I can sense something happening, not the usual ST optimism

[totus44]

...still waiting for an explanation of "the plan" of Cashman's that you defined as being the need to "get younger and more athletic"?...if that is truly "the plan" how do you explain the signings of Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and the acquisition of Garrett Jones.?...Are they part of "the plan" and the youth movement?

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I think we'll see even Cashman abandoning trying to rationalize his "plan" by the ASB. Sadly he needs to realize its indefensible now. Even harder to figure out is why blg feels the need to defend it? Bottom line, Cash got out played, out dealt this off season. Even if one of these guys end up being lightning caught in a bottle, this has been one of the most head scratch inducing off season in quite some time.

The only thing he could have done worse would to have crafted another Kevin Brown/Randy Johnson/Carl Pavano type deal.

 

[totus44]

Physical age difference between Greene and Eovaldi needed to be tempered against the number of innings thrown.. Nathan's arm had been pressed into some serious service last year.

Headley/Prado....5 months difference, almost same number of PAs since 2007.

This isn't getting younger.....these are pushes, taking one known quantity and exchanging it for an unknown quantity. Great plan, lol!

 

[yankeesince59]

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Cashman and the Yanks have indeed infused the team and franchise with more youth which I HAVE already pointed out (German, Shreve, drafting Lindgren), Pirela, who WILL be on the team, maybe even Refsnyder sooner than later.....but I guess you kinda overlook certain details which won't fit your criticism of some/most of my posts.

I liked what I saw from Greene(26yrs old) last year and wasn't thrilled when they traded him, however, I don't see him being some kind of top of the SP rotation guy...probably a good # 3 at best.....that's my opinion, and time (not you) will tell.
And guess what? Cashman has replaced Greene with a younger pitcher (Eovoldi 24 yrs old) with a higher ceiling and certainly better "stuff" and yes, he is a work in progress, has done well so far in ST and again we're just going to have wait and see.

Same for Gregorious, this "young" kid has excellent defensive tools which should help prevent baserunners and help the pitching staff. He hasn't had many MLB ABs and if you think he'll never be able to hit above .200 vs LHP and improve his numbers vs RHP than I can't blame you for not liking that trade. And of course, sorry to disappoint you again, but we're just going to have to wait and see.....if this kid can make considerable offensive improvements, he's going to dynamite - IMO.

You never know, Greene might turn into a mediocrity....stranger things have happened.
We'll see how the trade works out.

As for trying to avoid trading your best prospects, I won't mind giving one or two of the non top prospects for a player, but notice how Cashman has been avoiding being raped by other teams regarding giving up his top prospects.
Greene went for a SS who could possibly seal that position for years.

Garrett Jones, part of the Prado and Phelps (lol) trade and you should know he was included for the Yanks to give them some DH/1b depth and he DOES have a good power swing for YS. Yep, Yanks just might be looking for some rejuvenation from him in his new surroundings.......unless you were looking for Mike Trout to fill those spots...lmao.

Capuano signing was nothing more than a warm body insurance policy who can hold down the 5th or 6th spot and there's a fair chance one of younger pitchers will take that 5th spot. Maybe Warren and someone else who is "young".
And I think Ryan sucks and won't be surprised if he's released.....but is he a make or break asset for the Yanks?
C'mon, get real.
And remember, Headley is younger than Prado..lol

Right now, as we speak, your crystal ball isn't in the least more accurate than mine when it comes to the 2015 Yankee expectations and performance......trades included.
Long season, which hasn't begun yet.
But feel free to be the old sage voice of reason![/QUOTE

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...lol ^^^ why am I not surprised? All that typing for a huge wall of words that still do not answer the question.
...One more time, IF Cashman's master "plan" was as you claimed it to be, a conscious effort to "get younger and more athletic", explain the reasoning behind adding "Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and Garrett Jones"?...they clearly don't fit "the plan".

...if the youngster the Yanx have waiting in the wings are as good as you perceive them to be, there was NO need to sign those five 30+ players...your pretzel logic keeps contradicting itself, as it generally does. And you cannot explain it away no matter how many meaningless words you throw against the wall.

