I Know I've Been Relatively Cynical Regarding Oden, But..

[ABM]

....something seems to be very wrong here. Why isn't the organization relating anything? Where are the Quick or Canzano reports? Something.

I really do wish Greg well. It's just very, very frustrating to see him miss game after game with nary a word..................from anyone.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

The easiest $10.3 million ever made. The past two seasons it's been the same story with Greg.

 

[MAS RipCity]

Yes, I hate how the organization is leading us blindfolded through a fun house, just fucking let us know what's going on. Obviously he's not day to day because he's missed 2.5 weeks. was he really cleared by a doctor to play or what? Now he's out for a while..WTF?!?!?!

 

[Nikolokolus]

It's sort of funny, I feel like I've developed a gigantic Oden blind-spot, like I only notice he's not in the lineup if I turn my head real quickly and catch him out of the corner of my eye, sitting on the bench in a suit.

As for what's really going on? I don't know and I don't really care ... or at least I'm treating him sort of like the Loch Ness monster; there have been reports and sightings, but no concrete evidence of his existence and I'm not about to start camping out by the lake hoping to catch a glimpse.

 

[Shooter]

I don't count on Oden for anything, anymore. I don't expect him to score, or rebound, or block shots, or to even play on a nightly basis. He's sort of dead to me, if you want to know the truth. I'm tired of his constant injuries, and his inconsistent play, and his disappointing effort. If he turns into something some day, good. But right now . . . meh.

 

[HailBlazers]

The easiest $10.3 million ever made. The past two seasons it's been the same story with Greg.

Does the name Darius Miles mean any thing to you? You wanna talk about easy money.

Greg has a lot of pressure on him I would hardly call it easy to rehabilitate yourself from MF surgery and try to become the savior to an NBA team when you barely honed any skills in college...

 

[PapaG]

Does the name Darius Miles mean any thing to you? You wanna talk about easy money.
Greg has a lot of pressure on him I would hardly call it easy to rehabilitate yourself from MF surgery and try to become the savior to an NBA team when you barely honed any skills in college...

Darius will likely need a knee replacement if he continues to play at any consistent level. Or are you saying that Oden should be examined by independent doctors at this point as a precaution against permanent injury?

Oden is an afterthought at this point of the season.

 

[PapaG]

Does the name Darius Miles mean any thing to you? You wanna talk about easy money.

Greg has a lot of pressure on him I would hardly call it easy to rehabilitate yourself from MF surgery and try to become the savior to an NBA team when you barely honed any skills in college...

You and a few others are the people putting the "savior" tag on him, not anyone else. Hell, people here want Nate fired because he won't run the offense through a guy who has one move and can't stay on the court.

 

[maxiep]

Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be a Blazer fan.

 

[PapaG]

Sometimes, I'm embarrassed to be a Blazer fan.

Yes, you've said this more than once. Please elaborate and stop being evasive.

 

[maxiep]

Yes, you've said this more than once. Please elaborate.

Your fucking bitching and moaning about a guy who has had a number of setbacks and hasn't really gotten his career started. He hasn't even played himself into NBA shape and he leads all rookies in double doubles.

Loose material acts differently in different joints in different people. Sometimes it's absorbed by the body, other times it floats harmlessly and other times it causes irritation.

I'm a Blazer fan. I'm sticking by GO. And fuck the lot of you that toss him overboard by trying to read tea leaves. None of us has any idea what's going on with his knee or what's going on in his head.

 

[maxiep]

Yes, you've said this more than once. Please elaborate and stop being evasive.

Since you added the "stop being evasive" part while I was making my last post, I'll elaborate further. I'm not being evasive. I think there are some in here that are pretty shitty fans and are bitching because a player isn't playing up to the expectations you've set for him in your mind. Is that clear enough?

 

[PapaG]

Your fucking bitching and moaning about a guy who has had a number of setbacks and hasn't really gotten his career started. He hasn't even played himself into NBA shape and he leads all rookies in double doubles.

Loose material acts differently in different joints in different people. Sometimes it's absorbed by the body, other times it floats harmlessly and other times it causes irritation.

I'm a Blazer fan. I'm sticking by GO. And fuck the lot of you that toss him overboard by trying to read tea leaves. None of us has any idea what's going on with his knee or what's going on in his head.

Who has tossed him overboard? I've consistently said that the team is much better with him on the court. The fact is, most of the time he isn't on the court.

Thanks for at least profanely getting this off of your chest, though. You attributed things to me that I haven't said, but that's your style, and I get it.

Now continue your nonstop criticism of Outlaw.

 

[PapaG]

Since you added the "stop being evasive" part while I was making my last post, I'll elaborate further. I'm not being evasive. I think there are some in here that are pretty shitty fans and are bitching because a player isn't playing up to the expectations you've set for him in your mind. Is that clear enough?

I didn't add crap, and there is no "edit" time stamp from me, you liar.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Your fucking bitching and moaning about a guy who has had a number of setbacks and hasn't really gotten his career started. He hasn't even played himself into NBA shape and he leads all rookies in double doubles.

