I don't want to jinx it, but...

[illmatic99]

In the last 5 games without CJ, here are Seth Curry's stats:

29.8 mins, 17.4 pts, 3.2 rebs, 1.2 asts, 1stl on 52% FG, 48% 3pt, 92% FT

 

[TBpup]

I've believed for quite some time many of CJ's points could be fairly easily replaced and that his greatest value to this team is what we could get in a trade to strengthen other areas of greater need.

 

[Propagandist]

In the last 5 games without CJ, here are Seth Curry's stats:

29.8 mins, 17.4 pts, 3.2 rebs, 1.2 asts, 1stl on 52% FG, 48% 3pt, 92% FT

That one fateful free-throw rattling out still haunts me...

 

[illmatic99]

I've believed for quite some time many of CJ's points could be fairly easily replaced and that his greatest value to this team is what we could get in a trade to strengthen other areas of greater need.

Fine, I don't want to turn this into a CJ trade/bash thread, but it's not really THAT easy to find a guy who can do what Seth is doing.

 

[TBpup]

Fine, I don't want to turn this into a CJ trade/bash thread, but it's not really THAT easy to find a guy who can do what Seth is doing.

Nothing in my post implied anything about 'bashing' CJ. He is a very good scorer but small guard scorer's are not THAT rare. He is certainly one of the better ones but if you can get anywhere close to reproducing his offensive production, his value to the team might be best providing an upgrade in the front court.

 

[Pinwheel1]

In the last 5 games without CJ, here are Seth Curry's stats:

29.8 mins, 17.4 pts, 3.2 rebs, 1.2 asts, 1stl on 52% FG, 48% 3pt, 92% FT

Yeah he is certainly increasing his value as a FA. And after playing for a minimal amount so far in his career he will be looking to get as much as he can next year. From anyone......

So who do you offer our mid level exception too? Curry, Hood, or Kanter. Or will they all be offered more?

 

[illmatic99]

Yeah he is certainly increasing his value as a FA. And after playing for a minimal amount so far in his career he will be looking to get as much as he can next year. From anyone......

So who do you offer our mid level exception too? Curry, Hood, or Kanter. Or will they all be offered more?

wait for playoffs to finish to decide. Also want to see if any other moves will be made in the offseason (CJ trade, etc). These decisions are all lower priority.

 

[julius]

I think it zhies, once he was healthy, the team was under utilizing him.

 

[B-Roy]

He's hit more shots and played with more confidence.

Felt like he was deferring a lot earlier in the season or passing up shots. Seth is a gunner, and with CJ out he probably got the green light to just put up shots.

5 games is a small sample size though. I want to see him play well in the playoffs. Either way, he's probably not here next year so it doesn't really matter. If Seth players REALLY well, it would be interesting if we trade CJ for something and then try to pay Seth. I think he could start next to Dame. Honestly, he plays better defense than both Dame and CJ.

I'm still skeptical though. Of his double digit games this season, only three have been against opponents with winning records, and he's barely cracked double digits in those games.

All his 20 point games have come against crap teams.

 

[illmatic99]

He's hit more shots and played with more confidence.

Felt like he was deferring a lot earlier in the season or passing up shots. Seth is a gunner, and with CJ out he probably got the green light to just put up shots.

5 games is a small sample size though. I want to see him play well in the playoffs. Either way, he's probably not here next year so it doesn't really matter. If Seth players REALLY well, it would be interesting if we trade CJ for something and then try to pay Seth. I think he could start next to Dame. Honestly, he plays better defense than both Dame and CJ.

If he was Rodney's height, I'd throw 12-15 mil/yr at him.

 

[B-Roy]

If he was Rodney's height, I'd throw 12-15 mil/yr at him.

If he was Rodney's height, he'd be Klay Thompson. But he's not Rodney's height...

 

[BBert]

I've believed for quite some time many of CJ's points could be fairly easily replaced and that his greatest value to this team is what we could get in a trade to strengthen other areas of greater need.

I see the light.

 

[BBert]

That one fateful free-throw rattling out still haunts me...

If he hadn't gotten that steal we'd have lost and we'd still have Nurk.

Damn it Curry!

 

[B-Roy]

If he hadn't gotten that steal we'd have lost and we'd still have Nurk.

Damn it Curry!

Any way you look at it, it's Curry's fault.

LVP.

 

[BBert]

Yeah he is certainly increasing his value as a FA. And after playing for a minimal amount so far in his career he will be looking to get as much as he can next year. From anyone......

So who do you offer our mid level exception too? Curry, Hood, or Kanter. Or will they all be offered more?

For me Kanter would be last on that list, although Nurk's injury certainly changes everything in that evaluation.