 

[blgridesagain]

Physical age difference between Greene and Eovaldi needed to be tempered against the number of innings thrown.. Nathan's arm had been pressed into some serious service last year.

Headley/Prado....5 months difference, almost same number of PAs since 2007.

This isn't getting younger.....these are pushes, taking one known quantity and exchanging it for an unknown quantity. Great plan, lol!

Oh, I get it.....Greene is a known quantity and Eovoldi doesn't possess overpowering stuff in need of more control of at least one other pitch...okay, got it.

Headley isn't recognized as being one of the better defensive 3b by MLB "baseball people"?...... not including the usual handful of posters.
He has good career OBP, hits around .260-.265.....does very well career wise AWAY from SD. I think the Yanks have their 3b. Of course we need him to stay healthy....but even young pitchers/players like Stroman of Toronto can go down.
I think Headley will make a good account of himself with the Yanks.

 

[blgridesagain]

...lol ^^^ why am I not surprised? All that typing for a huge wall of words that still do not answer the question.
...One more time, IF Cashman's master "plan" was as you claimed it to be, a conscious effort to "get younger and more athletic", explain the reasoning behind adding "Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and Garrett Jones"?...they clearly don't fit "the plan".

...if the youngster the Yanx have waiting in the wings are as good as you perceive them to be, there was NO need to sign those five 30+ players...your pretzel logic keeps contradicting itself, as it generally does. And you cannot explain it away no matter how many meaningless words you throw against the wall.

Stop acting like a fool and read my post.
So maybe you want Refsnyder to be the DH? Okay fine.
Capuano - garshdarn it- for the umpteenth time is a warm body insurance policy place holder for the 5th-6th spot until the Yanks sort out Warren,Whitley, later Nova and heaven forbid a few injuries to the SP.....and I won't be surprised if YOU see another young pitcher before September......and Ryan, unfortunately, there of course is the possibility he may have to platoon with Gregorious but I see Gregorius eventually making the strides to become the regular SS.....IMO....we'll see.
Drew? What's all the fuss? He just turned 33.
Only a matter of time before Pirela or Refsnyder takes over that spot......but in the meantime, what do you say if he hits in the .250s and pops a few HRs over the RF fence?
Garrett Jones? What the hell did you expect for a part time DH occasional 1b?

Please.....are you pulling my leg? Knock off the trivial crap and let's hope the pitching staff stays healthy along with a couple of key regulars.

 

[yankeesince59]

Oh, I get it.....Greene is a known quantity and Eovoldi doesn't possess overpowering stuff in need of more control of at least one other pitch...okay, got it.

...no, you don't "get it"...and I don't think you ever will.

Headley isn't recognized as being one of the better defensive 3b by MLB "baseball people"?...... not including the usual handful of posters.
He has good career OBP, hits around .260-.265.....does very well career wise AWAY from SD. I think the Yanks have their 3b. Of course we need him to stay healthy....but even young pitchers/players like Stroman of Toronto can go down.
I think Headley will make a good account of himself with the Yanks.

..."I think the Yanks have their 3Bman"?... well no shit, thanx for the newsflash.
...they have no choice now because they overpaid and over extended him by signing him to an ill-advised 4 year deal. Headley has a balky back, he's mediocre at bat, above average in the field. And stop citing "career" numbers because they don't mean crap...Headley has not been anything more than mediocre since 2012. Headley's not terrible but he's nothing special either. Prado is not as good defensively as Headley but he's not a butcher at 3B either. Conversely, Prado is better offensively, offers more speed and is much more versatile and his contract is much more friendly...he'll also only be 33 when his contract ends while Headley will be 35 when his ends.

 

[Rick2583]

Why do I feel like I'm seeing a really bad version of Groundhog day.

