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Vic, I seriously don't get this whole water thing. I mean why the hell do people pay for something that's FREE? They did a survey a few months back where they bottled regular tap water compared to store bought bottled water & asked people on the street which one tastes better. No bullshit but I believe 6 out of 10 people stopped (not knowing which one was which) said the tap water taste fresher.
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The parks charge like $4.50 for a bottle of water which is just absurd. I can go to Shoprite and buy a case of 24 for $2.99.
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...high ticket prices for concessions at a ball park?...shocker.
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I won't even touch this one....It would take a novel to state the disastrous water policies, and conditions out here in the Mojave Desert, ....and....Southern California.
Most of So.Cal's. water comes from the Northern part of the State, predominantly the snow pack off the High Sierra Nevada Mt's.
Water bills here have seen an increase of 280 percent in many areas. To a point now, water wells, (what WAS) free water, are now taxed obscenely. Arizona, Phoenix moreso, and Vegas, as well as all of So. Cal. have way to many frigging people. This area will consume all the water they can from the Pacific, to the Rockies, if one would let them.
Wars over the Colorado River shed, b/t AZ. & CA. & NV. Too many damn people, living in a non-water shed area. Growing exponentially beyond forecasts, or reason. The costs of water here is extreme, but then it should be in a fricking desert. No. Californian's traditionally despise So. Californian's for stealing "their water", for emptying the Owens Valley watershed, for destroying wildlife and habitate.
I'm not getting myself even started on this sore point. On top of a 3 year drought, what could one expect, in a Desert. Where everyone thinks still, a golden apple awaits them in this shit hole....I'm done......off my pulpit....floors yours.....!!
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They're to the point where they're beyond high. They're just downright ridiculous.
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On top of a 3 year drought. The entire South Western States were warned more than 30 years ago, to get reservoirs built to retain what little rain shed we do get. Nothing happened until approx. 7 years ago, and the very few tiny reservoirs they did finally build in So. Cal are a flipping fools joke, not enough to use to flush your toilet. Now this area is in more of a conundrum than they will ever admit.
No DE-salination efforts to speak of either. Yet now, who wants to drink from the Pacific, even if its DE-salinized? There's enough sewage, even radioactive waste from Fukijima, who the hell eats fish out the Pacific, do it with a Geiger counter.....I'm sick of Caly....yet, go down to Luzianna, where water shed is more than abundant, and you will find some of the most polluted undrinkable sewage water from what once were "blue bayous"...now septic systems...well close enough....(damn it I said I wasn't going to touch this one)....
Hopefully perhaps.....California will slide into the Ocean....how many of you remember the news story from the late 60s, (when it began, and has on occasion been a school topic, ie. CA. sliding into the Ocean, or L.A. becoming Frisco's neighbor?) We won't see it in our day, but if Earth's inhabitants don't destroy the Planet first; its damn near a certainty in 10s or 100s of thousands of years, one day yes, L.A. will be suburb of Frisco or vice versa....!!!
No DE-salination efforts to speak of either. Yet now, who wants to drink from the Pacific, even if its DE-salinized? There's enough sewage, even radioactive waste from Fukijima, who the hell eats fish out the Pacific, do it with a Geiger counter.....I'm sick of Caly....yet, go down to Luzianna, where water shed is more than abundant, and you will find some of the most polluted undrinkable sewage water from what once were "blue bayous"...now septic systems...well close enough....(damn it I said I wasn't going to touch this one)....
Hopefully perhaps.....California will slide into the Ocean....how many of you remember the news story from the late 60s, (when it began, and has on occasion been a school topic, ie. CA. sliding into the Ocean, or L.A. becoming Frisco's neighbor?) We won't see it in our day, but if Earth's inhabitants don't destroy the Planet first; its damn near a certainty in 10s or 100s of thousands of years, one day yes, L.A. will be suburb of Frisco or vice versa....!!!
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and "if California slides into the Ocean, like the mystics and statistics say it will, I predict this Hotel will be standing, until I pay my bill"
(Warren Zevon-1976) - ("Desperadoes Under the Eaves")
(Warren Zevon-1976) - ("Desperadoes Under the Eaves")
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Less most restaurants here, but all fast food joints, convenience markets, baseball stadiums, most, not all, will charge you full price for a cup of water with ice, as they would a soda or beer....not cool....$3.50 at Jacobs Field looks like a good deal from
this eagles nest out here.....!!
this eagles nest out here.....!!