Hood got off to a rocky start, but he's really acclimated, Stotts has learned how to use him, and he is a valuable piece. I call Hood the "Turner Stopper", because he makes Turner completely expendable.

For the difference in salary, and considering the caliber of player CJ would demand in trade, Curry makes CJ expendable as well.

My answer is clear some salary (Turner, Meyers) and keep Hood and Curry. I know everyone says Turner and Meyers are untradeable, but I believe anyone is tradeable. Throw in some sweeteners and get some salary off our cap.

If we can't trade Turner/Meyers, and we can only afford one, and if CJ isn't getting traded, I'd keep Hood at this point because he provides solid play off the bench at a position of need, and can start if needed. And he's the Turner Stopper

 

[cityofroses]

That one fateful free-throw rattling out still haunts me...

That goes in and we never know of Nurks injury shit at this point I wish Dlo hit the game winner after those shots

 

[THE HCP]

You jinxed it!

 

[tykendo]

Can't jinx what's already jinxed (insert Nurk's injury).

 

[Natebishop3]

I think Dame is a better player without CJ, and I think CJ is a better player without Dame.

They both need the ball in their hands.

 

[Rhal]

I think Dame is a better player without CJ, and I think CJ is a better player without Dame.

They both need the ball in their hands.

I'v thought this for awhile as well. CJ is great because of how great a shooter her is but he doesn't want to pull a klay and just sit in the corner he actively wants the ball in his hands. I really want to see Jrue Holiday next to Dame but man Jrues contract is something else.

 

[e_blazer]

With the efficiency that Seth has shown on his shot he’s going to get offers for more than MLE money. The odds of him being a Blazer next year are near zero, IMO. A better question is whether Hood can replace CJ’s scoring next year. Doubt it.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Free Agency will be interesting this year. However, with half of the league FAs this offseason...
1) I don't think teams will be falling over themselves to get a tiny tot who can't create his own shot, play PG, or play defense particularly well.
2) Since teams will be scrambling to move salary for a chance at all of these FAs, Biebs and ET won't be traded (until the deadline, if at all).

tldr;
If you like Curry, don't worry.
If you want ET and Biebs gone, it ain't gonna happen.

 

[THE HCP]

C'Mon MODS, merge please!

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/dont-wanna-jinx-but.155334/

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

C'Mon MODS, merge please!

http://www.sportstwo.com/threads/dont-wanna-jinx-but.155334/

Lol, how did you even find that thread.

 

[THE HCP]

Lol, how did you even find that thread.

When you are reading a thread, when you get to the bottom, it shows other threads that have similar titles. Just so happened to see the one from me at the bottom.

 

[Minstrel]

I'v thought this for awhile as well. CJ is great because of how great a shooter her is but he doesn't want to pull a klay and just sit in the corner he actively wants the ball in his hands.

The thing is, Thompson doesn't just sit in the corner, waiting for the ball. He plays more like Reggie Miller, zooming around the court constantly, around screens, losing defenders. His constant motion creates disorder for defenses. McCollum could do that and be plenty active. And even then, he still wouldn't have to be a pure shooter--attacking close-outs, drawing help and finishing or kicking out is immensely valuable when the ball does come to him. I don't think McCollum needs the ball in his hands, in a ball-dominant fashion, to be successful.

 

[BBert]

With the efficiency that Seth has shown on his shot he’s going to get offers for more than MLE money. The odds of him being a Blazer next year are near zero, IMO. A better question is whether Hood can replace CJ’s scoring next year. Doubt it.

No, he can't. But that doesn't mean team efficiency or scoring would go down. Also, CJ's defense isn't much.

 

[e_blazer]

No, he can't. But that doesn't mean team efficiency or scoring would go down. Also, CJ's defense isn't much.

Don’t disagree with that, Bert. I’ve never said I was totally against trading CJ. What I have always said is that I think the right approach to making trades is to figure out who you want to trade FOR and then see if there’s a deal that makes sense. Too often around here it’s which Blazer someone wants to trade away.

 

[Rhal]

The thing is, Thompson doesn't just sit in the corner, waiting for the ball. He plays more like Reggie Miller, zooming around the court constantly, around screens, losing defenders. His constant motion creates disorder for defenses. McCollum could do that and be plenty active. And even then, he still wouldn't have to be a pure shooter--attacking close-outs, drawing help and finishing or kicking out is immensely valuable when the ball does come to him. I don't think McCollum needs the ball in his hands, in a ball-dominant fashion, to be successful.

I did not give Thompson enough credit in my post but I simply meant Thompson is fine without having the ball in his hands, thats not something I can see CJ being fine with.

 

[MARIS61]

Kiki Vandeweghe's best game as a Blazer was 42 pts in his first game.