 

[yankeesince59]

Stop acting like a fool and read my post.
So maybe you want Refsnyder to be the DH? Okay fine.
Capuano - garshdarn it- for the umpteenth time is a warm body insurance policy place holder for the 5th-6th spot until the Yanks sort out Warren,Whitley, later Nova and heaven forbid a few injuries to the SP.....and I won't be surprised if YOU see another young pitcher before September......and Ryan, unfortunately, there of course is the possibility he may have to platoon with Gregorious but I see Gregorius eventually making the strides to become the regular SS.....IMO....we'll see.
Drew? What's all the fuss? Only a matter of time before Pirela or Refsnyder takes over that spot......but in the meantime, what do you say if he hits in the .250s and pops a few over the RF fence.
Garrett Jones? What the hell did you expect for a part time DH occasional 1b?

Please.....are you pulling my leg? Knock off the trivial crap and let's hope the pitching staff stays healthy along with a couple of key regulars.

...you really are dense, aren't you?....stick to the point. And like I've already told you, there's "no reason to reread drivel because reading it again does not change it from being drivel".
...You're defending Cashman and claiming he has a clear cut "plan" to "get younger and more athletic"...I've clearly shown that is evidently not at all true and that Cashman's and/or your reasoning is woefully flawed and contradictory, because there is no "plan"...and you have once again failed miserably to show otherwise.

 

[blgridesagain]

Why do I feel like I'm seeing a really bad version of Groundhog day.

Obviously because a few posters either don't read my replies THE FIRST TIME, or just want to try and convince ME I'm wrong simply because THEY disagree with MY opinion and insinuating I'm some kind of jerk because it happens to be a small minority opinion. I can't help that....its my opinion.....yet there's plenty we can agree on.

Keep in mind Rick, most of these latest hot button Yankee issues, such as how many wins the team will have, Arod making it or not out of ST, Cashman making "bad deals"...... these matters have yet to be settled, its a long season which hasn't begun and ST is still up in the air. Jeez

 

[Rick2583]

Obviously because a few posters either don't read my replies THE FIRST TIME, or just want to try and convince ME I'm wrong simply because THEY disagree with MY opinion.

Keep in mind Rick, most of these latest hot button Yankee issues, such as how many wins the will have, Arod not making it out of ST, Cashman making "bad deals"...... these matters have yet to be settled, its a long season which hasn't begun and ST is still up in the air. Jeez

But I can't help but notice that you STILL can't explain LOGICALLY Cashman so-called plan to get younger & more athletic when he signs guys like Garrett Jones (33), Stephen Drew (32) & Chris Capuano (36). I mean, I actually like the Jones signing for a backup 1st baseman / DH But PLEASE getting younger is obviously NOT part of the plan. Just saying.

 

[yankeesince59]

...^^^and he won't explain it because as you said, he can't.

 

[blgridesagain]

...you really are dense, aren't you?....stick to the point. And like I've already told you, there's "no reason to reread drivel because reading it again does not change it from being drivel".
...You're defending Cashman and claiming he has a clear cut "plan" to "get younger and more athletic"...I've clearly shown that is evidently not at all true and that Cashman's and/or your reasoning is woefully flawed and contradictory, because there is no "plan"...and you have once again failed miserably to show otherwise.

German, Lindgren, Pirela, Gregorius, Shreve, JR Murphy, very soon Refsnyder and don't be shocked if some other kid makes the team.

SP rotation including Pineda, Tanaka, Eovoldi, Warren or Whitley with Nova EXPECTED back for June.
Is THIS an old staff? Speak up, can't hear ya!
Yeah, they're stuck with CC but he hasn't YET shown to be ineffective and not too many complained when they signed Tex.

And one of you're biggest beefs is adding a 33 yr old (34 in June) part time DH backup 1b.
You're nuts!

 

[yankeesince59]

...^^^ why do you keep doing this?...why can't you stay on topic for a change?

...wtf does any of what you said have to do with explaining how the acquisitions of "Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and Garrett Jones", who are older players, support your claim that the "plan" is to "get younger"?...I don't "have a beef" with the players necessarily, I'm just trying to get a simple answer to a simple question concerning your interpretation of Cashman's supposed "plan" as you perceive it.