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Badly needed, I expected to see them in place when I moved out here in 1970 as a teenager. Still only one exists that I know of, and its not making a dent in anything. Calif. Politics would rather spend taxpayer money to build a bullet train from Vegas to L.A. than ensure 30 million people have a future of water to drink.....
in the mean time....me.....
"all the salty margaritas in Los Angeles; I'm going to drink them up"
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ah shid, I did in fact get myself worked up....oh well...
where did I put that bottle of Geritol, or was it Valium, LMAO....
where did I put that bottle of Geritol, or was it Valium, LMAO....
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Water is free? Who the hell are you kidding. Heck gyms here want to raise monthly dues because people are using the gym to shower rather than at home.
They are shutting down San Onefre nuclear power plant when it could be converted to a desalinization plant running off the reactor shutdown process, but noooooooo, the ocean huggers are having a conniption. This state is fucked. Next best location I can get transferred to is the Seattle office. At least they recently legalized short barreled rifled and suppressors to go with the free pot and $15/hr minimum wage. Trading in the nanny state for the libertine state I guess.
They are shutting down San Onefre nuclear power plant when it could be converted to a desalinization plant running off the reactor shutdown process, but noooooooo, the ocean huggers are having a conniption. This state is fucked. Next best location I can get transferred to is the Seattle office. At least they recently legalized short barreled rifled and suppressors to go with the free pot and $15/hr minimum wage. Trading in the nanny state for the libertine state I guess.
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Everyday I fill 3 bottles of water from the sink, I stick it in the fridge & presto, cold bottled water just like that.
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The tap water at Yankee stadium in nasty... that's why we have to pay for water....
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You can't bring it in though....
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They don't let you do that...
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Tom- Shall I call you the Libertine or Johnny Depp...??? You carry penis-cillin right, you should of your going by the Libertine, you have to carry on the names tradition....(you did see the movie of the same title right)?
If you do go to Seattle, please take me along, I will even travel in your suitcase if you fly.... (My Mom's parents lived in Seattle-Kirkland, Renton, Everett, and Bremerton Island)....
BTW- I get my bottled water trucked in from San Onofre, you mean its still a Nuclear Reactor, and I'm drinking Hazardous Waste???? Damn, I've been wondering why my bedroom's been glowing at night....!
I've also grown a 3rd eye. Took a trip to Calcutta and Kushmar a year ago, everyone thought I was Khrishna in the flesh....NTM-my webbed feet....I can yep, walk on water....
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Turner Field wouldn't allow anything in the 1st 2 years of its new opening. After a BIG fan outcry over some of the costliest concessions I've still yet to see rival their %$#!^ Prices, they reversed their policies, to allow a Playskool Cooler in for each fan. As long as it fits under a seat.....Although it took more than Public Outcries, it took thousands of empty seats, from fans who literally turned in their seasons tickets, and others who yep, boycotted the games.
I've never seen enough fans pool their grievances together to change a Big Org. Policy....(the norm is the other fans *scabs*, who don't give a crap, about changing a bad policy; buy up those good seats (which were only available due to boycotting fans absence), while *scabs* won't back, the fans not going to the games, to make a loud statement).
Yet, the boycott, and constant phone calls to the Front Office,were heard loud and clear. The phones rang off the hook for 2 weeks. When that didn't work, Fans picketed the park....didn't last long either, that is, the old policy was quickly changed, before the scene could make the news, pretty much....
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Let's talk water now- I said I wasn't going to touch this subject, cuz its to close to home literally, and a subject that pisses me off. I'm glad this point was brought up tho', (I'm only pissed at the Dept. of Water and Power-DWP).
Locally here in the middle of the Mojave Desert, lays a huge, series of 6 each, 1 million gallon each, Waste Water Treatment Plants. Only 6 miles north of my house, on a day when the North Wind rarely blows, it smells like raw sewage, all day and night long. (Not often, the winds normally blow from the West).
