East Tennessee businesses, Dollywood Parks & Resorts, Dolly Parton’s Stampede, and Pirates Voyage Dinner & Show, and the Dollywood Foundation, matched her donation, bringing the total contributions made to Mountain Ways $2 million.

“We wish that we were all together for another reason, but we all have seen the devastation. I mean, who knew in our little part of the country here where I was born, raised just right down the road, that we would have this kind of devastation? And I look around and I think ‘These are my mountains, these are my valleys’,” Parton said. “‘These are my people and this is my home.’ And I just want all of you to know that, like Eugene was saying, remember when we had the fires, everybody pitched in, tried to do everything that they could, and so I really think that this is a time for me to step up again. For all of us to step up and do what we can.”
 
We're getting two narratives. One is that FEMA and government responders are doing everything they can to rescue people and bring in supplies. The other is about downed helicopters, pilots without marching orders, FEMA/FAA actually playing a role in obstructing private citizens from bringing in aide, that all of the rescue efforts in the really hard to access places has been private.

The former comes from government officials, the latter from people on the ground. I don't know what's what, but I'd expect a rescue/relief effort to include a constant rotation of choppers in the mountains, dropping off supplies, evacuating the injured. And all I'm seeing is private drones and choppers.

Elon Musk and Pete Buttiwhatever had an interesting exchange over X yesterday, where Musk apparently forced his hand to allow rescue choppers. An admission that the FAA was banning them? We had private citizens flying in insulin via drones, and he complained about the drones.

I get it, that you might not want a bunch of private traffic interfering with your activities, but what about when your activities are non-existent? Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me.
 
beast blazer said:
We're getting two narratives. One is that FEMA and government responders are doing everything they can to rescue people and bring in supplies. The other is about downed helicopters, pilots without marching orders, FEMA/FAA actually playing a role in obstructing private citizens from bringing in aide, that all of the rescue efforts in the really hard to access places has been private.

The former comes from government officials, the latter from people on the ground. I don't know what's what, but I'd expect a rescue/relief effort to include a constant rotation of choppers in the mountains, dropping off supplies, evacuating the injured. And all I'm seeing is private drones and choppers.

Elon Musk and Pete Buttiwhatever had an interesting exchange over X yesterday, where Musk apparently forced his hand to allow rescue choppers. An admission that the FAA was banning them? We had private citizens flying in insulin via drones, and he complained about the drones.

I get it, that you might not want a bunch of private traffic interfering with your activities, but what about when your activities are non-existent? Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense to me.
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Same bullshit stories were being told when we were having the fires here.

The local people who were doing what they could in an emergency capacity were pissed off that they got relieved when the authorities showed up. The locals wanted to do it the way they wanted to do it but the authorities have a way that they do things.

So the locals get all pissed off and talk about how the feds don't know what they're doing and it's all stupid and the authorities are screwing everything up. But the reality is that they just wanted to be in charge.
 
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theprunetang said:
Yeah, I keep myself apprised on this shit. Haha. Hurricane Milton does NOT look good for the Tampa area at all. Like, this could be very bad.
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It's a 1 right now, but it could gain more strength as it heads across the warm gulf.

Going to steamroll right over Florida on Tuesday.
 
Phatguysrule said:
Same bullshit stories were being told when we were having the fires here.

The local people who were doing what they could in an emergency capacity were pissed off that they got relieved when the authorities showed up. The locals wanted to do it the way they wanted to do it but the authorities have a way that they do things.

So the locals get all pissed off and talk about how the feds don't know what they're doing and it's all stupid and the authorities are screwing everything up. But the reality is that they just wanted to be in charge.
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Authorities taking over a disaster scene in order to run the operation is a totally different scenario. Once an ambulance arrives at the scene the bystanders should step aside. The scenario here is very little to no public assistance reaching those most in need. To a degree that seems far beneath their capability.
 
beast blazer said:
Authorities taking over a disaster scene in order to run the operation is a totally different scenario. Once an ambulance arrives at the scene the bystanders should step aside. The scenario here is very little to no public assistance reaching those most in need. To a degree that seems far beneath their capability.
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I would agree if that were actually happening. But I'm not sure that's the case.
 
beast blazer said:
Authorities taking over a disaster scene in order to run the operation is a totally different scenario. Once an ambulance arrives at the scene the bystanders should step aside. The scenario here is very little to no public assistance reaching those most in need. To a degree that seems far beneath their capability.
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Sounds like you should go volunteer. Start a GoFundMe for your travel expenses and I'll chip in $20.
 
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I transcribed her word salad. These are the types of morons who are running our government. Rather than flying supplies in to those communities, they sit around on zoom calls and spew this nonsense. What does this even mean? Shift away from "utilitarianism"? Sure, how about help the communities that need it most....the ones whose roads are cut off and have no access to food/water/power. How about that?

"We're seeing a shift we're seeing is a shift in emergency management from utilitarian principles where everything's designed for the greatest good for the greatest amount of people, to disaster equity.
But we have to do more, and so this topic is intersecting, I think, with a number of other topics where we have to look at policies and understand to what extent they have disadvantaged communities that had less assets. Communities that had pre-existing vulnerabilities in accessing disaster related recovery supports."
- Maggie Jarry, Senior Emergency Management Specialist - DHS.
 
As someone who lives in the path of a lot of these hurricanes, I really appreciate it when people fill up helpful discussion threads about the hurricanes with political conspiracy garbage. Go spew misinformation on X or something.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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what? Hurricane hunters??? Wtf is there to hunt? The news broadcast that finds them hundreds of miles off shore and tracks their every movement?
Does she mean when they hit land sometimes 50 plus miles wide?
Who is hunting hurricanes? Pretty sure she is mixing up tornadoes and hurricanes…:banghead2:
 
SharpeScooterShooter said:
what? Hurricane hunters??? Wtf is there to hunt? The news broadcast that finds them hundreds of miles off shore and tracks their every movement?
Does she mean when they hit land sometimes 50 plus miles wide?
Who is hunting hurricanes? Pretty sure she is mixing up tornadoes and hurricanes…:banghead2:
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Probably talking about NOAA and other organizations that send flights into the hurricanes to gather data. These flights provide precious data that helps to plan preparations, evacuations, expectations, strength, path, etc. They are dangerous flights that save lives and the men and women who partake are brave as fuck.
 
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