...if Cashman's "plan" was to get younger, why were these 5 older players added, especially since as you claim, some of the youngsters could have been given the roster spot?...can you explain this or not?...either provide something tangible and on point or admit your stance has no basis.

 

[blgridesagain]

...^^^ why do you keep doing this?...why can't you stay on topic for a change?

...wtf does any of what you said have to do with explaining how the acquisitions of "Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and Garrett Jones", who are older players, support your claim that the "plan" is to "get younger"?...I don't "have a beef" with the players necessarily, I'm just trying to get a simple answer to a simple question concerning your interpretation of Cashman's supposed "plan" as you perceive it.

...if Cashman's "plan" was to get younger, why were these 5 older players added, especially since as you claim, some of the youngsters could have been given the roster spot?...can you explain this or not?...either provide something tangible and on point or admit your stance has no basis.

I gave examples of the Yanks getting younger.....in English.
Headley is

...^^^ why do you keep doing this?...why can't you stay on topic for a change?

...wtf does any of what you said have to do with explaining how the acquisitions of "Drew and Headley and Ryan, and Capuano, and Garrett Jones", who are older players, support your claim that the "plan" is to "get younger"?...I don't "have a beef" with the players necessarily, I'm just trying to get a simple answer to a simple question concerning your interpretation of Cashman's supposed "plan" as you perceive it.

...if Cashman's "plan" was to get younger, why were these 5 older players added, especially since as you claim, some of the youngsters could have been given the roster spot?...can you explain this or not?...either provide something tangible and on point or admit your stance has no basis.

Lol, why do YOU keep doing this?
I gave examples of the Yankees getting younger. (post 72)
You have a problem with Capuano, fine.....and I've already said they obviously chose him to be a warm body insurance policy holding down the 5th-6th spot until they sort things out with Warren, Whitley and Nova eventually returning which he IS ON schedule for. Maybe Cashman should've gone with young pitcher for the 5th spot...okay, I wouldn't mind....but I don't think Capuano is "proof" that they are not and have not infused a couple/few younger players.
Drew just turned 33, not the end of the world....and AS I'VE ALREADY SAID in the other post, if he stinks up the place you'll be seeing Pirela (maybe Refsnyder) at 2b very shortly.

Garrett Jones - sorry, I see no indictment of Cashman because he's acquired a 33 yr old in a multiplayer trade which he will be used as a part time DH backup 1b.
Shall we look at the ages of all regular/platoon DHs? I don't think you want to go there.

Chase Headley is 30 years old, he'll be 31 in June. ho hum.
Jose Reyes is 31 yrs old, JJ Hardy was just signed at 31 yrs old.
Alex Gordon is 30 yrs old.

My opinion, I think Headley will give a good representative job as the Yankee 3b.
They're stuck with Tex...we know.
Beltran a bad signing? Didn't look so stupid after the year he had before signing with the Yanks. And he could still be one of the more important Yankee hitters/players as a good switch hitter. He can be huge if he stays healthy....ideal for some DH and some RF.


Now for the moment of truth....do you expect the current Yankee situation NOT to have ANY players over 30 years old?

I'm beginning to wonder about you.....are you okay?
You seem to have trouble grasping some certain basics.

 

[totus44]

Maybe Cashman logic onlybmakes sense to the 'intellectually challenged'. There 59, I solved the other major question of the off-season...why the Steins gave him three more years.

Why is it so freaking hard to admit that Cashman HAS NO plan? I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt...heck go back a few months and it was me against everyone else. You need to consider the timing on the moves and what else was going on at the time. And who he didn't pull the trigger on. Cashman would be the first to admit, off the record, that this isn't the roster he planned on fielding. In that belief you are truly alone.

 

[blgridesagain]

Maybe Cashman logic onlybmakes sense to the 'intellectually challenged'. There 59, I solved the other major question of the off-season...why the Steins gave him three more years.

Why is it so freaking hard to admit that Cashman HAS NO plan? I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt...heck go back a few months and it was me against everyone else. You need to consider the timing on the moves and what else was going on at the time. And who he didn't pull the trigger on. Cashman would be the first to admit, off the record, that this isn't the roster he planned on fielding. In that belief you are truly alone.

