I didn’t realize how good Michael jordan was

[Minstrel]

If you're going into a chicken-or-egg discussion, then there will never be a right answer. All I'm saying is that the increase in overall scoring over the past 20 years is more attributable mathematically to pace than efficiency. You said it was "mostly about efficiency"--the numbers say otherwise.

Okay. You seem a bit chippy for what I think is a fairly reasonable point, but we can leave it at that.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Okay. You seem a bit chippy for what I think is a fairly reasonable point, but we can leave it at that.

 

[Minstrel]

I said I wanted to leave it at that, but you really leave me no choice.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I said I wanted to leave it at that, but you really leave me no choice.

This is the internet the chippy can never stop!

 

[Minstrel]

This is the internet the chippy can never stop!

You mean, once you pop, you can't stop?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Okay. You seem a bit chippy for what I think is a fairly reasonable point, but we can leave it at that.

Chippy? I'm not sure where that's coming from. I'm simply clarifying my compartmentalization.

 

[BonesJones]

It wasn't, it was only more physical. More hand-checking was allowed, harder fouls were allowed without flagrants being called.

But the sophistication of defenses was far lesser and zone defenses weren't allowed. So you might get battered more in the 1980s and 1990s, which was tough in its own way I guess, but defense itself is actually better today in my opinion.

It didnt seem that much more physical to be honest.

 

[HailBlazers]

Nice to read some basketball arguments, seems like its been fooooreeeeeever.

 

[chris_in_pdx]

I hated Jordan when he was a player and always rooted against him but I realized at the time that I was witnessing greatness that even the overcrushing marketing that surrounded him couldn't jackhammer into your brain. The memories of Magic/Bird/Jabbar/Dr. J/Walton were still fresh in my mind while watching MJ play, so I was able to put some contextual relevance to what I was watching when the Bulls won 6 titles (2 3-peats) in 8 years. Here was a man who literally Would. Not. Lose. Watching him fail in the 95 playoffs after coming back from his "retirement" (probably an unofficial gambling suspension) just fueled my belief that this man wouldn't lose again if he could physically help it. People talk about Kobe's "Mamba Mentality", MJ put Kobe to shame with his killer "Win At All Costs" mindset. Watch "The Flu" game sometime, the man was superhuman. I think that if his body hadn't started finally failing him when he put on a Wizards jersey, he could have dragged that team to a title as well.

 

[calvin natt]

How is this possible

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

Nice to read some basketball arguments, seems like its been fooooreeeeeever.

For the first time in for ever...

 

[PtldPlatypus]

For the first time in for ever...

Someone has been watching Frozen.

 

[magnifier661]

Bo Jackson bitches!!!

Fight me!

Bo Jackson got me into football. Didn’t really care for it until he started playing.

 

[magnifier661]

Nice to read some basketball arguments, seems like its been fooooreeeeeever.

Who would of thought a trolling post would evolve into this! I like what I’m reading

 

[jlprk]

Both sides make good arguments about the 1990s vs. now. Because it's a tie.

 

[jlprk]

Both decades suck compared to the 1970s. Legalize it!

 

[Minstrel]

Michael Jordan wasn't really that good. Mostly marketing.

No, that's unfair. All marketing.

 

[dead247]

Late to the party

edit - i did not realize it was party size til now lol