Loose material acts differently in different joints in different people. Sometimes it's absorbed by the body, other times it floats harmlessly and other times it causes irritation.

I'm a Blazer fan. I'm sticking by GO. And fuck the lot of you that toss him overboard by trying to read tea leaves. None of us has any idea what's going on with his knee or what's going on in his head.

+1

And I would add that if you feel like the organization is, or is not, doing an adequate job of informing us of Greg's injury, it's not Greg's fault either way. It seems to me like many are lumping all their negative emotions onto Greg himself.

 

[PapaG]

+1

And I would add that if you feel like the organization is, or is not, doing an adequate job of informing us of Greg's injury, it's not Greg's fault either way. It seems to me like many are lumping all their negative emotions onto Greg himself.

Yes, it's everybody's fault but Oden's. It's all a conspiracy against him.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Yes, it's everybody's fault but Oden's. It's all a conspiracy against him.

Read the thread - there are multiple remarks regarding disappointment from a lack of info from the organization, as well as reporters. All I'm saying is that isn't Greg's fault. Thanks for putting words into my mouth though.

 

[Nate4Prez]

I didn't add crap, and there is no "edit" time stamp from me, you liar.

Actually, you can edit your post without there being a time stamp. You just have to do it in a certain time. I added a sentence to this post without there being a stamp put on it. not that this is related to any basketball discussion.

 

[maxiep]

I didn't add crap, and there is no "edit" time stamp from me, you liar.

Then explain how two consecutive posts where I quoted you are different? I didn't change them. And if you go back and rewrite within a certain period of time, no edit notation shows up. But you feel free to call me anything you wish.

 

[PapaG]

Read the thread - there are multiple remarks regarding disappointment from a lack of info from the organization, as well as reporters. All I'm saying is that isn't Greg's fault. Thanks for putting words into my mouth though.

I didn't put words into your mouth.

 

[maxiep]

Who has tossed him overboard? I've consistently said that the team is much better with him on the court. The fact is, most of the time he isn't on the court.

Thanks for at least profanely getting this off of your chest, though. You attributed things to me that I haven't said, but that's your style, and I get it.

Now continue your nonstop criticism of Outlaw.

I'm just quite impressed with your ability to analyze his knee injury without having examined him.

As for my criticism of TO, I think he's a fine player, he just doesn't fit our team.

 

[PapaG]

Then explain how two consecutive posts where I quoted you are different? I didn't change them. And if you go back and rewrite within a certain period of time, no edit notation shows up. But you feel free to call me anything you wish.

I PM'd you, and you don't respond. I feel that your response and vulgarities toward me are unwarranted. Where have I ever said that GO isn't a part of this team's future?

 

[PapaG]

I'm just quite impressed with your ability to analyze his knee injury without having examined him.

As for my criticism of TO, I think he's a fine player, he just doesn't fit our team.

I didn't analyze anthing. The doctors did, and they cleared Oden to play.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

I didn't put words into your mouth.

Then please explain how we agree on a statement (that "It's everyone's fault but Oden's") that would be impossible for any rationale person to believe that I made during this thread. Seriously - please explain.

 

[maxiep]

I PM'd you, and you don't respond. I feel that your response and vulgarities toward me are unwarranted. Where have I ever said that GO isn't a part of this team's future?

I responded in a post rather than via PM as I don't wish to write the same thing twice. And all I'm accusing you of is being a shitty fan. It's my opinion; feel free to disagree.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I didn't analyze anthing. The doctors did, and they cleared Oden to play.

To be fair, just because a doctor says a person isn't likely to do any further damage to an injured body part doesn't mean Greg has the mobility to be effective in an NBA basketball game.

 

[maxiep]

I didn't analyze anthing. The doctors did, and they cleared Oden to play.

The last I heard, doctors don't coach the team, Nate does. And Nate said he looked like crap on Friday and he wasn't going to play him until he was ready.

 

[PapaG]

I responded in a post rather than via PM as I don't wish to write the same thing twice. And all I'm accusing you of is being a shitty fan. It's my opinion; feel free to disagree.

So pointing out this makes me a "s****y" fan, but your bashing of Outlaw makes you a good fan.

You're a coward.

 

[maxiep]

So pointing out this makes me a "s****y" fan, but your bashing of Outlaw makes you a good fan.

You're a coward.

Like I said, my "bashing" of TO is that he's a good player, but he just doesn't fit this team. I think he's not a high BBIQ player, and I have six years of evidence to back it up. He still barely knows the fundamentals of team defense and makes Zach Randolph look like John Stockton. Unfortunately for TO, we're developing a team of players with high BBIQ who pass and find the open man.

As for me being a coward, I cherish your opinion.

 

[PapaG]

Then please explain how we agree on a statement (that "It's everyone's fault but Oden's") that would be impossible for any rationale person to believe that I made during this thread. Seriously - please explain.

Somebody insinuated that the team had been less than upfront about this injury, yet the only quote I've seen is from Oden saying that he is setting his own return date.

This is my starting point. I'm sorry if I am wrong about your take because I have at least three discussions going on at one time.