Maybe there just happened to be real sensible reasons (which may have gone against his plan?) for him having to do the best he can without getting molested in possible trades? Don't know about you (or '59) but I wasn't privy to all of Cashman's face to face and phone conversations he's had with other GMs.

But anyway, please give me a couple of examples of moves Cashman should've/could've pulled the trigger on which would've made you give him a high, or higher grading.

 

[Rick2583]

German, Lindgren, Pirela, Gregorius, Shreve, JR Murphy, very soon Refsnyder and don't be shocked if some other kid makes the team.

SP rotation including Pineda, Tanaka, Eovoldi, Warren or Whitley with Nova EXPECTED back for June.
Is THIS an old staff? Speak up, can't hear ya!
Yeah, they're stuck with CC but he hasn't YET shown to be ineffective and not too many complained when they signed Tex.

And one of you're biggest beefs is adding a 33 yr old (34 in June) part time DH backup 1b.
You're nuts!

 

[Rick2583]

Sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make. And in my opinion there was absolutely no reason to get rid of Prado or Greene or for resigning Drew.

With that said, don't you think we've pretty much beaten this topic to death?

As they use to say on TV................................................................................................'Say goodnight Dick".

 

[yankeesince59]

Maybe Cashman logic onlybmakes sense to the 'intellectually challenged'. There 59, I solved the other major question of the off-season...why the Steins gave him three more years.

Why is it so freaking hard to admit that Cashman HAS NO plan? I tried giving him the benefit of the doubt...heck go back a few months and it was me against everyone else. You need to consider the timing on the moves and what else was going on at the time. And who he didn't pull the trigger on. Cashman would be the first to admit, off the record, that this isn't the roster he planned on fielding. In that belief you are truly alone.

...yeah, and if you take the $5 Mil they gave Drew and applied it to the Moncada negotiations, he'd be in the Yanx pocket now instead of Boston's. The Steins and Cashman were willing to give Drew $5 Mil, but were not willing to give another $5 Mil to Moncada....brilliant !

 

[Messiah717]

I think it's less about a plan and more about having to work around poor decisions. For example you're seeing what happens when you hand out long term big money contracts like they're candy. I have no issue if anyone wants to be optimistic about this season. They shouldn't be criticized for that. I personally just don't see how this team is any better. To me too much has to go right and we know it never does.

 

[Rick2583]

Though I'm really not very optimistic about this season, with the good young core of players we have I am about the future. Like seeing Bird at first, Refsnyder / Pirela at 2nd & perhaps Judge in right field.

 

[yankeesince59]

...^^^ now THAT would be "getting younger".

 

[Rick2583]

...^^^ now THAT would be "getting younger".

Sadly I don't see it becoming a reality for AT LEAST another year or two.

 

[yankeesince59]

...you'd probably see it this year except for the fact that Jones (33), Drew (32)/ Ryan (32), and Beltran(37) et al, are still under contract.

 

[Rick2583]

Not to mention our 35 year old useless 1st baseman.

 

[Mattingly23NY]

I think we'll see even Cashman abandoning trying to rationalize his "plan" by the ASB. Sadly he needs to realize its indefensible now. Even harder to figure out is why blg feels the need to defend it? Bottom line, Cash got out played, out dealt this off season. Even if one of these guys end up being lightning caught in a bottle, this has been one of the most head scratch inducing off season in quite some time.

The only thing he could have done worse would to have crafted another Kevin Brown/Randy Johnson/Carl Pavano type deal.

It must of been embarrassing to be in Trash-Mans shoes this winter. Left holding a pair of snake eyes, IF THAT....while the other GM's and Owners, seemed to had a ball.....Brian was left holding nothing, not even a lit cigar, and NO ONE would lend him a match....and why should they?

 

[Mattingly23NY]

49 cards short of a full deck? Is that anything like being 2 cans short of a 6 pack?, having toys in the attic?, Bread isn't fully baked?, or having the porch light on but nobody's home? Just wondering.