A trailer Park sits half empty but one mile from the sewage plant. Why cuz the residents have all kinds of respiratory problems, and who wants every day of their lives to smell sewage, or frankly shit?
The treatment plant, grew expotentially 15 years ago, when it expanded its resevoirs from 2 to 6. This move was made to include treatment of L.A. sewage piped up here. (yes the desert always gets all of L.A.'s shit), (its gang bangers, moving into Section 8 Homes, riff rafts, trash, and sewage are out-sourced to this area from L.A. since it is Northern L.A. county, they can do that). but not without public outcry, in this case, public outcry, even lawsuits against L.A.County and the DWP have done no good.
why the DWP is involved. Because the treated sewage water, is then pumped to Farmers to irrigate. 30 years ago, this desert area, used to be 60 percent rural alfalfa, onion, and barley farms. Now what were millions of Farm land acres, are now empty desert abandoned lots miles long. Only tumbleweeds grow where once crops thrived (with irrigation)....
When the County decried: all Farmers would have to use re-claimed water for their crops, in lieu of Sierra snow pack Aquaducts, (and while water tables dropped from 300 feet, to 900 feet, limits were placed on Irrigation Water Wells). So Farmers were screwed either way, no fresh water, only re-cycled sewage water for their crops.
Aneheuser Busch used to be the largest rural crop Farmer in this area. In Calif. only, and here in the Antelope Valley, 70 percent of all Barley grown for Budweiser, Michelob et al. came from Barley grown once using Aquafiers. When the State and County decried, Farmers mandatorily would be given reclaimed sewage water, for their crops. Aneheuser Busch said screw you, we can't ensure the contaminants will not decline the quality of our brew...so they pulled out, and with them went a ton of tax money, as well as jobs too....
so yep, Budweiser tastes like piss water, because it is...or would of been brewed with re-cycled piss, and/or fertilizers of other sorts.....(I know I said Bud moved out before they had to use the waste water, but hell it still tastes like piss)....!
Locally here in the middle of the Mojave Desert, lays a huge, series of 6 each, 1 million gallon each, Waste Water Treatment Plants. Only 6 miles north of my house, on a day when the North Wind rarely blows, it smells like raw sewage, all day and night long. (Not often, the winds normally blow from the West).
A trailer Park sits half empty but one mile from the sewage plant. Why cuz the residents have all kinds of respiratory problems, and who wants every day of their lives to smell sewage, or frankly shit?
The treatment plant, grew expotentially 15 years ago, when it expanded its resevoirs from 2 to 6. This move was made to include treatment of L.A. sewage piped up here. (yes the desert always gets all of L.A.'s shit), (its gang bangers, moving into Section 8 Homes, riff rafts, trash, and sewage are out-sourced to this area from L.A. since it is Northern L.A. county, they can do that). but not without public outcry, in this case, public outcry, even lawsuits against L.A.County and the DWP have done no good.
why the DWP is involved. Because the treated sewage water, is then pumped to Farmers to irrigate. 30 years ago, this desert area, used to be 60 percent rural alfalfa, onion, and barley farms. Now what were millions of Farm land acres, are now empty desert abandoned lots miles long. Only tumbleweeds grow where once crops thrived (with irrigation)....
When the County decried: all Farmers would have to use re-claimed water for their crops, in lieu of Sierra snow pack Aquaducts, (and while water tables dropped from 300 feet, to 900 feet, limits were placed on Irrigation Water Wells). So Farmers were screwed either way, no fresh water, only re-cycled sewage water for their crops.
Aneheuser Busch used to be the largest rural crop Farmer in this area. In Calif. only, and here in the Antelope Valley, 70 percent of all Barley grown for Budweiser, Michelob et al. came from Barley grown once using Aquafiers. When the State and County decried, Farmers mandatorily would be given reclaimed sewage water, for their crops. Aneheuser Busch said screw you, we can't ensure the contaminants will not decline the quality of our brew...so they pulled out, and with them went a ton of tax money, as well as jobs too....
so yep, Budweiser tastes like piss water, because it is...or would of been brewed with re-cycled piss, and/or fertilizers of other sorts.....(I know I said Bud moved out before they had to use the waste water, but hell it still tastes like piss)....!
