I am concerned

[Natebishop3]

Against Oregon, Foles was held to his lowest QB rating and completion % since Nov of 2010. We hear about how good Stanford's defense is...Foles completed 73% of his passes against Stanford and 59% vs Oregon and had more yards per completion vs Stanford. Additionally, there were some 'catchable' balls vs Stanford that didn't end in completions.

Oregon's secondary did a nice job.

Orrrrrr his receivers just weren't on that day. It's not Foles fault if his receivers are dropping perfect passes.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

The D line is to small to play against the top 3 SEC schools or the top 2 Big 12 schools and win. I'd also throw the Badgers and Nebraska into that mix. If The O wants to get to that next level and win a national championship the #1 need is size on both sides of the line! LSU showed that a very average offense that they had with two huge lines took our Ducks right out of the game. Bama and the Sooners are of that same mold.

 

[Wheels]

The D line is to small to play against the top 3 SEC schools or the top 2 Big 12 schools and win. I'd also throw the Badgers and Nebraska into that mix. If The O wants to get to that next level and win a national championship the #1 need is size on both sides of the line! LSU showed that a very average offense that they had with two huge lines took our Ducks right out of the game. Bama and the Sooners are of that same mold.

Could not disagree more. IMO in our last 4 losses the only loss I can put on the Defense would probably be Stanford. Our Defense kept us in the National Title Game. Our Defense was the only reason we even somehow were within 20 points of BSU without a first down for a whole half. And the D did just fine considering how many short fields they were given vs LSU. The lack of Size (our DT's are pretty large by the way) is made up for with different blitzes, and stunts. Bigger slower D-lineman would have a hard time with that. So that would require a new scheme, and/or D-Coordinator... but that is a different discussion altogether

 

[Targus]

It's already been established that the number of dropped passes was a minimal percentage of overall passes thrown. Oregon had a similar situation with dropped passes vs LSU. It can be caused by a lot of different factors including due to a defense doing some things right - disrupting timing, rushing throws, etc. No one has even mentioned that a few of the throws were rushed and the WR was still running route and not looking for the ball. Clearly, timing and defense were doing their job.

As the announcer stated, at lease four of the muffed passes were passes that Foles hits 99 out of 100 times with his WR in practice. Timing...

If I understand correctly, it's been claimed 40% of passes were wide open and if it were not for dropped passes, UA would have at least kept it close.
There are no factual basis for this, however, I do respect your opinion. I certainly disagree, because I not only saw something else develop on the field, I read reports from Kelly and media that would disagree with your theory.

Stats and the end score show Oregon secondary performed their role. Does it make more sense to you if I say "Arizona's completion %" instead of Foles?

My gosh......

 

[BLAZER PROPHET]

Against Oregon, Foles was held to his lowest QB rating and completion % since Nov of 2010. We hear about how good Stanford's defense is...Foles completed 73% of his passes against Stanford and 59% vs Oregon and had more yards per completion vs Stanford. Additionally, there were some 'catchable' balls vs Stanford that didn't end in completions.

Oregon's secondary did a nice job.

Careful, you're making me a believer.

 

[Targus]

LOL, it's all good either way.

I respect people's opinions and enjoy attempting to communicate my madness. Sports banter/chatter is good stuff!

 

[Natebishop3]

Could not disagree more. IMO in our last 4 losses the only loss I can put on the Defense would probably be Stanford. Our Defense kept us in the National Title Game. Our Defense was the only reason we even somehow were within 20 points of BSU without a first down for a whole half. And the D did just fine considering how many short fields they were given vs LSU. The lack of Size (our DT's are pretty large by the way) is made up for with different blitzes, and stunts. Bigger slower D-lineman would have a hard time with that. So that would require a new scheme, and/or D-Coordinator... but that is a different discussion altogether

Hush Wheels and stop acting like you actually watch the games. We all know you don't because you never participate in the game threads, which is the only actual proof that people watch Duck games.... which means that only BP and I are allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Targus]

I don't get no opinion? Shite. I'm in trouble.

 

[Wheels]

Hush Wheels and stop acting like you actually watch the games. We all know you don't because you never participate in the game threads, which is the only actual proof that people watch Duck games.... which means that only BP and I are allowed to have an opinion.

 

[Ghost Pepper]

Take a look at LSU and Arizona this year.... Both of their offensive lines made huge holes in our defensive line for their punishing RB's to get large gains. No way around that! This pulls the DB's and corners in to back up the LB's causing the deep ball to be more easliy thrown as LSU and AZ both showed. As for the BCS championship we are missing a couple major players from that teams defense this year including our all everything LB.

Oregons offense is very quick and strikes fast enough to give 10 points of cushion for most games against good teams.

However against the best teams such as LSU, Bama, Oklahoma and Stanford this year that fast, light D line of Oregon's wont help them against 6'5 300 pounders that bang open huge hole for very punishing running backs! Make no mistake these teams will run as many plays as they can to keep our defense on the field for as long as possible and our offense off it.

Size does matter here! The SEC has shown with 5 championships in 7 years why!

 

[Wheels]

Take a look at LSU and Arizona this year.... Both of their offensive lines made huge holes in our defensive line for their punishing RB's to get large gains. No way around that!