Once again my old friend, (not old like in O-L-D, cuz 65 is the new 35), but Old as in Long Time:

Rick, you've hit the nail and/or bullseye Right On the Head, Dead Center....!

Or another old buddy and Michael say: "A french fry short of a Happy Meal"....

 

[Mattingly23NY]

Couple of thoughts.

1) Yanks obviously believe Drew will bounce back with a fresh start full ST and put up at least creditable similar numbers to what he did two seasons ago he'll turn 33 this month and whether you or any of you're yes men like it or not, we're just going to wait and see how it works out. He could do well, or could eventually become the backup SS/2b. Yanks are prepared to go with one of the kids, probably Pirela is Drew doesn't work out but as of now - YOU or I have yet to be proven right OR wrong.

2) Fact - Headley is younger than Prado....just thought that might really rile you up....lmao

3) Yanks (CASHMAN) have exchanged Prado and Phelps for Eovoldi, Domingo German and Garrett Jones. Prado is a good player and I've already said so in other posts but of course you've got to give something to get something, and by the way, I'm hoping you're not reserving a plaque for him in the HOF. lol
In the process, the Yanks also dumped Phelps(28 yrs old) who not only has gone down with long term injuries the past two seasons, when he DOES pitch he has trouble getting past the 5th-6th innings and owns a career 4.31 ERA and 1.34 WHIP.....the Yanks received Domingo German (22yrs old) in return. He is now the youngest pitcher on the 40 man roster and 2nd youngest player behind Sanchez on 40 man roster.
German (low minors) has a 2.33 ERA. 1.15 WHIP.
Last year started 25 games, 123.1 IP, 2.48 ERA, 1.14 WHIP.

Yanks picked up two young pitchers in the Prado/Phelps trade,
one of them Eovoldi (24yrs old) is expected to be in the rotation and German(22yr old).
Garrett Jones is obviously a part with some LH power who they're going to use for DH and backup 1b and the Yanks have IMO good reason to expect him to benefit playing at Yankee Stadium.

4) Yanks acquired a 24 yr old LH reliever Shreve in the Banuelos trade, last season pitched 12.1 IP with 15 Ks with a 1.05 WHIP and so far in ST pitched 5 IP, 5Ks, 1BB, 1.80 ERA and a 0.60 whip.
They also have Lindgren (22 yr old LH reliever) who had 48 Ks in 24.1 IP, 2.19 ERA, 1.01 WHIP, avg 17.5 K per 9 IP in minors and so far in ST has done well....4 IP, 8 Ks, 0.00 ERA.

I know a few innings here and there doesn't make a career, but if somebody can't feel good/ "optimistic" about having a couple of young LHs like this in the bank, then all I can say is you must enjoy being a miserable naysayer.

By the way, the jury is still out on Greene, and he certainly isn't "ace" material.....let's not get crazy.
Looks to me like CASHMAN has added some good young pitching depth and the rotation is expected to include Eovoldi, Pineda, Tanaka maybe Warren (remember him? lol) and they're expecting Nova in June....and he IS on schedule.
Wow.....what a bunch of old timers. lol

Oh, I almost forgot, Arod.
It's not exactly a national secret that he's 39 yrs old who has had hip problems....but I admit, I think he has enough left to help this team as part of some DH rotation.

And I think it's only fair to those who say he won't make it out of ST......
.....are you enjoying the full course meal of crow that he has been serving up to you?

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"Predictably failing to directly address each of my points" ????
You think this is brain surgery....?
You fail to "directly address" each of my points much often than you accuse me of.
I don't mind at all, I enjoy shooting the breeze about this baseball Yankee stuff.
First I'll post YOUR post in question, then I'll reply, okay?
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...just nowsaw this...and I'm still shaking my head in disbelief although I should have gotten used to it by now.

1. No one has said that Cashman does not have a "plan"...Oh, he has one, but it makes no sense, has no direction, and one move seems tocontradict the next.

2. According to you, Cashman's plan is to "get younger and moreathletic"... so you point to Gregorius as an example of Cash's plan, addand you also point to the young farm hands theYanx have in the minors...but it does not explain the signings of Drew and Headley andRyan, and Capuano, and the acquisition of Garrett Jones. Are they partof "the plan" and the youth movement?

3. Gregorius is more than just a "gamble"....and he'd better "pan out"because the Yanx coughed up Shane Greene to get him.

4. And according to you " The trick is to try and hold onto your better prospects in any possible trade." ...geee, ya think? But you also seem tothink that the Yanx can instead, simply offer up lesser prospects toanother team and pick up "a good young established player who canstep right in and help the team." ... My question is, if such as playerexists, why in the world would another team willingly give him up andwhy would they do so in return for scraps from the farm..
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My reply.
Cashman and the Yanks have indeed infused the team and franchise with more youth which I HAVE already pointed out (German, Shreve, drafting Lindgren), Pirela, who WILL be on the team, maybe even Refsnyder sooner than later.....but I guess you kinda overlook certain details which won't fit your criticism of some/most of my posts.

I liked what I saw from Greene(26yrs old) last year and wasn't thrilled when they traded him, however, I don't see him being some kind of top of the SP rotation guy...probably a good # 3 at best.....that's my opinion, and time (not you) will tell.
And guess what? Cashman has replaced Greene with a younger pitcher (Eovoldi 24 yrs old) with a higher ceiling and certainly better "stuff" and yes, he is a work in progress, has done well so far in ST and again we're just going to have wait and see.

Same for Gregorious, this "young" kid has excellent defensive tools which should help prevent baserunners and help the pitching staff. He hasn't had many MLB ABs and if you think he'll never be able to hit above .200 vs LHP and improve his numbers vs RHP than I can't blame you for not liking that trade. And of course, sorry to disappoint you again, but we're just going to have to wait and see.....if this kid can make considerable offensive improvements, he's going to dynamite - IMO.

You never know, Greene might turn into a mediocrity....stranger things have happened.
We'll see how the trade works out.

As for trying to avoid trading your best prospects, I won't mind giving one or two of the non top prospects for a player, but notice how Cashman has been avoiding being raped by other teams regarding giving up his top prospects.
Greene went for a SS who could possibly seal that position for years.

Garrett Jones, part of the Prado and Phelps (lol) trade and you should know he was included for the Yanks to give them some DH/1b depth and he DOES have a good power swing for YS. Yep, Yanks just might be looking for some rejuvenation from him in his new surroundings.......unless you were looking for Mike Trout to fill those spots...lmao.

Capuano signing was nothing more than a warm body insurance policy who can hold down the 5th or 6th spot and there's a fair chance one of younger pitchers will take that 5th spot. Maybe Warren and someone else who is "young".
And I think Ryan sucks and won't be surprised if he's released.....but is he a make or break asset for the Yanks?
C'mon, get real.
And remember, Headley is younger than Prado..lol

Right now, as we speak, your crystal ball isn't in the least more accurate than mine when it comes to the 2015 Yankee expectations and performance......trades included.
Long season, which hasn't begun yet.
But feel free to be the old sage voice of reason!

Geezus effing Chrissst. If you can't make it as an anal-yst, you sure as hell aren't going to make it as a Journal-ist. Don't quit your day job....

PS-TMI, to the 4th squared, thus not worth reading even 1 sentence. Time for a break, try out the closet...!

 

[totus44]

I think it's less about a plan and more about having to work around poor decisions. For example you're seeing what happens when you hand out long term big money contracts like they're candy. I have no issue if anyone wants to be optimistic about this season. They shouldn't be criticized for that. I personally just don't see how this team is any better. To me too much has to go right and we know it never does.

For me....as they need to rebuild and retool, get as many kids in there at the same time. Plenty of vets for leadership. Let the kids play in 2015 and 2016....increasing expectations for a run starting in 2017.

 

[Rick2583]

For me....as they need to rebuild and retool, get as many kids in there at the same time. Plenty of vets for leadership. Let the kids play in 2015 and 2016....increasing expectations for a run starting in 2017.

This idea works for me.