Arizona averaged a whopping 2.3 yards with 35 attempts. LSU averaged 3.6 Yards with 48 attempts and only gave up 98 yards passing.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=312670012
http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=312460099

This pulls the DB's and corners in to back up the LB's causing the deep ball to be more easliy thrown as LSU and AZ both showed.

2 completions for over 10 yards with LSU, and one of them was literally 10 yards. And yes Arizona's QB and WR's are very good. [/QUOTE]

As for the BCS championship we are missing a couple major players from that teams defense this year including our all everything LB.

Yes we are missing some good players. But we still did what other SEC defenses couldnt do (including LSU, Bama, South Carolina, etc) for 4 quarters... we made the Auburn Offense look normal. All of that with a smaller Defensive Line.

Oregons offense is very quick and strikes fast enough to give 10 points of cushion for most games against good teams.

Agreed

However against the best teams such as LSU, Bama, Oklahoma and Stanford this year that fast, light D line of Oregon's wont help them against 6'5 300 pounders that bang open huge hole for very punishing running backs! Make no mistake these teams will run as many plays as they can to keep our defense on the field for as long as possible and our offense off it.

So far 4.0 yards per carry against teams not named Missouri St, and 3.8 yards per carry if you include them. The highest average was against Nevada 5.5 yards per carry. I'd be interested to see how much of that was late and against backups.

Against the teams that punished our lines and created huge holes for their punishing RB's to get huge gains, its an average of 3.09 yards per carry. With the longest going to Ford from LSU of 20 yards, which iirc was a TD so it could have been longer, but he wasnt exactly their speed demon.

Size does matter here!

No one is saying it doesnt. But its a blend of speed and size that is needed. We are still just now getting to recruit those type of athletes.

The SEC has shown with 5 championships in 7 years why!

A guaranteed 4 wins a year coming from their Turd Tech OOC schedule doesnt hurt either.

 

[Wheels]

also to be fair I realize that Sack yards are also included in the total yardage. So I jut looked at the top 2 Carry RB's from each team of the two mentioned. Ware (3.8 ypc) and Ford (6.9 ypc with the 20 yard run 5.8 ypc without) for LSU Antolin ( 4.2 ypc) and Carey (4.0 ypc)

 

[Natebishop3]

I'm done worrying about this.

 

[Wheels]

haha well thats good

 

[Natebishop3]

haha well thats good

Well, it is what it is. We are either good enough to beat Stanford or we aren't. I have sort of come to a sense of calm about this season, as if it's a rebuilding year because we lost so many guys and because we are trying to integrate so many new faces.

One thing I'm a little curious about is whether Cliff Harris will ever seem to recover from this bullshit suspension. He has been awfully quiet.

 

[Targus]

I'm worried. I mean...our secondary did what they had to do to win, but if several of those dropped passes would have been completed, it could have been an entirely different game. We DID win, but we might not be so lucky when we play Luck with the dropped passes. Too many open WR's...

Know what I mean?

 

[Wheels]

Well, it is what it is. We are either good enough to beat Stanford or we aren't. I have sort of come to a sense of calm about this season, as if it's a rebuilding year because we lost so many guys and because we are trying to integrate so many new faces.

One thing I'm a little curious about is whether Cliff Harris will ever seem to recover from this bullshit suspension. He has been awfully quiet.

I hear ya. I just kinda have gotten to the point over the years that I'm not going to overly worry about stuff I have no control over. Watching the Blazers go from the best future in the world, to a probable playoff team has done that to me. Something clicked with me around when I turned 23 or so. I just learned to not worry so much about the destination, but enjoy the journey there.

 

[Natebishop3]

I hear ya. I just kinda have gotten to the point over the years that I'm not going to overly worry about stuff I have no control over. Watching the Blazers go from the best future in the world, to a probable playoff team has done that to me. Something clicked with me around when I turned 23 or so. I just learned to not worry so much about the destination, but enjoy the journey there.

Ah yes.... 23.... when the universe opens up and you are exposed to all of the wisdom that comes with old age

 

[Wheels]

Ah yes.... 23.... when the universe opens up and you are exposed to all of the wisdom that comes with old age

lol yeah I honestly have no idea why it was around that time. Maybe it was the marriage thing, and the wife getting sick of me yelling obscenities at referees and such

 

[Natebishop3]

lol yeah I honestly have no idea why it was around that time. Maybe it was the marriage thing, and the wife getting sick of me yelling obscenities at referees and such

Doesn't she know that refs like having obscenities yelled at them?

 

[Wheels]

my wife is more of the "she doesnt like to hear any swear words" type lol. How she survives Timbers games I will never know.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Hush Wheels and stop acting like you actually watch the games. We all know you don't because you never participate in the game threads, which is the only actual proof that people watch Duck games.... which means that only BP and I are allowed to have an opinion.

I post in the game thread.

During the game.

You bastard!

 

[SlyPokerDog]

my wife is more of the "she doesnt like to hear any swear words" type lol. How she survives Timbers games I will never know.

Must resist... must not make jokes about sleeping with Wheels wife... soooooo hard... must resist harder...

 

[Wheels]

Must resist... must not make jokes about sleeping with Wheels wife... soooooo hard... must resist harder...

go ahead I figure at least SOMEONE in this marriage has to be having sex!










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